News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

BuzzedPotatoHead89

Well-Known Member
If this was going to lead to this type of capitulation to begin with they would have been better off just staying silent like Morell/Chapek wanted since now the lesson from Tallahassee will be that Disney will submit to the state’s demands.

The WDC’s problem has consistently been their refusal to take a firm stand one way or another that they continue to simultaneously do damage to their brand and employee morale and their political relationships in FL. By “threading the needle” they keep getting the worst of both worlds and I don’t expect this to be any different.

This new board will continue to be a thorn in TDO’s side holding up necessary projects in exchange for more humiliating public statements and capitulations from WDC leadership.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Or a potential lawsuit will be filed by the residents of Reedy Creek or by the bondholders and not directly by Disney.

This has been my line all along.. Disney fighting the 1a argument or new florida constitutional challenges are really plans c, d, etc. I think those directly associated with RCID are more likely the first salvos to be fired.

Tho the statement by the DIS spokesman is disappointing.
 

Dranth

Well-Known Member
If this was going to lead to this type of capitulation to begin with they would have been better off just staying silent like Morell/Chapek wanted since now the lesson from Tallahassee will be that Disney will submit to the state’s demands.

The WDC’s problem has consistently been their refusal to take a firm stand one way or another that they continue to simultaneously do damage to their brand and employee morale and their political relationships in FL. By “threading the needle” they keep getting the worst of both worlds and I don’t expect this to be any different.

This new board will continue to be a thorn in TDO’s side holding up necessary projects in exchange for more humiliating public statements and capitulations from WDC leadership.
Agreed. You don't cave to a bully. I am personally disappointed in Disney on this one and hope there is something else that is going on that we are all missing. However, at the end of the day they have all the information we don't. It's their company and their decision.
 

JoeCamel

Well-Known Member
So how about if corporate WDW is taking the high road but they find a strawman to file suit? They can claim the high ground and say they are working with the new framework and their thoughts and prayers are with the state in their fight.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
You seem to constantly be under the impression that anything said that doesn’t immediately align with your opinions is an attack. You did this to me a few days ago.

I’m merely stating facts. Disney apparently has decided not to pursue this further. Disney is in charge, not you. Disney has more information at their disposal to make an informed decision on how to proceed, not you. Maybe RCID wasn’t worth the effort anymore, maybe they got some sort of deal. I don’t know why they did what they did and you don’t either.

If you ask me if they have a moral obligation to fight this. I would agree, as I’ve said many many times it is a first amendment violation. Yet somehow you seek to argue with me when I say this even though we agree that the government was bad.
What attack? Calling out completely baseless, unsupported, contradictory speculation is not an attack.
 

el_super

Well-Known Member
I’ll acknowledge in 5-10 years time this probably will be moot. Optically though do you think this a good look for TWDC?

Dropping out of the fight now or the general politicking? As a resident, I'm not a big fan of their actions in Anaheim at all. They've ultimately done more harm in Anaheim than good and we're just waiting to find out how deep their involvement goes with the current FBI investigation.

That said I think the implementation of RCID has always been sort of a weird gross capitalist perversion.

So ultimately I think Disney's being pretty smart by bailing on a long protracted fight. It's not a good look to be the giant mega-corporation appealing to the courts to maintain their status-quo. Ultimately I don't think this is going to impact them all that much either. They've already committed to spending more money to influence Florida politics (to appease the CMs that live there) and other than potentially running into some bad apples in Anaheim, they've been pretty good at it.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I'm not being facetious. Just genuinely curious. DeSantis (or some other Republican) issued a statement along the lines of, "We're violating Disney's First Amendment rights?"

As I've previously written, Supreme Court rulings make our Freedom of Speech rights much more complicated than we realize.
Those involved have publicly stated it is in retaliation. It was was during the last special session. Some have said they’d reconsider if Disney changed their content and management decisions. We’re apparently not allowed to share these statements here. The governor’s speech at CPAC is also relevant and enlightening.
 

Notypeo

Member
They didn't need "leverage." They have multiple grounds and avenues to have this overturned
I agree there’s a lot more that they could have done and could be doing. But I suspect the thinking was “we can’t wrangle the votes to stop this, so let’s try to work out the best deal we can from a financial perspective,” and then hope for the best. To say the least, I’m skeptical it works out.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I agree there’s a lot more that they could have done and could be doing. But I suspect the thinking was “we can’t wrangle the votes to stop this, so let’s try to work out the best deal we can from a financial perspective,” and then hope for the best. To say the least, I’m skeptical it works out.
They didn’t need to change votes. The state being able to just change a locally elected government into an appointed one goes against several aspects of the state constitution. Any city or even county that goes against the state can now have its charter amended or be consumed by a special district to remove elected officials from local decision making.
 

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