News Parking Fees increase effective October 16 2018

The_Jobu

Well-Known Member
If I might offer my opinion when no one asked for it, this is a discussion forum, this is the thread created by the administrator, and everyone is offering their opinions in the proper setting.

Any and all can read the title and know what the thread will be full of. If this boils your potato, you have every opportunity to avoid this thread and find one you enjoy.

I'm grateful for this forum, without which I most likely would not be aware of the constant penny-squeezing going on in the parks across the board lately. Frankley, I find it very alarming and have begun rethinking future trips.

And don't call me Frankley
 

WEDwaydatamover

Well-Known Member
Serious question,
I know we joke but Disney is not even on the radar of poor people. I work with those in Camden NJ and getting 40 miles down the road to the Jersey shore is a once a year proposition.
Has Disney ever been for the poor?? Where did the notion that Disney has to be affordable to everyone come from?
I mean I don't see that mentality anywhere else.
Lol as long as I've been going its cost a nice chunk of change

Walt was a Capitalist businessman with a heart that knew what the public wanted and what he wanted back in return.

Surely the Parks were more reasonable in prices vs inflation in the golden years mostly. I say mid 90s was a switching point and mid 2000s was a feeling point. Now is becoming a strangle point. I agree with you, but it wasn't always, this way.
 

RustySpork

Oscar Mayer Memer
Walt was a Capitalist businessman with a heart that knew what the public offered.

Surely the Parks were more reasonable in prices vs inflation in the golden years mostly. I say mid 90s was a switching point and mid 2000s was a feeling point. Now is becoming a strangle point. I agree with you, but it wasn't always, this way.

Roy was more of the capitalist in this story, Walt was creative to a fault and seemed to pay little attention to cost unless it was regarding labor.*

* I could be way off base here, just going from memory of Disney history that I've watched and read.
 

WEDwaydatamover

Well-Known Member
Roy was more of the capitalist in this story, Walt was creative to a fault and seemed to pay little attention to cost unless it was regarding labor.

That's absolutely true man. I just naturally gravitated to Walt Disney because the big guy was addressed specifically but indirectly.

It's a shame Roy doesn't have more hold. Afterall.......
 

RustySpork

Oscar Mayer Memer
That's absolutely true man. I just naturally gravitated to the Disney because the big guy was addressed specifically.

I don't really think Walt cared much at all about money. I thought he had been quoted saying something about a goal of Disney Land being affordable to all, but I can't seem to find it.
 

WEDwaydatamover

Well-Known Member
I'm in with you, but he was flying over that area before his death @ setting ex-CIA operatives on missions to set up the powers of Reedy Creek and set up pseudonym corporations to buy land (on Main Street windows as a joke or homage) of how, they stole the land and usage and power from homeowners and from the State of Florida.

We can agree to disagree however. I'm smiling.
 

BisonLion

Member
Walt was a Capitalist businessman with a heart that knew what the public wanted and what he wanted back in return.

Surely the Parks were more reasonable in prices vs inflation in the golden years mostly. I say mid 90s was a switching point and mid 2000s was a feeling point. Now is becoming a strangle point. I agree with you, but it wasn't always, this way.


It also was a different time (the golden years). It is funny, there is one complaint about how busy the parks are and then next about the pricing. The first can't happen if the second is too high. As far as what some view as gouging and that "there are not other offers". They are wrong, unless you are a local (then you get discounts on tickets or can buy AP's that are an advantage to us that live out of town). If i remember correctly and you can have Mear's pick you up and drop you off for only the vehicle fee, also most of the offsite rental properties have buses that also deliver you to the park. The issue is you are bound by their schedule.

While this is a money grab to an extent, it also an interesting business plan. The increase in parking, will play a factor in a person's (family's) decision into staying on property. If you can justify staying on property when you include room, transportation, and PARKING, it makes staying on property a much better value. I have stayed off property twice, and after each trip I swore i would only stay on property in the future due to the hassles with staying off property. In both cases we were with another family that was trying to save pennies, but I think we ended up spending more due to cost of parking, trying to get back to your vehicle if you had park hopped, etc.

In the end, if it isn't affecting attendance, it is a good business decision. An yes attendance is down, but I truly believe, that is a function of Star Wars Land. For example we are not going to Disney World next spring, and instead are going on a Disney Cruise simply due to waiting on SWL.
 

RustySpork

Oscar Mayer Memer
I'm in with you, but he was flying over that area before his death @ setting ex-CIA operatives on missions to set up the powers of Reedy Creek and set up pseudonym corporations to buy land (on Main Street windows as a joke or homage) of how, they stole the land and usage and power from homeowners and from the State of Florida.

We can agree to disagree however. I'm smiling.

I mean, he had so much money from all that that he just left his plane out in the back of HS. :joyfull:
 

draybook

Well-Known Member
Disney doesn't need any excuses. It's a luxury item and it's their property. They can raise the price to $500 per day to park if they want. They don't have to have an excuse.

If you don't like it, don't go. Simple as that. One can exist without a Walt Disney World vacation just fine. When market forces dictate to Disney that their fees are too high, they will lower them. As long as a sufficient number of people keep showing up and paying the prices, they will keep raising them.

I don't know why we have to keep having this same debate over and over again.

Wait, you mean we have the option of not going? That's insane! Next thing you'll be telling me we have the option of voicing our opinion...
 

RustySpork

Oscar Mayer Memer
Wait, you mean we have the option of not going? That's insane! Next thing you'll be telling me we have the option of voicing our opinion...

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Naplesgolfer

Well-Known Member
@Tom P.

Forgetting the argument of the general direction creatively of the parks...that’s a completely different thing, and quite frankly is a much more interesting discussion.

But to pricing issues....

The reason these threads devolve into 50 pages of the same carp is because of the misguided and condescending way some posters like to try and insect some sort of “reality” into the discussion.

I know the reality. We all know the reality. We all get it. That doesn’t stop it from sucking when Disney is very obviously targeting it’s “guests”. There’s no need to swoop in and say “too bad, neener neener, Disney has the right to do whatever they want”....

That’s why these discussions get so contentious. Dumb posters (not you) who think they are so smart for saying, don’t like it don’t go. Or Dizney Werld is a bidness. We know!!! We just are mad about the direction of the parks.

I’m at the gym, so it’s hard to parse my thoughts correctly here, hopefully I got my point across.
@Tom P.

Forgetting the argument of the general direction creatively of the parks...that’s a completely different thing, and quite frankly is a much more interesting discussion.

But to pricing issues....

The reason these threads devolve into 50 pages of the same carp is because of the misguided and condescending way some posters like to try and insect some sort of “reality” into the discussion.

I know the reality. We all know the reality. We all get it. That doesn’t stop it from sucking when Disney is very obviously targeting it’s “guests”. There’s no need to swoop in and say “too bad, neener neener, Disney has the right to do whatever they want”....

That’s why these discussions get so contentious. Dumb posters (not you) who think they are so smart for saying, don’t like it don’t go. Or Dizney Werld is a bidness. We know!!! We just are mad about the direction of the parks.

I’m at the gym, so it’s hard to parse my thoughts correctly here, hopefully I got my point across.


I also have problems with Disney's creative direction. But you stated " I know the reality" but you don't want them targeting guest's. In my opinion that is the only people they can target is their guests, to pay for all the expansion I and others want. Pricing is also the only way to get a handle on crowds.
 

Missing20K

Well-Known Member
Put some white polka dots on that and charge people $100 a ride to anywhere on property.

There you go corporate, you can take the rest of the day off.

$100 to drive it and I'm in. Dots and all. Cripes, paint it pink with dots, put a bow on it, and I'd still fork my money over.

Pricing is also the only way to get a handle on crowds.

Or increase capacity.
 

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