News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

JohnD

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What I'm reading from these comments is, even if the supervisor is a paid employee and not an appointed member of the board, to avoid the appearance of impropriety, he should resign from his position.
 

pdude81

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Guess it's good I'm still registered in another county.

I remember a new supervisor decided to completely redo everything. That first election was chaos when polling places didn't open on time and machines broke down.
This is a point I hadn't really considered. If there is chaos in Orange county, that could affect statewide and national elections even if it doesn't move the needle much locally.

As for the deposition, I assumed he'd still have to do it but I'm struggling to understand why Gilzean himself would take this appointment to a lower paying, temporary position.
 

LAKid53

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What I'm reading from these comments is, even if the supervisor is a paid employee and not an appointed member of the board, to avoid the appearance of impropriety, he should resign from his position.

The section of Florida Statutes I cited specifically addresses a public officer, which the supervisor is, either working for or doing business (contracting) with a special taxing district like CFTOD. While not prohibited per se, any conduct of said officer that "frustrates the intent" of that section is deemed a conflict and prohibited.
 

LAKid53

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This is a point I hadn't really considered. If there is chaos in Orange county, that could affect statewide and national elections even if it doesn't move the needle much locally.

As for the deposition, I assumed he'd still have to do it but I'm struggling to understand why Gilzean himself would take this appointment to a lower paying, temporary position.

It's a more powerful position than county administrator for a special district.
 

mmascari

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This is really confusing to me. This would have to be less pay than he was getting from CFTOD, and it shouldn't influence the outcome of any elections.
There are millions of ways to influence the outcome of an election unrelated to the literal counting of votes. The person in charge of running the election can definitely impact the result with how it's run. The easiest way is by impacting how easy or hard it is to vote.

What I'm reading from these comments is, even if the supervisor is a paid employee and not an appointed member of the board, to avoid the appearance of impropriety, he should resign from his position.
He should resign or be fired because he's working a second job and will not be able to work both jobs. One presumes the CFTOD Administrator job is a roughly 9-5 job 5 days a week, and that the election supervisor job is also 9-5 and 5 days a week. Both are certainly 40 hour work week jobs, even if you flex the working hours.

My math says there's 168 hours in a week. If you sleep for 35 and eat for 14, that leaves 119. You could technically work 80 of those, leaving 39 left over for everything else. Is that what anyone is expecting here?

If the Election Supervisor is phoning it in and not getting things done, I would expect that to be a local scandal. If the CFTOD Administrator is phoning it in and not getting things done, the CFTOD board should fire them.

All of that is independent of any conflict of interest requirements either job may have. They don't really sound like two jobs a person could hold at the same time.
 

LAKid53

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There are millions of ways to influence the outcome of an election unrelated to the literal counting of votes. The person in charge of running the election can definitely impact the result with how it's run. The easiest way is by impacting how easy or hard it is to vote.


He should resign or be fired because he's working a second job and will not be able to work both jobs. One presumes the CFTOD Administrator job is a roughly 9-5 job 5 days a week, and that the election supervisor job is also 9-5 and 5 days a week. Both are certainly 40 hour work week jobs, even if you flex the working hours.

My math says there's 168 hours in a week. If you sleep for 35 and eat for 14, that leaves 119. You could technically work 80 of those, leaving 39 left over for everything else. Is that what anyone is expecting here?

If the Election Supervisor is phoning it in and not getting things done, I would expect that to be a local scandal. If the CFTOD Administrator is phoning it in and not getting things done, the CFTOD board should fire them.

All of that is independent of any conflict of interest requirements either job may have. They don't really sound like two jobs a person could hold at the same time.

The supervisor of elections job is more than 9 to 5, 5 days a week, trust me.
 

LAKid53

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Glen Gilzean tells the Orlando Sentinel he's awaiting "direction" from the CFTOD on his future at the district.



Article at the link below.


I find it interesting that the former chair of the Commission on Ethics is "awaiting direction" from the CFTOD Board. Most would resign, rather than hedge their bets, to demonstrate a commitment to the new important role and avoid ANY appearance of a conflict. At the very least, publicly announce an UNPAID leave of absence.

But then he failed to comprehend, as Chair of the Commission, he couldn't serve in that role while also serving as administrator for CFTOD.
 

LAKid53

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Clearing the rosters of those *assumed* to be ineligible to vote can be a high priority in some districts...

That probably the most important aspect of the supervisor's function...maintaining the database of registered voters for the county.
 

LAKid53

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Gilzean stays mum as he starts Orange elections chief job

This guy is leaving one public, taxpayer-funded office for another public, taxpayer-funded office and he can't even be bothered to give a simple "yes" or "no" answer the most basic of questions.

Unfortunately, that's not uncommon.

However, the governor's appointment & legal staff should be explaining any potential conflicts to a prospective candidate for appointment to an important position, even if temporary.
 

Teleostei35

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I don't know the answer to that. His appointment as Supervisor of Elections lasts until the person who is elected during the November election takes office in January 2025.

Edited to add - here's Glen Gilzean's announcement on Facebook.

"During this transition, rest assured that my commitment remains unwavering. I'll be working closely with the Board of Supervisors to ensure a seamless shift while upholding our standards of excellence. I trust in Paula J. Hoisington's leadership as Acting District Administrator during my unavailability."


I don't know the answer to that. His appointment as Supervisor of Elections lasts until the person who is elected during the November election takes office in January 2025.

Edited to add - here's Glen Gilzean's announcement on Facebook.

"During this transition, rest assured that my commitment remains unwavering. I'll be working closely with the Board of Supervisors to ensure a seamless shift while upholding our standards of excellence. I trust in Paula J. Hoisington's leadership as Acting District Administrator during my unavailability."


Just when things were settling down, the roller coaster is going back up another hill. Hang in there District employees, the ride is going to be fun in the end.
 

LAKid53

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In an article in today's Orlando Sentinel, Gilzean said he plans on continuing both jobs during the transition. He said that elections office attorney Nick Shannin advised that the statute against dual-office holding doesn't apply to him and that he would be able to temporarily "continue to serve in both capacities within the confines of the law.”
 

Figgy1

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In an article in today's Orlando Sentinel, Gilzean said he plans on continuing both jobs during the transition. He said that elections office attorney Nick Shannin advised that the statute against dual-office holding doesn't apply to him and that he would be able to temporarily "continue to serve in both capacities within the confines of the law.”
Who appointed Shanin? or is it an elected posistion?
 

mkt

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In an article in today's Orlando Sentinel, Gilzean said he plans on continuing both jobs during the transition. He said that elections office attorney Nick Shannin advised that the statute against dual-office holding doesn't apply to him and that he would be able to temporarily "continue to serve in both capacities within the confines of the law.”

Who appointed Shanin? or is it an elected posistion?

Something smells like 💩.

The only Nick Shannin licensed to practice law in Florida has a private practice, and isn't in the elections office (unless as a volunteer?)



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LAKid53

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Something smells like 💩.

The only Nick Shannin licensed to practice law in Florida has a private practice, and isn't in the elections office (unless as a volunteer?)



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Wasn't clear by "elections office" if he meant the supervisor's office or the state division of elections. Can't see a staff listing on the OCSE website.

When I worked for the Division of Elections, we didn't have in-house counsel. We used either the AG's office or the Secretary of State's legal counsel.
 

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