Obi-Wan Kenobi film in the works

[Heppenheimer]

I have no faith in another Kenobi project being any better than the last one.

Kenobi was what finally broke me on Disney Star Wars. Yes, the sequels got progressively worse, but for some reason I still held out hope that there was something inherent to the IP that could bring out good stories in the right hands. The Mandalorian at least was watchable for awhile.

Nope. The show completely wasted Ewan McGregor, it made the continuity between the prequels and original trilogy extremely awkward, and the whole show was a bait-and-switch to introduce a poorly written, poorly acted character who apparently wasn't particularly well received.

I was always more of a casual Star Wars fan anyway, but no thanks Disney, I'm done for now. It was only after I returned from my last trip to Disneyland that I realized, "Huh, we didn't even step foot in Galaxy's Edge", so much has Disney killed my interest in the franchise.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Kenobi was what finally broke me on Disney Star Wars. Yes, the sequels got progressively worse, but for some reason I still held out hope that there was something inherent to the IP that could bring out good stories in the right hands. The Mandalorian at least was watchable for awhile.

Nope. The show completely wasted Ewan McGregor, it made the continuity between the prequels and original trilogy extremely awkward, and the whole show was a bait-and-switch to introduce a poorly written, poorly acted character who apparently wasn't particularly well received.

I was always more of a casual Star Wars fan anyway, but no thanks Disney, I'm done for now. It was only after I returned from my last trip to Disneyland that I realized, "Huh, we didn't even step foot in Galaxy's Edge", so much has Disney killed my interest in the franchise.

I don’t go through Star Wars land either. My kids have no use for it.

Maybe if it was a Star Wars land…and not totally nondescript except for a millennium
Falcon mockup?

Just a miss

 

[Heppenheimer]

I don’t go through Star Wars land either. My kids have no use for it.

Maybe if it was a Star Wars land…and not totally nondescript except for a millennium
Falcon mockup?

Just a miss

One ride that's good but breaks down all the time, one not great ride, a whole lot of shops selling tacky crap I don't want, a bar that doesn't interest a non-drinker like myself, and much empty, unused space. One-and-done for me the first time I visited.

Still better than that lifeless ugly slab of concrete that is Avengers Campus, though.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

One ride that's good but breaks down all the time, one not great ride, a whole lot of shops selling tacky crap I don't want, a bar that doesn't interest a non-drinker like myself, and much empty, unused space. One-and-done for me the first time I visited.

Still better than that lifeless ugly slab of concrete that is Avengers Campus, though.

I bought the tie-in novel for Galaxy's Edge when it was on sale. It's not bad and the land becomes more effective when you have backstory for everything. The Art of Galaxy's Edge book also shows what the storytelling intent was.

The concept as I understand it is that you'd explore the land and pick up bits of story all over. You'd hear rumblings of a secret Resistance base. It makes sense because the base and attraction are in a non-descript out of the way area.

It doesn't work in practice because a theme park is busy. You're not going to get a lot of one on one moments with characters, Rey for example, to pick up a story. Also, because of advertising and social media and what not everyone knows what and where the big attraction is and goes there first. There's no world in which someone enters Galaxy's Edge blind and experiences the story unfold the way it was envisioned.

Would tying it into an established Star Wars locale have worked better? Maybe. I found reading the novel makes for a better connection. I'm surprised they didn't establish the land as a location in the new movies.

 

[erasure fan1]

I bought the tie-in novel for Galaxy's Edge when it was on sale. It's not bad and the land becomes more effective when you have backstory for everything. The Art of Galaxy's Edge book also shows what the storytelling intent was.

Unfortunately that's just about the worst thing you can do for a theme park land. Hey, read this book and it all makes sense. Galaxys edge should have been a slam dunk. It's actually amazing how far off the mark they were.

Would tying it into an established Star Wars locale have worked better? Maybe. I found reading the novel makes for a better connection. I'm surprised they didn't establish the land as a location in the new movies.

It's really not the location that was the issue. It's the content. A sneeze and you miss it line in Solo, the least viewed star wars film, wasn't going to cut it. Why they didn't have multiple stops there in multiple movies is a wonder. But that doesn't solve the major issue either. Until the original movies and the prequels are represented in the land, it's going to be just another theme park land. It should be a celebration of everything star wars.

When all is said and done, I think black spire outpost was the right move, executed the wrong way.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

One ride that's good but breaks down all the time, one not great ride, a whole lot of shops selling tacky crap I don't want, a bar that doesn't interest a non-drinker like myself, and much empty, unused space. One-and-done for me the first time I visited.

Still better than that lifeless ugly slab of concrete that is Avengers Campus, though.

Terrible IP…they should skin it now and just get it over with

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I bought the tie-in novel for Galaxy's Edge when it was on sale. It's not bad and the land becomes more effective when you have backstory for everything. The Art of Galaxy's Edge book also shows what the storytelling intent was.

The concept as I understand it is that you'd explore the land and pick up bits of story all over. You'd hear rumblings of a secret Resistance base. It makes sense because the base and attraction are in a non-descript out of the way area.

It doesn't work in practice because a theme park is busy. You're not going to get a lot of one on one moments with characters, Rey for example, to pick up a story. Also, because of advertising and social media and what not everyone knows what and where the big attraction is and goes there first. There's no world in which someone enters Galaxy's Edge blind and experiences the story unfold the way it was envisioned.

Would tying it into an established Star Wars locale have worked better? Maybe. I found reading the novel makes for a better connection. I'm surprised they didn't establish the land as a location in the new movies.

So a book makes it less of a bland hedge where they didn’t want to commit to an actual period?

 

[Heppenheimer]

I bought the tie-in novel for Galaxy's Edge when it was on sale. It's not bad and the land becomes more effective when you have backstory for everything. The Art of Galaxy's Edge book also shows what the storytelling intent was.

The concept as I understand it is that you'd explore the land and pick up bits of story all over. You'd hear rumblings of a secret Resistance base. It makes sense because the base and attraction are in a non-descript out of the way area.

It doesn't work in practice because a theme park is busy. You're not going to get a lot of one on one moments with characters, Rey for example, to pick up a story. Also, because of advertising and social media and what not everyone knows what and where the big attraction is and goes there first. There's no world in which someone enters Galaxy's Edge blind and experiences the story unfold the way it was envisioned.

Would tying it into an established Star Wars locale have worked better? Maybe. I found reading the novel makes for a better connection. I'm surprised they didn't establish the land as a location in the new movies.

I really don't need everything to be a story. I found the land immersive enough, there just isn't enough to do other than buy things. I don't even care what era of Star Wars they tried to set it in, just fill in some of the unused space so that my kids aren't bored out of their skulls.

 

[C33Mom]

I really don't need everything to be a story. I found the land immersive enough, there just isn't enough to do other than buy stuff. I don't even care what era of Star Wars they tried to set it in, just fill in some of the unused space so that my kids aren't bored out of their skulls.

Bringing back Jedi training, or even a first order academy, would cost about zero dollars in capex and get a new generation of kids more interested in the Star Wars franchise.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Bringing back Jedi training, or even a first order academy, would cost about zero dollars in capex and get a new generation of kids more interested in the Star Wars franchise.

The Ewok village mockup and Jedi training gave you much more warm and fuzzies…if we’re honest…than anything slick Bob built.

Sometimes things just are what they are.

 

[Screamface]

Doesn't really matter. Even if they did it just like that there would still be tons of people complaining about it and how they "did it wrong".

And why care about that if the actual thing was good? A bunch of people think Andor was boring. No one cares because plenty others think the show was fantastic.

The toxic fandom stuff is overblown to cover for absolute crap. So much of the claims of this is just spin and PR. it doesn't reflect the reality of what most people think. It's industry spin to cover for failing to appeal to the target audience.

I have no faith in another Kenobi project being any better than the last one.

I'm of the view that it's better to try and fail than to not fail. The Kenobi show sucked but that doesn't change anything for me. Stuart Beattie, who wrote the original script and planned the trilogy wants a crack at trying to save it. Despite it messing up his well-thought-out ideas. I'd rather they try that, than to just sit with the bad first season. We may get something good. I'd rather that then to wallow in the dreck of just having that first season.

We may get a second season, but we may also get something good.

Star Trek Picard showed that it's possible to produce something fans want after failing for a couple seasons by putting the right person in charge.

 

[G00fyDad]

And why care about that if the actual thing was good? A bunch of people think Andor was boring. No one cares because plenty others think the show was fantastic.

The toxic fandom stuff is overblown to cover for absolute crap. So much of the claims of this is just spin and PR. it doesn't reflect the reality of what most people think. It's industry spin to cover for failing to appeal to the target audience.

It is not overblown to cover for anything. Want proof? Create a different login for FB (or any social media account) and locate a Star Wars fan site. With one acount say something positive about ANYTHING Star Wars and watch tons of them attack you for it. THEN, use your second account and go into that same location and say the EXACT opposite of that and watch TONS of them attack you for it. Yes, the SW fanbase is VERY toxic. If you took every single thing they all seem to gripe about and fix it and do the project precisely the way they say it should be done they would still eviscerate the project for being done wrong.

 

[Phroobar]

It is not overblown to cover for anything. Want proof? Create a different login for FB (or any social media account) and locate a Star Wars fan site. With one acount say something positive about ANYTHING Star Wars and watch tons of them attack you for it. THEN, use your second account and go into that same location and say the EXACT opposite of that and watch TONS of them attack you for it. Yes, the SW fanbase is VERY toxic. If you took every single thing they all seem to gripe about and fix it and do the project precisely the way they say it should be done they would still eviscerate the project for being done wrong.

Maybe just stay away from FB and social media in general? It is all toxic.

 

[erasure fan1]

Yes, the SW fanbase is VERY toxic. If you took every single thing they all seem to gripe about and fix it and do the project precisely the way they say it should be done they would still eviscerate the project for being done wrong.

I disagree with, the fanbase is toxic. It's a bit more complicated than that. There are toxic people in all fandoms. They in no way represent anywhere close to the majority of fans. They're really an extremely small percentage of the fans. I'd even take it a step further that the majority of them aren't fans at all. They're just using star wars because of the size of audience it commands.

You are not wrong about what you said about social media. But come on, you can't lump the whole fanbase because of how social media is. Social media is a toxic environment as a whole no matter what the topic is. It's very easy to spot the people who are in bad faith. And when you do come across them, just don't interact or engage them. All to often they're given a voice because "star wars fans are so toxic!" is a bankable headline to get clicks. And that's what it is all about, clicks.

It's ok for fans to hold Disney to a high standard. Especially with star wars. Just because I thought the Acolyte was mostly terrible, doesn't mean I'm toxic. It was a poorly written, directed and produced show that cost a fortune. That's why it was cancelled. Not because the toxic fandom hated it being female centric or had minority leads.

 

[G00fyDad]

Maybe just stay away from FB and social media in general? It is all toxic.

No. It's fun to toss in a comment about what I like in a Star Wars project and watch the shark frenzy.

Besides, the way I look at it is this, it is a work of fiction and I did not go into the movie/tv production field so I do not get to gripe and complain about a work of fiction and the direction they take the projects. I do not look at them as if they are documentaries but too many do. Would I have preferred they go with the Yuuzhan Vong storyline with Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin? Yes? Did I freak out over the simplistic storyline they did go with? No. I went to the theater and watched the tv shows as a means of entertainment.

 

[Phroobar]

No. It's fun to toss in a comment about what I like in a Star Wars project and watch the shark frenzy.

Besides, the way I look at it is this, it is a work of fiction and I did not go into the movie/tv production field so I do not get to gripe and complain about a work of fiction and the direction they take the projects. I do not look at them as if they are documentaries but too many do. Would I have preferred they go with the Yuuzhan Vong storyline with Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin? Yes? Did I freak out over the simplistic storyline they did go with? No. I went to the theater and watched the tv shows as a means of entertainment.

You're an agent of chaos.

 

[Screamface]

There's so much embracing a shared love of Star Wars online. It's ridiculous. It just isn't for the majority of crap Disney put out under the brand.

Most of the fandom was disappointed with Kenobi but still want them to take another try because of how much they love the characters and hope for something good. That's nothing but positivity for Star Wars. Not liking how they handled a show isn't toxic. It's being a fan and not a consumer.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

The "toxic" fandom of the prequels is what led GL to selling the entire franchise. The fandom also is what made GL a billionaire.

 

[Disney Irish]

The "toxic" fandom of the prequels is what led GL to selling the entire franchise. The fandom also is what made GL a billionaire.

It’s a double-edge sword that cuts both ways.

 

[Phroobar]

The "toxic" fandom of the prequels is what led GL to selling the entire franchise. The fandom also is what made GL a billionaire.

Which was infiltrated by Disney fan boys in order to get GL to sell out to Disney.