News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[castlecake2.0]

RCID is run by former Disney employees who “buy” a plot of land at the start of their terms and “sell” that same plot back to Disney at the end of their terms.

Like any good manager, they will make sure the their part of the company is run well and makes legal & ethical decisions.

But don’t for a minute believe that the RCID board would ever, for example, reject yet another DVC expansion.

Disney selects board members and choses those with demonstrated employment records of taking care of corporate Disney.

That’s not exactly how it works

 

[Chip Chipperson]

No, I'm simply saying don't act like this is some new threat. Corruption or lack of impartiality is not some new threat - even here in the US.





Paid any attention to the NFL owners hubbub over the last few years? Baseball anti-trust threats. Heck, POTUS from 2017-2020 constantly having to have people tell him "no sir, you can't do that...". I mean, pick your region and you can go back and find the game of chicken between government and business. The most common topic is like this one... incentives. Because they are things you don't HAVE to do, but do to influence behavior.

Or look at the very basics of people that support (or not) candidates.



Never said it was how things SHOULD be - just don't try to rally around some new made up boogieman. That dude has been here since before 'impartial' was a the cool thing to be.

The trick is to not accept corruption as normal -- but don't try to pretend it's something new that needs new effort to stop. You can't eliminate the thoughts people have - true impartiality is only an ideal - human's can't fully achieve it. The key is making sure such behavior is not tolerated and those that abuse will face consequences.

They will talk about it.. they can feel it... but they shouldn't act on it. Problem is now, not just do some people act on it, but the real problem is people closing their eyes to what it is.

Seperate to that whole motivation thing is simply the topic of 'are they allowed to do it'. And that's what I've said before... you can blend your motivations in with other things that can be justified and get away with it. Knowing that and working to counter the justifications... vs just having emotional outbursts of 'how wrong something it' is the difference between saviors and whiners.

Well as far as baseball goes, the threats to rescind the anti-trust exemptions didn't come about because MLB's Commissioner or the owner of a team criticized a bill that passed. It was because of things like turning a blind eye to steroid use, for example. It's one thing when a politician threatens to revoke a special privilege because the recipient of that privilege isn't acting in the interest of the public (like profiting from the attention generated by juiced up players breaking home run records left and right, for example). It's another thing entirely for the government to say, "Since you disagreed with me publicly, you must be punished."

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I would be really surprised if Disney didn't have a playbook already written for this eventuality. This is one of those threats on the horizon that shouldn't catch you off guard.

I 100% agree and 100% disagree at the same time.

I don’t think they ever for a second considered - at least not for 40 years - that they would be the target of a WWE style “heel turn” on this kinda accelerated rate…

Because intelligent adults never would or should have thought to think that.

 

[peter11435]

RCID is run by former Disney employees who “buy” a plot of land at the start of their terms and “sell” that same plot back to Disney at the end of their terms.

Like any good manager, they will make sure the their part of the company is run well and makes legal & ethical decisions.

But don’t for a minute believe that the RCID board would ever, for example, reject yet another DVC expansion.

Disney selects board members and choses those with demonstrated employment records of taking care of corporate Disney.

The residents don’t buy the plots of land their mobile homes on. Disney retains ownership of the land.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I was born and raised in SoCal and spent 45 years there before moving to Central Florida. Make no mistake, a majority of Californians think Floridians (and most southerners) are backwards bumpkins. They have absolutely no respect for you and think of you as low class - poor relations. The mere fact that a California based company (which Disney is) feels that they have the right and power to tell another state what to do, should be proof enough. Imagine if the tables were turned and it Florida demanding that California change one of their liberal state laws. The laughter would be deafening. The fact that Florida is merely trying to protect itself from a California ideology attack is not an act of bigotry or racism, it’s an act of states rights and states values. One state (no matter how large it is) should be able to come into another state and impose their will. Those are basic founding father ideals.

What does California have to do with this particular issue between Florida and Disney? Disney is not a representative of California. What are you talking about?

 

[JohnD]

Live stream of Special District bill found here: https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/VideoPlayer.aspx?eventID=8085

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The residents don’t buy the plots of land their mobile homes on. Disney retains ownership of the land.

If I remember correctly…the votes are done by proxy as well? It’s been awhile…

 

[Goofyernmost]

Something tells me a vast majority of military veterans in FL support Florida House Bill 1557 as well as DeSantis.

I am a military veteran and I fought for the right of freedom for all. It wasn't for straight or gay or anywhere in between. It astonishes me that the very people that got their panties in a knot because they insisted on the freedom to NOT use a mask or get vaccinated, are now willing to let some butt head politician tell them that they no longer have the freedom to use words the wanna be dictator doesn't like. There is no end to that stupidity. When you face death you really don't find these menial concerns have any bearing on life. Way to many GOP milksop weaklings that are massively afraid of words or people that don't agree with them, to be for the good of anyone. If every LGBQA identified person left the state of Florida there wouldn't be enough left of the state to bother saving.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What does California have to do with this particular issue between Florida and Disney?

Nothing…

That’s straight from the business end of a bat.

The suggestion that California is somehow “persecuting Florida” is devoid of any sense of reality. It’s much more the case a vindictive Napoleon grudge the other way.

Someone is trapped in their talking picture panel or computer…I’m thinking

 

[flynnibus]

It's one thing when a politician threatens to revoke a special privilege because the recipient of that privilege isn't acting in the interest of the public (like profiting from the attention generated by juiced up players breaking home run records left and right, for example). It's another thing entirely for the government to say, "Since you disagreed with me publicly, you must be punished."

Disagreements over the national anthem, protests at private events, or the sanctity of legacy records are issues concerning "acting in the interest of the public"?? *rolleyes*

The issue is the same. The cause is just flavor of the week.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I am a military veteran and I fought for the right of freedom for all. It wasn't for straight or gay or anywhere in between. It astonishes me that the very people that got their panties in a knot because they insisted on the freedom to NOT use a mask or get vaccinated, are now willing to let some butt head politician tell them that they no longer have the freedom to use words the wanna be dictator doesn't like. There is no end to that stupidity. When you face death you really don't find these menial concerns have any bearing on life. Way to many GOP milksop weaklings that are massively afraid of words or people that don't agree with them, to be for the good of anyone. If every LGBQA identified person left the state of Florida there wouldn't be enough left of the state to bother saving.

…and there is the winning TD at the buzzer

 

[Jlasoon]

??? I'm providing factual information on the Special Session, what it is, and where to find it. You would rather be ignorant? Your choice.

Ignore him. Social Media has created too many emotional kids with a serious lack of critical thinking skills. Every political topic is now life or death. Lol

This whole Disney conundrum was obvious from the start. It's also obvious what's about to happen. Unfortunately too many refuse to acknowledge the obvious.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Something tells me that they should remember their oath is to the constitution, and not to the governor, who has signed into law a piece of legislation that is so vague as to be unconstitutional per the fifth and fourteenth amendment, and whose sole purpose is to restrict speech, a violation of the first amendment.

That ship has sailed. We are no longer a functioning democracy ruled by a constitution. We are now at the mercy of a political ideology not seen since the early 1930's.

 

[mkt]

That ship has sailed. We are no longer a functioning democracy ruled by a constitution. We are now at the mercy of a political ideology not seen since the early 1930's.

Well aware.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Disagreements over the national anthem, protests at private events, or the sanctity of legacy records are issues concerning "acting in the interest of the public"?? *rolleyes*

The issue is the same. The cause is just flavor of the week.

Profiting off steroid use…which is a highly dangerous and often lethal activity of the influenced youth that watched the games…was the issue.

Don’t let your eyes go crossed rolling them.

 

[Jlasoon]

I'm confused. When did the previous business model of "shut up and take peoples money" stop working?

'Republicans buy sneakers too' - Jordan

 

[mkt]

'Republicans buy sneakers too' - Jordan

New Balance.

 

[Ghost93]

I really hope the Reedy Creek district doesn't get removed. For numerous reasons. One, it will likely lead to inferior experiences at the Florida Parks as it will take Disney longer to get projects approved and it will cost Disney more money.

But I also think it's disturbing that Florida is punishing Disney for speaking its mind about a piece of legislation that could have a detrimental impact to its many LGBTQ employees. The very intent of removing the district isn't to benefit Florida residents, it's a malicious act of revenge by DeSantis.

 

[Brian]

I really hope the Reedy Creek district doesn't get removed. For numerous reasons. One, it will likely lead to inferior experiences at the Florida Parks as it will take Disney longer to get projects approved and it will cost Disney more money.

Disneyland enjoys no such privileges and, I'd argue, offers a better experience.

Disney doesn't need self-governance to operate. It was a sweetheart deal right from the start, and it merits scrutiny no matter the pretext.

 

[TP2000]

And again, I'm still baffled at how only Disney stepped in this mess.

All the other big players in the Florida tourism market are untouched by this ongoing PR disaster; Universal Studios, Sea World, Legoland, Hilton, Marriott, Delta Airlines, Darden Restaurants...

But not Disney, not Bob Chapek.

And now Reedy Creek is up for dissolution because of that?

I don't think any American corporation in the 21st century should have self-governance rights. But if a corporation does enjoy self-governance grandfathered in from the 1960's, they should probably want to stick to exactly that and not be stupid enough to inject themselves into shifting political spheres.