Primeval Whirl Replacement??

[DarkMeasures]

I had the prizes that friends won do dirty stuf......

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Anyway, Dinorama does fit in well but I would rather see something better. I can ride a clone of Primevil Whril 60 minutes from my house (SFGAm).

But anyway, if you check the news on this site, it seems the Primevil Whril is indeed the excavator coaster. It is just that current management at Imagineering killed the concept.

A decent sized coaster can take the place of Primevil Whril's 2 tracks and a major E-ticket coaster could easily expand from there to the parking lot.

 

[CTXRover]

My apologies, but I don't really see how Dinorama has a "no-theme" theme. I respect people's opinons though and again, I totally agree and understand how one can despise/dislike the theme chosen, but what they did do is right on the money in terms of convincingly portraying a 50's-60's roadside fair/tourist trap, complete with appropriate music. I've said earlier my disappointment with how temporary/makeshift parts look, but primeval whirl is the most "themed" of any wild-mouse ride I've seen. I admittingly haven't been to every amusement/theme park in the world, but not too many rides of that category have lots of props that actually "tell a story" throughout if you pay attention (Trip to the past, countdown to asteroid hit, asteroids coming, dinos running for safety and dodging asteroids, then you're hit by one that causes your vehicle to spin out of control, and then finally ending up back in present day through a dino skeleton etc....its purposfully a tongue-in-cheek reproduction of Dinosaur). The large orange "Concreteasuraus" is pretty neat too, as are the big cement dinos at the other entrance. I also really like the Dinorama title spelled out in bushes with license plate borders near the entrance. And again, although its just a "spinner ride", Triceratops Spin is technically one of a kind in look. I don't like how "cheap" it feels either or the perception of "boy that looks cheap" I hear around here or elsehwere, but I don't hate it as it adds something that obviously is making most guests happy from what I've gathered.....

Again, I dislike how "cheap" it looks and believe they could have made a more tasteful carnival/fair depiction, but it keeps in line with the rest of AK's theme of "reality" and its like, what, an acre out of a 500 acre theme park? Everything else in AK is, in my opinion, often superior to anything in the other parks in terms of look, feel, theme and scale. The Tree of Life alone is a masterpiece of theme and art and the Safari is unmatched in my book in terms of details and overall experience. That's why its my favorite park. It might not have as much in terms of things to do and mark off, but what it does have is spectacular. Everest 'looks' to continue that tradition and hopefully AK will continue to develop along those lines and not Dinorama lines. I hated Dinorama at first because I too thought "they lost it", but I've grown to accept and like it for what it is. Then again, if they tore it down, I probably wouldn't be upset at all.

 

[General Grizz]

Haven't heard a thing, but BULLDOZE THE PLACE. This is one rare occurance where I support closing down an existing attraction that hasn't replaced another one. . .

Cheap games to get money. . . rides with "assumed" characters and lack of "show" (see: Universal, Men in Black ride introduction sequence). . . and just plain ugly. Carnivals just don't belong - you'll see these everywhere else in Florida; save the money for Beastly Kingdom.

(Sorry my posts are shorter, but I've discussed this attraction so many times. Holler if you need my reasoning. )

 

[DarkMeasures]

Animal Kingdom is probably going to be my favorite park when it is complete. And CTX is right about it being on 1 acre. M yard is 1x6 acres so I can easily tell that size.

 

[Lauriebar]

I don't have anything against PW or TS. Both rides are fine and fun and wasted in the area that they are in. My problem as I have said is that it could have been done differently. Good theming is not an excuse for putting games that the guests have to pay for! They are ugly and out of place.

I guess I just don't understand why Disney would want to evoke this kind of image. A tourist trap has a negative connotation to begin with. This being said, I believe that the imagineers could have "Disneyfied" it and made it into a wonderful area. They didn't.

 

[ClemsonTigger]

Loosing Battle

My apologies, but I don't really see how Dinorama has a "no-theme" theme. I respect people's opinons though and again, I totally agree and understand how one can despise/dislike the theme chosen, but what they did do is right on the money in terms of convincingly portraying a 50's-60's roadside fair/tourist trap, complete with appropriate music. I've said earlier my disappointment with how temporary/makeshift parts look, but primeval whirl is the most "themed" of any wild-mouse ride I've seen. I admittingly haven't been to every amusement/theme park in the world, but not too many rides of that category have lots of props that actually "tell a story" throughout if you pay attention (Trip to the past, countdown to asteroid hit, asteroids coming, dinos running for safety and dodging asteroids, then you're hit by one that causes your vehicle to spin out of control, and then finally ending up back in present day through a dino skeleton etc....its purposfully a tongue-in-cheek reproduction of Dinosaur). The large orange "Concreteasuraus" is pretty neat too, as are the big cement dinos at the other entrance. I also really like the Dinorama title spelled out in bushes with license plate borders near the entrance. And again, although its just a "spinner ride", Triceratops Spin is technically one of a kind in look. I don't like how "cheap" it feels either or the perception of "boy that looks cheap" I hear around here or elsehwere, but I don't hate it as it adds something that obviously is making most guests happy from what I've gathered.....

Again, I dislike how "cheap" it looks and believe they could have made a more tasteful carnival/fair depiction, but it keeps in line with the rest of AK's theme of "reality" and its like, what, an acre out of a 500 acre theme park? Everything else in AK is, in my opinion, often superior to anything in the other parks in terms of look, feel, theme and scale. The Tree of Life alone is a masterpiece of theme and art and the Safari is unmatched in my book in terms of details and overall experience. That's why its my favorite park. It might not have as much in terms of things to do and mark off, but what it does have is spectacular. Everest 'looks' to continue that tradition and hopefully AK will continue to develop along those lines and not Dinorama lines. I hated Dinorama at first because I too thought "they lost it", but I've grown to accept and like it for what it is. Then again, if they tore it down, I probably wouldn't be upset at all.

While I really agree with your appreciation of the area, and do enjoy the theme, there will be no convincing our friends here, and I can also agree with their issues.

Then again, I really think DCA is a great theme idea although rushed and short on attractions. I really don't like the separate pay "games" but could go along with a game facade with regular attractions or stores inside. Unfortunately those that do not like Dinorama or DCA are not going to be convinced no matter what, I'm afraid.

 

[disneydummy125]

As much as I would like this to happen, I doubt it because it is such a new ride.

 

[chancellor]

When I said it had a "no-theme" theme, I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek. I agree Dino-Rama has a theme, that being a cheap parking lot carnival (and it's actually well done when you think how real the fake parking lot looks, along with the old cars and the corny sideshow billboards). The point is, that the theme of a cheap parking lot carnival has no place in any Disney park, no matter how realistically executed. Which I think everyone agrees with, even those who like the rides for what they are (personally, the only time I rode PW it broke down and I had to be escorted off by a CM after sitting in the car for 20 minutes).

 

[SpenceMan01]

He said about Disneyland..."A word may be said in regard to the concept and conduct of Disneyland's operational tone. Although various section will have the fun and flavor of a carnival or amusement park, there will be none of the 'pitches,' game wheels, sharp practices, and devices designed to milk the visitor's pocketbook."


If I am not mistaken that describes to a T the section in Dino-rama with the games of chance...exactly what Walt was trying to avoid.

It describes most of the Disney Company to a T too (IMO).

 

[Yen_Sid1]

They are actually having outside companies looking at Primeval Whirl and giving bids on a replacement ride. But depending on how much it will cost and be able to fit in the existing space then they will make decision then. Right now it is just wishful thinking.

 

[Tim G]

They are actually having outside companies looking at Primeval Whirl and giving bids on a replacement ride. But depending on how much it will cost and be able to fit in the existing space then they will make decision then. Right now it is just wishful thinking.

Primeval ride is an existing ride all over the world... (only the title is set to disney) Disney never sells whole rides... only the parts... Sorry, you must have been mis-informed.

 

[Snapper Bean]

They are actually having outside companies looking at Primeval Whirl and giving bids on a replacement ride. But depending on how much it will cost and be able to fit in the existing space then they will make decision then. Right now it is just wishful thinking.

I think this is great news. I find the Primeval Whirl to be decidedly boring.

 

[Yen_Sid1]

Primeval ride is an existing ride all over the world... (only the title is set to disney) Disney never sells whole rides... only the parts... Sorry, you must have been mis-informed.

I only said they are looking to replace Primeval Whirl, not sell it.

 

[Tim G]

Does your double negative mean that you have heard something? :animwink:

No... Typo....

 

[626]

The problem I have with Dinorama is it's appearence and location. It not only looks cheap, but it's also ugly!! Completely out of place in a Disney park. I wouldn't care that it looks so awful if it wasn't for it's location. Did they have to put it in such a prime spot? You can't miss it! If it was tucked away in some corner off to the side somewhere I wouldn't have the same problem with it that I have with where it is now. If it were hidden I could avoid that area of the park and pretend it doesn't exist. If only it were not so obvious I would probably be glad it's there. The more people that are going on that, the shorter the line is for the attractions I like. I hope the rumors are true. I would love to see it out of there. Put something else there. Anything but a statue of michael eisner would be better than what's there now!

 

[KaliSplash]

It seems to me that what happened at Animal Kingdom is exactly what happened at Disney MGM.
Disney panicked when they saw what Universal planned in Orlando and set out to compete. The result in both cases is a hasty (relatively) park that didn't have enough to do.
Only when Tower of Terror and more especially Rocken Roller Coaster, Fantasmic, etc. did Disney MGM become a full-day park. It could still use more attractions.
Animal Kingdom is no where close to a full day, unless you carefully study the gorillas and tigers on the walking trails. (and wait in line to meet the characters in Camp Minnie Mickey).
What Primevil Whirl and Triceratops Spin did was to add two more attractions to a park that desparately needed more attractions. Not only that, it added at least one attraction specifically geared to kids.
It seems to me the themeing is the ultimate inside joke. What we love about Disney parks is the attention to detail, the elaborate themeing, etc. that sets them apart from the local Six Flags/Paramount parks or especially your state fair.
The theming of this little roadside attraction is superb. It is what it is. It is what it is designed to be. And yes, the MEANT for it to look CHEAP!!! They worked hard to make it look CHEAP. They succeeded.
They probably should add a carosel with all dinosaurs and some other dipply little ride, for children and to expand on the theme.
Do I think this is wonderful? No. Do I think it was a quick, cheap way to add attractions to a park that needs more attractions? Yes. But there is no question they succeeded in what they attempted to do.
I realize many people here don't like what they attempted to do. It IS exactly what Disney parks are NOT.
That's the joke!!

 

[twistedmickey]

I have to agree that this area of AK was done with very little money and under a regime that knew nothing of what Disney stood for. I say destroy the thing and put a Journey to the Center of the Earth ride where before you get shot through the volcano you encounter a long lost dinosaur. It could work....

 

[barnebd5]

I really hope this is true.
In fact get rid of the whole Dino-Rama area.

EXACTLY My thinking, I really don't like that area at all. It represents what Disney never wanted to be. Plus I always see people all over carrying around those HIDEOUS stuffed animals they win in those games there.

 

[NeverEnufDisney]

I tned to agree that it was a cheap idea done for budget reasons and I can see why it so aesthetically unpleasing to so many. However, it's an okay place to take the 8 and under who will have fun. Until they convince me that what they will replace it with is not a barren lot for 3 years and it's something that the small fry will enjoy more, then let it be. I can avoid it and there is plenty of acreage for them to develop additional attractions. Just a thought, go ahead and hate it and avoid it and let those who like it, enjoy it in peace.

 

[LoriMistress]

I really hope this is true.
In fact get rid of the whole Dino-Rama area.

I'm gonna have to agree with you.