News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

[Disney Irish]

I want DCA to be as good as Disneyland. Or at least try to be. What's wrong with that?

I waited to post on this because I wanted to see if anyone else would bring this up.

In my opinion this is putting an unattainable expectation on DCA. Disneyland was/is a one-off that could never really be replicated. Because it was built by a specific group of people from a specific period in time. Even MK has an issue with trying to be compared with DL. Its the reason why there is this constant DL vs MK discussion going on with fans.

DCA for all its issues and fixes will just never be on the same level as Disneyland. DCA is always going to be its own thing, basically another one-off in Anaheim. And I think this is just something that you're going to have to accept over time, and I hope you do. Anyways just my two cents.

 

[Disney Analyst]

The line for the coaster was all the way into the WOC viewing area at open so... And the cookie stand had a line to the bathrooms.

People eat this stuff up

 

[Rich T]

That's all fine and dandy, but it doesn't make the theming "top notch", nor does it mean that Disney hasn't been frugal at its parks since the beginning, even when it had the resources to spend more...I could be wrong, but you might be a teency bit biased.

Biased? Moi??? Let's just say I was fortunate enough to have the greatest park on Earth as part of my childhood and adulthood, and I don't like seeing it gradually losing half of what I loved about it in the name of maximum short term profits. (Plus I'm a huge classic Disney geek).
(EDIT)There's no way I can be completely objective about this stuff. DL gave me decades of great memories, family time and inspiration. It's personal. )

 

[TROR]

Wait, this is the cookie stand? Where's the giant Jack Jack eating a cookie on top? What happened? How much of the budget was cut for Pixar Pier? I don't understand. It was already dirt cheap to begin with. This is so pathetic. Everything about this is laughable. How does one file a complaint about the park at the Chamber of Commerce? Do you just go in and tell the CM you have a complaint about the park? I'm going to do it. Gosh, this entire pier is a disgrace.

 

[Rich T]

I waited to post on this because I wanted to see if anyone else would bring this up.

In my opinion this is putting an unattainable expectation on DCA. Disneyland was/is a one-off that could never really be replicated. Because it was built by a specific group of people from a specific period in time. Even MK has an issue with trying to be compared with DL. Its the reason why there is this constant DL vs MK discussion going on with fans.

DCA for all its issues and fixes will just never be on the same level as Disneyland. DCA is always going to be its own thing, basically another one-off in Anaheim. And I think this is just something that you're going to have to accept over time, and I hope you do. Anyways just my two cents.

Agreed. DCA needs to carve its own niche--It just needs to do it well. RSR and maybe a mega Marvel ride might be the only real epic E tickets DCA ever gets. That's okay. It can be a nicely done thrill ride collection as far as I'm concerned. I don't mind it being DL's overflow Day 2 park.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Wait, this is the cookie stand? Where's the giant Jack Jack eating a cookie on top? What happened? How much of the budget was cut for Pixar Pier? I don't understand. It was already dirt cheap to begin with. This is so pathetic. Everything about this is laughable. How does one file a complaint about the park at the Chamber of Commerce? Do you just go in and tell the CM you have a complaint about the park? I'm going to do it. Gosh, this entire pier is a disgrace.

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Apparently the sign hasn't been installed yet..

 

[Rich T]

When I think of Roller Coasters the last thing I’d associate with them is babysitting. They are super heroes and its a high speed thrill ride and they made it about trying to get a baby? The project could’ve been cool if done properly.

My feelings exactly. "Catch the Baby" is the worst coaster retheme idea ever. It's the plot of many old Popeye cartoons, but at least they didn't put multiple Swee' Peas on sticks.

 

[TROR]

I waited to post on this because I wanted to see if anyone else would bring this up.

In my opinion this is putting an unattainable expectation on DCA. Disneyland was/is a one-off that could never really be replicated. Because it was built by a specific group of people from a specific period in time. Even MK has an issue with trying to be compared with DL. Its the reason why there is this constant DL vs MK discussion going on with fans.

DCA for all its issues and fixes will just never be on the same level as Disneyland. DCA is always going to be its own thing, basically another one-off in Anaheim. And I think this is just something that you're going to have to accept over time, and I hope you do. Anyways just my two cents.

By no means do I ever think it will be equal to Disneyland, the lack of history and initial poor planning have already decided that it won't be, but I'd like to see it strive to be like Disneyland. Look at TDS. Sure, it's a beautiful park, but that's not, at its core, what makes it great. Look deeper at the themes of the park. 1940's (?) Italy, 1890's/1900's New York, steampunk, 1930's jungle, ancient Arabia, mermaids, and more steampunk. Those all are similar to lands in Disneyland. Mediterranean Harbor is like New Orleans Square, American Waterfront is like Main Street, Port Discovery and Mysterious Island are like Tomorrowland, Arabian Coast and Lost River Delta are like Adventureland, and Mermaid Lagoon is like Fantasyland. Even notice that TDS has Indiana Jones Adventure, an attraction from Disneyland initially. Can DCA be the same way? Yessir. Buena Vista Street and Paradise Pier can be like Main Street, Paradise Pier can also be like Fantasyland, Grizzly Peak can be like Frontierland and Critter Country, and Hollywood Land can be like New Orleans Square. With proper love and attention to really let those themes blossom, the park could be, and was on its way to being, great.

 

[Disney Irish]

Agreed. DCA needs to carve its own niche--It just needs to do it well. RSR and maybe a mega Marvel ride might be the only real epic E tickets DCA ever gets. That's okay. It can be a nicely done thrill ride collection as far as I'm concerned. I don't mind it being DL's overflow Day 2 park.

Thanks. If @TP2000 nice neighbor lady is correct then we should be getting a mega high capacity Marvel attraction. I'm still hoping for another coaster as I think DLR needs a little more thrill. And DCA should be the park that provides that thrill. Have DL as more the classic family style park. And have DCA being the more teen/adult park. That is not say each can't have a sprinkle of the other in each park. But overall I think that should be niche that DCA should carve out.

 

[Disney Lover Addie]

The sad thing about this whole project is that it wasn't even necessary in the first place. DCA was already near-perfect after the giant overhaul that finished in 2012. Almost everything tied in with the park's new theme as a timeless ode to California. Now, they're making mistakes again, just like they did 17 years ago. We have these unneeded overlays of existing attractions that already fit the park better in their previous incarnations, and as a result, the consistency is falling apart again. It's becoming another showcase for Iger's hottest IPs with not enough of the expected Disney thought or care put into it. First with Mission Breakout, and now this. What's next, they're going to build a Marvel land? Oh wait...

I believe the name should be Disney Adventure. Or maybe something else that has a ring to it.

 

[Disney Irish]

By no means do I ever think it will be equal to Disneyland, the lack of history and initial poor planning have already decided that it won't be, but I'd like to see it strive to be like Disneyland. Look at TDS. Sure, it's a beautiful park, but that's not, at its core, what makes it great. Look deeper at the themes of the park. 1940's (?) Italy, 1890's/1900's New York, steampunk, 1930's jungle, ancient Arabia, mermaids, and more steampunk. Those all are similar to lands in Disneyland. Mediterranean Harbor is like New Orleans Square, American Waterfront is like Main Street, Port Discovery and Mysterious Island are like Tomorrowland, Arabian Coast and Lost River Delta are like Adventureland, and Mermaid Lagoon is like Fantasyland. Even notice that TDS has Indiana Jones Adventure, an attraction from Disneyland initially. Can DCA be the same way? Yessir. Buena Vista Street and Paradise Pier can be like Main Street, Paradise Pier can also be like Fantasyland, Grizzly Peak can be like Frontierland and Critter Country, and Hollywood Land can be like New Orleans Square. With proper love and attention to really let those themes blossom, the park could be, and was on its way to being, great.

That is the problem though, you are again trying to compare DCA to different parks. DCA is and will always be its own thing. Its not and will never be one type of park that is comparable to any of the others. The sooner that you accept that the less heartbreak and issues you'll have with it.

 

[TROR]

That is the problem though, you are again trying to compare DCA to different parks. DCA is and will always be its own thing. Its not and will never be one type of park that is comparable to any of the others. The sooner that you accept that the less heartbreak and issues you'll have with it.

No. I want X and Disney was giving me X but now they're giving me Y. I still want X. I prefer X. X is better. I'm not going to stop wanting X because Disney told me to accept Y even though Y is greatly inferior.

 

[SSG]

TouringPlans@TouringPlans "Jessie’s Critter Carousel isn’t open yet. It’s on pre order from Al’s Toy Barn. #PixaPier"

 

[Rich T]

By no means do I ever think it will be equal to Disneyland, the lack of history and initial poor planning have already decided that it won't be, but I'd like to see it strive to be like Disneyland. Look at TDS. Sure, it's a beautiful park, but that's not, at its core, what makes it great. Look deeper at the themes of the park. 1940's (?) Italy, 1890's/1900's New York, steampunk, 1930's jungle, ancient Arabia, mermaids, and more steampunk. Those all are similar to lands in Disneyland. Mediterranean Harbor is like New Orleans Square, American Waterfront is like Main Street, Port Discovery and Mysterious Island are like Tomorrowland, Arabian Coast and Lost River Delta are like Adventureland, and Mermaid Lagoon is like Fantasyland. Even notice that TDS has Indiana Jones Adventure, an attraction from Disneyland initially. Can DCA be the same way? Yessir. Buena Vista Street and Paradise Pier can be like Main Street, Paradise Pier can also be like Fantasyland, Grizzly Peak can be like Frontierland and Critter Country, and Hollywood Land can be like New Orleans Square. With proper love and attention to really let those themes blossom, the park could be, and was on its way to being, great.

More detail and consistency would go a long way toward pulling the park together in that direction. A lot of E ticket additions wouldn't even be necessary--They've just got to stop shooting the poor park in the foot.

 

[Disney Irish]

No. I want X and Disney was giving me X but now they're giving me Y. I still want X. I prefer X. X is better. I'm not going to stop wanting X because Disney told me to accept Y even though Y is greatly inferior.

What you prefer and what Disney/DCA is are just not going to line up all the time.

To take an old Walt quote and update it for DCA:

"Disney California Adventure will never be completed."

DCA is the sandbox where Disney can play and try different things. Which is what someone else mentioned earlier. They are always going to tinker with it.

 

[TROR]

What you prefer and what Disney/DCA is are just not going to line up all the time.

To take an old Walt quote and update it for DCA:

"Disney California Adventure will never be completed."

DCA is the sandbox where Disney can play and try different things. Which is what someone else mentioned earlier. They are always going to tinker with it.

Ok? I know this and I don't like it. Hence my complaints. If they're using it as a testing grounds, then they want feedback. And my feedback is it sucks.

 

[Rich T]

What you prefer and what Disney/DCA is are just not going to line up all the time.

To take an old Walt quote and update it for DCA:

"Disney California Adventure will never be completed."

DCA is the sandbox where Disney can play and try different things. Which is what someone else mentioned earlier. They are always going to tinker with it.

I just get the feeling they need someone in charge who better understands how important quality and good placemaking are to Disney Parks. DCA was doing so well in that direction, and then --- and then --

 

[ThemeParkTraveller]

By no means do I ever think it will be equal to Disneyland, the lack of history and initial poor planning have already decided that it won't be, but I'd like to see it strive to be like Disneyland. Look at TDS. Sure, it's a beautiful park, but that's not, at its core, what makes it great. Look deeper at the themes of the park. 1940's (?) Italy, 1890's/1900's New York, steampunk, 1930's jungle, ancient Arabia, mermaids, and more steampunk. Those all are similar to lands in Disneyland. Mediterranean Harbor is like New Orleans Square, American Waterfront is like Main Street, Port Discovery and Mysterious Island are like Tomorrowland, Arabian Coast and Lost River Delta are like Adventureland, and Mermaid Lagoon is like Fantasyland. Even notice that TDS has Indiana Jones Adventure, an attraction from Disneyland initially. Can DCA be the same way? Yessir. Buena Vista Street and Paradise Pier can be like Main Street, Paradise Pier can also be like Fantasyland, Grizzly Peak can be like Frontierland and Critter Country, and Hollywood Land can be like New Orleans Square. With proper love and attention to really let those themes blossom, the park could be, and was on its way to being, great.

Mediterranean Harbor takes place during the Renaissance. But I agree that having such diverse and distinctly themed areas is what makes Disneyland and TDS such amazing parks. It doesn't even matter that DCA's central theme is more limiting than those parks. As you mentioned, each of its current lands could have been close parallels with Disneyland's given the proper execution.

 

[TROR]

Mediterranean Harbor takes place during the Renaissance. But I agree that having such diverse and distinctly themed areas is what makes Disneyland and TDS such amazing parks. It doesn't even matter that DCA's central theme is more limiting than those parks. As you mentioned, each of its current lands could have been close parallels with Disneyland's given the proper execution.

You are correct. Don't know why I was thinking it 1940's. I knew it wasn't right, though. Thank you.

 

[Disney Irish]

Ok? I know this and I don't like it. Hence my complaints. If they're using it as a testing grounds, then they want feedback. And my feedback is it sucks.

Your choice how you want to look at it. I was just trying to maybe provide some perspective so you can try to have a different relationship with a park that clearly gives you constant heartbreak these days.