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Orlando Becoming East Coast Headquarters for Disney Parks, Experiences, and Products

el_super

Well-Known Member
I don't think so. The plan was not to move the entirety of WDI. Like you said they use this building for tours and essentially as an archive these days. Some will stay and keep this as their home. Many will move as well.

They can keep the building and still move WDI. You don't have to be an imagineer in order to give a tour of 1401.

If they keep ANY part of WDI in the building, they will still be bifurcating teams. If the executive leadership (Weis/Bouza/et al) stay in Glendale, and ship the lower level folks out to Florida, that new campus won't solve any of the communication problems they laid out as their reasoning for moving. Certainly, if a team stays behind in California, that team will just keep growing and growing overtime as the "real" WDI while the team in Florida languishes.

I'm starting to fall into the camp of thinking this was a layoff/reduction disguised as a relocation effort.
 

Rteetz

Premium Member
I'm starting to fall into the camp of thinking this was a layoff/reduction disguised as a relocation effort.
It is some of that yes. Its also not the worst thing for WDI either. In many ways it could and should help WDW. There still will be some of WDI in CA. It won't be a lot but they aren't just abandoning CA either.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
They can keep the building and still move WDI. You don't have to be an imagineer in order to give a tour of 1401.

If they keep ANY part of WDI in the building, they will still be bifurcating teams. If the executive leadership (Weis/Bouza/et al) stay in Glendale, and ship the lower level folks out to Florida, that new campus won't solve any of the communication problems they laid out as their reasoning for moving. Certainly, if a team stays behind in California, that team will just keep growing and growing overtime as the "real" WDI while the team in Florida languishes.

I'm starting to fall into the camp of thinking this was a layoff/reduction disguised as a relocation effort.
Why is it a given that a local team would grow? Why hasn’t this happened with Universal Creative?
 

rogerrabbitfan9

Active Member
Has anything interesting showed up yet?

I haven't had much of an update from any friends of mine but it sounds like whatever group they told a couple weeks ago has been the only one(s), and they are working to determine if more are going (which seems pretty suspect since they supposedly had 2 years to figure this out).

Wording is being changed, and it seems like either thru the bad roll out or thru the bad reaction Disney is backtracking a little on this and now suggesting it's "optional" and that they will work with people who don't want to relocate.
I haven’t seen any jobs on the engineering side get posted that are any different from the ones Disney was posting a few years ago when I last looked.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
They can keep the building and still move WDI. You don't have to be an imagineer in order to give a tour of 1401.

If they keep ANY part of WDI in the building, they will still be bifurcating teams. If the executive leadership (Weis/Bouza/et al) stay in Glendale, and ship the lower level folks out to Florida, that new campus won't solve any of the communication problems they laid out as their reasoning for moving. Certainly, if a team stays behind in California, that team will just keep growing and growing overtime as the "real" WDI while the team in Florida languishes.

I'm starting to fall into the camp of thinking this was a layoff/reduction disguised as a relocation effort.
That was be unfortunate if the CA creative teams relocated 3K miles away at company expense then would be let go afterwards if that actually ever happens.
 

JT3000

Well-Known Member
Hawaii has that? What do do they do? Throw rotten coconuts at you or flaming wreaths of flowers? Well there is tossing people in the volcano but Im not certain that is very common.....these days. It does make me wonder about alaska. Do they still use knives for shanks or just use an icicle instead.
Alaska has the highest violent crime rate in the country, so whatever they're using, it appears to be effective.

Translation - most of downtown Orlando, there is a data center in vegas in a area so bad all employees are issued firearms. Its an odd feeling being in a place where everyone is packing heat
"Most of downtown Orlando" isn't even bad (except for some of the characters who show up at night.) Parramore is problematic, but stay east of I-4 and it's fine.
 
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Lilofan

Well-Known Member
Alaska has the highest violent crime rate in the country, so whatever they're using, it appears to be effective.


"Most of downtown Orlando" isn't even bad (except for some of the characters who show up at night.) Paramore is problematic, but stay east of I-4 and it's fine.
Parramore adjacent to downtown Orlando is not somewhere I would be at night unless to catch a game with the Magic at Amway Arena but it does have a few barber shops, liquor stores and soul food places to check out during the day and help support local business. What disappoints me is at 2am when the bars close in downtown, substantial amounts of cops on bikes, horseback, cars and foot patrol surround the area and still shootings and assaults just as recent as last week.
 
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el_super

Well-Known Member
Why is it a given that a local team would grow? Why hasn’t this happened with Universal Creative?

They haven't grown?

Assuming that work will continue to expand, and the parks will continue to expand, there will be more work to do and a need for more people. If WDI keeps an office in California, eventually they will start to pull in from the same talent pool (Hollywood designers) that founded WDI in the first place.

Unless work stops entirely in California, eventually those teams will expand. Just the nature of business.


That was be unfortunate if the CA creative teams relocated 3K miles away at company expense then would be let go afterwards if that actually ever happens.

I don't think the idea is to reduce the workforce POST move, but to filter out people making the choice to stay behind.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
They haven't grown?

Assuming that work will continue to expand, and the parks will continue to expand, there will be more work to do and a need for more people. If WDI keeps an office in California, eventually they will start to pull in from the same talent pool (Hollywood designers) that founded WDI in the first place.

Unless work stops entirely in California, eventually those teams will expand. Just the nature of business.
They have, in Orlando, despite there being a local team that is largely responsible for Universal Studios Hollywood and Universal itself being headquartered there. A lot of people even relocated from California to Florida to work on Universal Studios Beijing and Epic Universe.
 

skypilot2922

Well-Known Member
That was be unfortunate if the CA creative teams relocated 3K miles away at company expense then would be let go afterwards if that actually ever happens.

No that's not the way its done, The department moves across the country to an area with a lower cost of living you are 'offered' a new job at the new location at a lower salary and no relocation expenses paid in the not unreasonable expectation that you will quit, No severance package etc. It's genius really.
 

larryz

My Last Trip was in 2018
Premium Member
Hawaii has that? What do do they do? Throw rotten coconuts at you or flaming wreaths of flowers? Well there is tossing people in the volcano but Im not certain that is very common.....these days. It does make me wonder about alaska. Do they still use knives for shanks or just use an icicle instead.
I remember being warned to avoid the west coast of Oahu since, as a haole, I was considered fair game for plunder.
 
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DisneyDebRob

Well-Known Member
For all the geniuses trashing Florida, our state budget is half that of New York’s (despite a larger population) and we have better schools, roads and jobs.
You are kidding right? Florida has lower taxes and cost of living. As for jobs.. better schools.. and yes even less crime, NY is the winner. I know everyone loves where they live for the most part but you also have to be honest with yourself. I don’t live in either state but a quick google search will find the answers.

 

ctrlaltdel

Well-Known Member
For all the geniuses trashing Florida, our state budget is half that of New York’s (despite a larger population) and we have better schools, roads and jobs.
Florida has pretty anemic wages, even with it's lower cost of living. The state itself is extremely reliant on federal transfers from Social Security and Medicare (which is built into it's no state income tax model, making it very attractive for retirees). I'm not here to trash FL, as it works for a lot of people, but I wouldn't say that any of those are necessarily better in FL, except roads (NY has an excellent higher ed system, and funds public schools across the state generously). Doesn't mean florida
 

EricsBiscuit

Well-Known Member
Florida has pretty anemic wages, even with it's lower cost of living. The state itself is extremely reliant on federal transfers from Social Security and Medicare (which is built into it's no state income tax model, making it very attractive for retirees). I'm not here to trash FL, as it works for a lot of people, but I wouldn't say that any of those are necessarily better in FL, except roads (NY has an excellent higher ed system, and funds public schools across the state generously). Doesn't mean florida
And yet Florida schools are scoring better results on tests measuring ability. Wages are not anemic. A McDonald’s worker in Tampa is paid nearly 15/hour plus benefits. It goes up from there.
 

ctrlaltdel

Well-Known Member
And yet Florida schools are scoring better results on tests measuring ability. Wages are not anemic. A McDonald’s worker in Tampa is paid nearly 15/hour plus benefits. It goes up from there.
Not really talking about minimum wages (although that is a good thing that those wages are rising!). A lot of Florida's job mix is relatively low wage compared to NYS. Florida's median wage is much, much lower than NYS.
 

EricsBiscuit

Well-Known Member
Not really talking about minimum wages (although that is a good thing that those wages are rising!). A lot of Florida's job mix is relatively low wage compared to NYS. Florida's median wage is much, much lower than NYS.
Cost of living is significantly more there too. Not to mention taxes. People vote with their feet.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
Cost of living is significantly more there too. Not to mention taxes. People vote with their feet.
There is no doubt COL is cheaper in FL as opposed to NY ( especially NYC ). $1M will buy one a nice 1 bedroom in midtown. $1M in Central Florida will get you a palatial home . The trick is if one can relocate to Central FL and maintain their Northeast or West Coast salary then yes life can be better for some in CFL.
 

skypilot2922

Well-Known Member
For all the geniuses trashing Florida, our state budget is half that of New York’s (despite a larger population) and we have better schools, roads and jobs.

Yah but Florida does not have that festering boil known as New York City which is a black hole for resources financial and otherwise which winds up in the pockets of 'connected' people.
 

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