Politics OC Register - Disneyland and Universal Studios ask Newsom not to finalize theme park reopening plans just yet

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ppete1975

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That is categorically untrue. Human health is highly dependent on your environment and surroundings. This stands for both physical and mental health. Drunk driving laws by definition limit "freedom" but the law is in place to protect human health. Environmental conditions affect your physical and mental health. I could go on, but the point is clear. As much as you and others that talk about personal freedom and such fail to admit is that your health depends on the actions of others.
Thats a great analogy. Drunk driving "if i die then its my own fault"..... how about the cars you hit and the innocent people that might be killed due to your actions. Same thing with masks and social distancing.. it isnt just about you.. its about the people you might take with you.
John F Kennedy said it best
"ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country"

.... even if he stole that quote
 

lazyboy97o

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That is categorically untrue. Human health is highly dependent on your environment and surroundings. This stands for both physical and mental health. Drunk driving laws by definition limit "freedom" but the law is in place to protect human health. Environmental conditions affect your physical and mental health. I could go on, but the point is clear. As much as you and others that talk about personal freedom and such fail to admit is that your health depends on the actions of others.
What makes a statement so truly terrifying is he claims to be involved in building design. Architects, engineers and other design professionals are responsible for protecting the health, safety and welfare of the public.
 

LastoneOn

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interesting There was just a story, or a twitter thing today about this and that many of these same things happened to all respiratory virus sufferers. Cognitive decline can last several years or longer. Not something we usually think about, or even hear about.

See its not always that someone purposefully ignores - like crime family emails, romping naked with underage relatives while on crack, "plausible deniability" and stuff - its usually that something is unknown.

All that said, I have no qualms about holding to my position. Far better to protect the vulnerable - the old in this case - than it is to destroy the future of the the younger generations.
 

ppete1975

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Huge issue i have, and i understand that its a new virus and we are still learning. And thats the contradictory information that is out there. And im not talking about Trumps statements ;). The other day on the news they reported that you had to be in the same room with someone for a combined 15 mins to catch it. While i strongly disagree this is true... I am assuming it was a statement on a possibility, and the media that is clamoring for any info and scoop the others, put it on the national news. Beyond i doubt that is accurate, based on how easily some have caught it. You have went from saying it could be on materials, is highly contagious, easily spread up to 20 feet from breathing (or whatever it is today). To now saying you have to be in close to proximity to someone for 15 mins. This type of conversations is whats adding to people having fatigue over the virus, and thinking masks dont matter "im just going to the grocery store, im not going to be talking to a stranger for 15 mins".
 

truecoat

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interesting There was just a story, or a twitter thing today about this and that many of these same things happened to all respiratory virus sufferers. Cognitive decline can last several years or longer. Not something we usually think about, or even hear about.

See its not always that someone purposefully ignores - like crime family emails, romping naked with underage relatives while on crack, "plausible deniability" and stuff - its usually that something is unknown.

All that said, I have no qualms about holding to my position. Far better to protect the vulnerable - the old in this case - than it is to destroy the future of the the younger generations.

Not just the old, anyone with juvenile diabetes or asthma for example need to be protected.

I'm not sure how we are destroying the future of younger generations by making wise decisions for what will probably be a year and half to two years tops. Saddling young people with low wages and large education debt does more damage than covid ever will.
 

Stevek

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Not just the old, anyone with juvenile diabetes or asthma for example need to be protected.

I'm not sure how we are destroying the future of younger generations by making wise decisions for what will probably be a year and half to two years tops. Saddling young people with low wages and large education debt does more damage than covid ever will.
I've got a house with 1 daughter that has type 1 diabetes, a daughter with asthma, a wife with asthma...imagine how terrified I can feel at times.
 

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