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Reedy Creek Improvement District long-term land use meeting 2023
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Based on the planning docs, it looks like they consider either Disney Springs or WWOS a minor park. The current number of minor parks is 3.
I updated my post to note that it looks like the 2020 plan was adopted as the 2032 plan in the May 25, 2022 meeting (see agenda item 6I). So I think this is incremental to that.
UNCgolf
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I'd guess WWOS -- back in the 90s/early 2000s they advertised (or at least pushed it to guests) as something to go do and it had sports-related activities like attempting to kick field goals from different distances (no idea if it still offers this but they certainly don't suggest it's something for regular guests to visit any more). I think the Disney bus system even went there regularly, although I'm not positive about that.
ToTBellHop
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Correct on the buses. They had BoardWalk buses back then, too!
danlb_2000
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This is not a proposal for new parks or anything else. This type of resource planning would be needed whether RCID exists or not.
JohnD
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True but as already mentioned the timing of the "resource planning" is interesting.
danlb_2000
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Not really. The original plan was good up to 2020 and it gets updated every 10 years, so the 2030 plan should have already been out, but clearly got delayed. No matter what happens to RCID, Disney need this sort of planning.
I got clarification just now that this was to get approval to bring the land use regulations in line with the 2032 plan.
I'm following up with: "So were the land use regulations not already in line with the 2032 plan, which has been around since 2010?" Because there are two options:
- They were not in line for the last 12 years. In which case, what's driving the need to do it now?
- They were in line, in which case this is clearly new authority for more stuff.
It looks like they adopted the 2020 plan as the 2032 plan, in May of 2022.
I was told by someone in the room when WWoS was being built that "it was intended to be, and green lit by Michael [Eisner] to be, the 5th gate". Never quite fulfilled its promises though, particularly since it never had year-round professional events or teams.
EPCOT-O.G.
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danlb_2000
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Which means they took the easy way out and didn't alter the plan at all and just renewed it for 10 more years.
You were getting at leverage before and that seems most likely. If there's any possibility that RCID governance changes then it makes sense make your layups now before the state government postures it will make you take full court length shots or force concessions. While Disney controls everything it should be reducing *any* future leverage the state may identify. Getting a plan in line reduces ambiguity risks and conflict risks (if unaligned) and leaving things like intent up to a third party like a court or arbitrator. This may be similar to contract law concept of "contra proferentum" where in conflicts where one side drew up the documents and there's an ambiguoty then it may go against the drafter, which is essentially Disney. It's be very state law specific. I have no idea if this would mean anything in Florida specifically but the idea that Disney controls everything through RCID and idea that that control may be weakened should be enough to motivate the Board to quickly tie any loose ends.
And acknowledging that I could be barking up the wrong tree.
It's since been updated at least with a link to Len's site.
danlb_2000
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According to the document, this is required by Florida law...
"The Plan is formulated to meet requirements of the Florida Local Government Comprehensive Planning and Development Regulation Act, found in Section 163 of Florida statutes and their administrative regulations. When it is adopted by the District and approved by the state, it will supersede the prior plan adopted in 1999."
But with that said, I don't believe there is anything legally binding in the plan. It is basically a set of guidelines for development.
I think you’re right.
The land use regs were not, for whatever reason, updated over the last dozen years. And they decided that they should do it now, with this Board of Supervisors.
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denyuntilcaught
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I find this really interesting. Does anyone know more about this?
UNCgolf
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I don't know anything about that, but it absolutely had a collection of activities in the early years that goes along with the idea it was intended to be an actual destination for resort guests instead of simply a collection of sports venues.
If they'd built the NBA Experience in the late 90s, I think they'd have put it at WWoS.