POLL: Your choice for next major rehab?

Which attraction should Disney rehab & upgrade next?

  • Pirates of the Carribean

    Votes: 69 41.3%
  • Space Mountain

    Votes: 45 26.9%
  • Haunted Mansion

    Votes: 30 18.0%
  • Country Bear Jamboree

    Votes: 23 13.8%

  • Total voters
    167

NemoRocks78

Seized
IMO, The Haunted Mansion needs it more than the others. I'm surprised everyone wants Pirates to get a major rehab, because I honestly haven't seen a thing wrong with it.

But...CoP deserves it the most. :)
 

General Grizz

New Member
NemoRocks78 said:
IMO, The Haunted Mansion needs it more than the others. I'm surprised everyone wants Pirates to get a major rehab, because I honestly haven't seen a thing wrong with it.

But...CoP deserves it the most. :)
I think it has to do with the viewpoint - i.e. what image "rehab" evokes: "This needs to be fixed" whereas "This needs to be better."

For you and I, perhaps, it is the former. :)
 

CaptainMichael

Well-Known Member
Jon_in_NC said:
I'll say this, I'm sooo jealous of the version Disneyland Paris has. What a great coaster to have in the Magic Kingdom!

There is WDW's big E-ticket that would satisfy the thrillseekers, plus a ride for the teens/adults. Come on, you took away Alien Encounter, give us older folks something! :lol:

If you mistyped and meant the Magic Kingdom, you are right, but if you meant all of Walt Disney World then you missed:
Rock N Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith :D
The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror :D
Expedition Everest: Legend of the Forbidden Mountain :sohappy:
 

Jon_in_NC

Member
STR8FAN2005 said:
If you mistyped and meant the Magic Kingdom, you are right, but if you meant all of Walt Disney World then you missed:
Rock N Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith :D
The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror :D
Expedition Everest: Legend of the Forbidden Mountain :sohappy:



Yes, I meant the Magic Kingdom, sorry.
 

CaptainMichael

Well-Known Member
Jon_in_NC said:
Yes, I meant the Magic Kingdom, sorry.

I totally agree with you then, the Magic Kingdom does need an attraction for the big boys and girls to ride. A possible place for a new thrill ride to be built is in the vacant 20K Leagues Under the Sea Lagoon area, and there are rumors of Indiana Jones Adventure maybe coming to Adventureland.
 

Jon_in_NC

Member
STR8FAN2005 said:
I totally agree with you then, the Magic Kingdom does need an attraction for the big boys and girls to ride. A possible place for a new thrill ride to be built is in the vacant 20K Leagues Under the Sea Lagoon area, and there are rumors of Indiana Jones Adventure maybe coming to Adventureland.


Yes, that is a lot of land to build a thrill ride or something even not thought of yet. Personally, I would like for the Indiana Jones ride to be over at the Studios in place of the Indiana Jones stunt show. With the new stunt show coming soon, I personally don't see the need for two stunt shows. This of course is IF WDW ever gets the Indiana Jones Adventure. And IF Spielberg, Lucas, and Ford ever make a part IV, it would only add to the attraction's nice longevity.

My argument is that the building is already there for a Space Mountain update or reworking, so use Space mountain as your "rehabed" attraction and use the 20,000 Leagues area for something completely new and original.
 

PeterAlt

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
General Grizz said:
The first thing we need to consider is that we're dealing with THEME PARK ORIGINALS, and for that, they should be respected. All changes should be made in accordance with the spirit of the original attraction - not movies, tie-ins, etc.

In order of least-to-most:

5. Space Mountain - The ride is still popular, there will be a version closed at Disneyland for an entire more year, and because it still thrives off of thrill, other attractions should be given rehabs first.

Changes to be made - New track? Musical score? I'm not too sure, I'm not really digging the musical score, as the WDW version's darkness/screaming adds a little to the nostalgia factor. I would bring back the theme song and bring in an awesome new post-show. I am somewhat more impartial to this attraction. Whatever they do, just keep the building white. ;) :p

4. Pirates of the Caribbean - Honesly, I don't think this attraction needs a rehab as much as others. Show quality is excellent and can only be improved upon. Whatever is done -- no movie tie ins! Leave that for the theatre or DCA/Disney-MGM. :)

Changes to be made - New animatronics? Better speakers? More effects? Certainly! But be sure to keep the cooky pirates, and the overall atmosphere. Much can help.

3. Country Bear Jamboree - The original "Magic Kingdom classic," CBJ still draws in the crowds, and therefore a gut would be unfair. Disney should also know by now that "Under New Management" shows just doesn't work. But this attraction needs improvements.

Changes to be made - New sound system, first and foremost! That's the big one. The animatronics are in good condition, now that they are under a new digital system, but new animatronics with the latest features (will Disney INVEST in this?? I would flip in joy if they did), but, of course the same show, same characters, same spirit.

2. Haunted Mansion - No doubt this one needs it the most. The doombuggies sway from side to side after changing position and the sound system is horrible (especially in the doombuggies themselves). But the attraction remains one of the most definite Disney classics.

Changes to be made - New soundtrack system, maybe get rid of those popping ghosts - maybe ;), brand new track installed, whatever. Bring in the latest special effects, but keep the eerines (perhaps its sign of age MAKES it eerie today?? Perhaps).

But the biggest attraction that needs rehab the MOST - in my opinion - is no doubt

1. Walt Disney's Carousel of Progress - Walt wanted this one ride (dedicated to him, if he knew it or not - at least his vision) to be open as long as the parks existed. Successful seasonal (and even an upcoming year-round) operation and polling that guests love "progress," too. However, it won't have the same lines as Space Mountain - or perhaps even Country Bear Jamboree - because its hidden in Tomorrowland and isn't even advertised properly in the Tomorrowland Transity Authority.

Changes to be made - First -- NEW ANIMATRONICS! Second - reglorify the pavilion. Make a new outside sign have motion and banners (ala World Fair?) and retheme the pavilion to a more pleasing, more state-of-the-art design. Next is the theatre - glorify them. Make the sound system OUTSTANDING (especially the theme song tracks, which are in need of volume and more instruments). New script, new final scene, but one thing should remain consistent - and that's progress.

:D

So far, the only attraction on this list that is planned to go down for rehab is PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN. This would happen later next year.

The HAUNTED MANSION was originally slated to have a rehab this past winter, after a Haunted Mansion Holiday premiered. It was cancelled.

Grizz -- Here's my opinion (in order of most needed first):

(1) Pirates of the Caribbean -- After riding the DL version and seeing the movie, the WDW version is good but is not up to "standard". While it was a good decision by Card Walker to create a WDW version, it was a desasterous mistake by Walker not to give it the budget it deserved and to rush its development! It has been an even worse mistake by all CEO's following Walker (yes, this includes Eisner) not to do anything to correct Walker's mistake and not to make any improvements whatsoever over the years since it opened. So, this should be #1 priority and it should be given a big budget to correct Walker's mistake and the the years of neglect. But the project should be more than just a "correct mistakes" project but also install the newest AA's figures, special effects, etc.

(2) The second most-needed upgrade/rehab (IMHO) should be Space Mountain. This should start after DL's project is complete. WDW's should retain the same track layout and design. I'm, not sure if a sound track is
needed... I'd let the Imagineers and visitor surveys determine that. But a new smooth track should be installed, new special effects, a modern safety system, and an exit camera system (all E-ticket have this except Space Mountain).

(3) Haunted Mansion -- less of a priority because the show is good as is, but after the above projects are done, it should get the new sound system and all the refreshes and enhancements found in the DL version.

(4) Country Bears -- I was only joking when I added this to my poll list, but, yes, it does need new speakers, but this shouldn't wait as a stand-alone project -- just do it overnight... and do it before the current speakers blow.

Now, if they could find a way to put in WRE....
 

626

Member
I voted for Space Mountain. Haunted Mansion doesn't need to be changed at all. PotC and CoP only need minor changes. Country Bears? They needed to get rid of that thing 10 years ago. Nothing could help that! Space Mountain is too much like an old roller coaster (Hey, it IS on old roller coaster lol!) They need to redo it, make it a nice smooth ride like Rockn Rollercoaster. Keep it pitch black though, don't need big blacklight lit signs like in RnRC
 

Joalovar

New Member
My two cents...

My vote goes to PoTC because I think that ride needs improved AAs and more realistic cannon FXs. In second place, HM deserves a better audio system and newer special FXs.

And by the way, Snow Whites Scary Adventures, IMHO really, really do deserve some major changes (it's so outdated!).
 

General Grizz

New Member
626 said:
. Country Bears? They needed to get rid of that thing 10 years ago. Nothing could help that!

:confused: Are you denying the love for the expression on this thread and to the attraction itself?

Why want to get rid of the attraction if it's a favorite, and you could simply walk by it? :confused:
 

GoofyFan1

Active Member
I was going to vote for HM but decided that SM needed an update. With the technology out there today you could really jazz up space mountain. I don't want to mess with it too much per se, just improved que, smoother ride, sound system that works.

I guess you could say the same abou the sound system and ride for haunted mansion. In POTC, please update the animatronics.

(Hey Grizz, my wife agrees about the pop-up ghouls.)
 

mrtoad

Well-Known Member
TiggerBW said:
BUT something I think needs a rehab that is not an attraction but part of Disney is Poly!!!! I LOVE that resort, but it needs a rehab. :D

Do you mean the theming needs to change or is it run down? We are booked there for January and just wondered.

Thanks.
 

626

Member
I'll admit that I have a single fond memory of being in the Country Bear Jamboree as they sang "Thank God I'm A Country Bear" but I think that memory is more about my fondness for the song Thank God I'm A Country Boy than it is for the Country Bear attraction itself. I have no problem with Country Bear Jamboree being there at all, as you said I can (And do) just walk right past it but the theme of this thread is what attractions need a rehab and I feel no amount of rehab, in my eyes, would help it. Maybe if they train actual bears to sing I might give it a second look but that's beyond even Disney magic. I wasn't trying to step on anyone's toes though and if I insulted your favorite attraction I appologize. If you want to talk trash about my favorite attraction (RnRC) feel free :)
 

mrtoad

Well-Known Member
I voted Space Mountain for a few reasons.

One reason is I don't think they could ruin it. On the low end of rehabs they could smooth out the track. On the high end make it more like the RnRC track add some music, etc.

The others could get destroyed like Tropical Serenade. I can see them adding Eddie Murphy, Johnny Depp and electric guitars and tour bus from each of the movies. I would have to cry, and cry, and cry.

Another reason is Tomorrowland needs something to spice it up. It is a land with such potential but does not seem to draw enough attention. A new Space Mountain could be that spice.

Just to add though, Grizz is correct. CoP needs some love. I think the exterior change is the most needed to draw people in. It seems that when Tomorrowland was rehabbed CoP and the Speedway were the things untouched. People see the Speedway and know what it is. CoP looks like a big boring building. They need something to make it more noticeable.
 

mrtoad

Well-Known Member
GoofyFan1 said:
(Hey Grizz, my wife agrees about the pop-up ghouls.)

They do need to go. Bring back the old skulls that jumped up and screeched. They were excellent. Their replacement kind of stink...
 

WDWEric

New Member
I say Haunted Mansion, the sound system is terrible and the ride system could ve updated, I lobve the classic feel of it though.
 

diddy_mouse

Well-Known Member
i said Space Mountain for the reasons that many other have mentioned (track to jerky, speical effects, etc...) but i am aware the classic value of this attraction. what might be nice is an update, but with a vintage twist. sticking with the art deco feel of Tommorowland, Space Mtn could exhibit some of those qualities. also:
- chrome styling in the queue
- better effects with the meteors
- carry the entrance music through the entire queue instead of just in the beginning
- smooth out the track and change the "space effect" just a little...except the flashy lights in the tunnel (i like that)

just some suggestions! :wave:
 
Joalovar said:
My vote goes to PoTC because I think that ride needs improved AAs and more realistic cannon FXs. In second place, HM deserves a better audio system and newer special FXs.

And by the way, Snow Whites Scary Adventures, IMHO really, really do deserve some major changes (it's so outdated!).

Definetly disagree here. The only part of pirates that really needs some help is the battle scene with the cannons. The AAs are some of the best in the park and don't need immediate rehab.

Mansion on the other hand, although still very good, needs a fix job. Mainly the update and addtion of effects and AAs and a new ride system to rplace the bumpy ride not to mention just matnience in general, although it's still not as bad as many people claim. Am I the only one who thinks those spiders are the lamest things I've ever seen?

And snow white is a classic and pretty much perfect the way it is. Definetly much better than I remembered it. Pooh on the other hand was a piece of pooh in comparison.
 

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