NFL 2012- Name your team!!!

[acishere]

Beyonce was at least better than Madonna and the Black Eyed Peas...

I'm just glad Ray Rice dropping the ball didn't completely screw the Ravens. Rutgers players have a tendency to screw up and do things like that toward the end of the game.

Flacco deserves MVP and the 49ers should of knocked out the power much sooner if they wanted to win.

Now everyone please keep your distance from Jim Harbaugh for your own safety.

 

[WDWNooby]

I for one really enjoyed the game last night. What I thought was going to be a blow out just as the second half started turned out to be a nail biter. In my eyes, that's how to power teams should play a big game. The power outage certainly played havoc on the game.

One high point for me, sorry 9ers fans, was when Kaepernick was intercepted and the subsequent plays where he was sacked. All I kept thinking was "a little humility moment" each time. Anyway, great game. Congratulations Ravens fans!

 

[unkadug]

Beyonce was at least better than Madonna and the Black Eyed Peas...

I'm just glad Ray Rice dropping the ball didn't completely screw the Ravens. Rutgers players have a tendency to screw up and do things like that toward the end of the game.

Flacco deserves MVP and the 49ers should of knocked out the power much sooner if they wanted to win.

Now everyone please keep your distance from Jim Harbaugh for your own safety.

I disagree...I thought both of them put on a better show both musically and technically.

The only thing that Beyonce did that I had not seen done before at the Super Bowl was the raising of the lighted dance floor to make a backdrop.

 

[captainkidd]

There is holding on every single play in every single football game in the NFL....tell me I am wrong? Loser talk...really.What about the three plays before that?.....I also noticed you never mentioned how the lights going out absolutely killed the Ravens momentum, but yet you pick one holding non call? Seriously? Saying that would have made the difference in the game is the same as saying if Lee Evans held on to the ball last year the Patriots would have never even went to the Super Bowl....that too is loser talk. The Ravens are the Super Bowl Champs...They earned it fair and square....to say anything else is just loser talk.

I didn't say they didn't earn it. I'm just saying that was a horribly blown, missed call. Holding is one thing. That was holding, illegal contact and pass interference all rolled into one, and it happened right in front of the official's eyes. Bizarre he didn't call it. But no, the Ravens turned things around and really got their act together. Like you said, the Niners did nothing on the previous 3 plays.

I don't care about the power going out. Nothing to do with the game. It shouldn't have affected the Ravens anymore than the 49ers. Though, we all know, if the Niners had won that game, all we'd be hearing from Ravens fans is "Well, if the power hadn't gone out, blah blah blah...."

That being said, the Niners had 1st and goal and couldn't get the ball in the end zone. Pretty bad. With Lewis gone, now I can say I don't hate the Ravens, and I have a lot more respect now for Flaaco and Harbaugh. I'm glad they won it as I don't want to hear about another 49ers dynasty, because there will not be. In fact, I'd be shocked if either of these 2 teams make it back to the big game next year. My early prediction for next year is the Packers and Broncos. I'd like to say it's the Pats, but until they show me they can show up and play for 60 whole minutes in a big game, I don't see them winning it again.

 

[captainkidd]

What a loser Frank Gore is:

NEW ORLEANS -- The San Francisco 49ers were unable to finish the job against the Baltimore Ravens in Super Bowl XLVII. Not everyone in the Niners' locker room was ready to accept the loss.

They got away with one," running back Frank Gore said, via The Associated Press. "We showed we were the better team. It was just a couple plays here, a couple plays there."
The 49ers fell behind 28-6 early in the third quarter before mounting a furious comeback that ultimately fell short. Gore certainly did his part, finishing with 110 yards and a touchdown on 19 carries.
Gore also had the Niners' final play of substance, a 33-yard run around the left end that set up San Francisco with first-and-goal from the Ravens' 7-yard line with just over two minutes to play.
The Niners had four cracks at the end zone, but they didn't get it done. It was the defensive stand that showed the Ravens were the better team. Gore obviously doesn't agree.

I still say, the non-call in the end zone was a joke, but to say the Niners were the better team is ridiculous. They played decently in the second half, but refs don't decide games. If you're a better team, you don't need the refs to make a call in your favor. Do it on your own and you don't have to worry about the refs.

 

[ScoutN]

As someone who rides. This got me. Not afraid to say it.

 

[flynnibus]

Wow. Wonder how much the sideline official made in bets not to call the holding in the end zone at the end of the Niners last drive. That was pretty bad. However, it's fitting that a season that was tarnished in the beginning by horrible calls ended with one.

Uhh.. did you watch the whole game? They were not calling contact like that all game (nor illegal picks either). The play was consistent with the calling of the rest of the game.. letting them play. The offense initiated the contact and was literally pushing off his helmet. So there is no victim there.

If you want bad calls.. how about the mugging of Flacco OUT OF BOUNDS? No PF called there.. and a few others.

For the most part they 'let them play' - for both sides. Note the lack of holding calls and any calls on the secondary (there was only one PI call).

 

[ScoutN]

For the most part they 'let them play' - for both sides. Note the lack of holding calls and any calls on the secondary (there was only one PI call).

Reminiscent of NASCAR's "Boys Have At It!"

 

[captainkidd]

Uhh.. did you watch the whole game? They were not calling contact like that all game (nor illegal picks either). The play was consistent with the calling of the rest of the game.. letting them play. The offense initiated the contact and was literally pushing off his helmet. So there is no victim there.

If you want bad calls.. how about the mugging of Flacco OUT OF BOUNDS? No PF called there.. and a few others.

For the most part they 'let them play' - for both sides. Note the lack of holding calls and any calls on the secondary (there was only one PI call).

Flaaco was not "mugged" out of bounds. He was well out of the pocket and as such is open to be hit the way anyone else would be. He may have been pushed a bit late, but that crap always happens. If anyone should have been flagged with a PF it was the Ravens player who shoved the referee during one of the melees. I'm sure he'll be fined, but little good that does the 49ers.

I know you can't stand when people don't agree with you, but google it. Many people thought the last no call was bogus.

And before you start putting words into my mouth, that's not why the 49ers lost. They couldn't convert on the previous 3 plays either. I just think it was a bad miss. There are always going to be missed calls, but that one was very blatant to me. They called the Niners for pass interference earlier in the 4th quarter. There was another play where they could have EASILY called on offensive pass interference on the Ravens, and they let it go. Not being a fan of either team, I can't recall the names. Don't think it was Bouldin or Smith, but the Ravens receiver was all over the back of the Niners safety before the ball got there, and nothing was called. It seemed very one-sided in terms of calls. If I remember correctly, the Ravens were flagged just once while the 49ers were flagged 7 times.

I have nothing wrong with "letting them play", but when you've got a play that could decide the outcome of a game and there's an obvious penalty, you just gotta call it. The rules don't go out the window because it's the Super Bowl.

 

[flynnibus]

Flaaco was not "mugged" out of bounds. He was well out of the pocket and as such is open to be hit the way anyone else would be

Out of the pocket has nothing to do with hitting a player out of bounds
Out of the pocket has nothing to do with roughing the passer - it has to do with if they are acting as a runner or passer. He wasn't a runner, he was scrambling laterally (even backwards)

I point you to an article covering the redskins initiating questions on this just this fall:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...carl-johnson-quarterback-protections/1644987/

He may have been pushed a bit late, but that crap always happens

He wasn't pushed - he was hit, a hit that started after the pass and out of bounds. That is called almost all the time, especially when its a quarterback.

It's sad that the ref gave the 49s punter more bubble with his nice falling act than the QB out of bounds.

I know you can't stand when people don't agree with you, but google it. Many people thought the last no call was bogus.

I'm well aware of what a lot of people think. I also think the Hall of Fame players on the NFL desk are qualified to call it as 'no call' and the right call (Marshall Faulk, Deion Sanders and others).

And before you start putting words into my mouth, that's not why the 49ers lost. They couldn't convert on the previous 3 plays either. I just think it was a bad miss. There are always going to be missed calls, but that one was very blatant to me. They called the Niners for pass interference earlier in the 4th quarter. There was another play where they could have EASILY called on offensive pass interference on the Ravens, and they let it go
Not being a fan of either team, I can't recall the names. Don't think it was Bouldin or Smith, but the Ravens receiver was all over the back of the Niners safety before the ball got there, and nothing was called. It seemed very one-sided in terms of calls. If I remember correctly, the Ravens were flagged just once while the 49ers were flagged 7 times.

Like I said, the PI call was the ONLY call against the secondary in the entire game.

And your facts are off - The ravens were flagged three times (2 enforced), the 49s 7 times (5 enforced). And when one goes back and sees not a SINGLE holding call the entire game.. you know they were letting them play. The majority of the calls against the 49s were not even 'judgement' calls they were calls like offsides.

The 49s

• were offsides three times
• called for a blatent facemask
• illegal formation
• roughness (from the scrum.. which was offsetting)
• one PI call

It doesn't take a genius to look at this and understand the refs were letting the lines and secondary play. This was clear early in the game. The LAST thing you want is inconsistent refs. They were consistent for this aspect of the game.

I have nothing wrong with "letting them play", but when you've got a play that could decide the outcome of a game and there's an obvious penalty, you just gotta call it. The rules don't go out the window because it's the Super Bowl.

Consistency is more important so the players know what they are playing within. And if it were so obvious.. there would be a consensus on the play.. and there isn't.. because Crabtree was just as involved and the amount of contact was what you see frequently, especially in this game.

 

[Figgy1]

Is it too late to put a C-note on the Ravens?

 

[captainkidd]

Flynn, as always, you are right about everything. I didn't read your post, but there can simply be no other way.

 

[flynnibus]

Flynn, as always, you are right about everything. I didn't read your post, but there can simply be no other way.

Your #1 defense..

Some of us prefer to be informed - some obviously prefer just to filter to what they want to hear.

 

[captainkidd]

Your #1 defense..

Some of us prefer to be informed - some obviously prefer just to filter to what they want to hear.

Yes - You. You filter out anyone and everyone's opinion whose might differ from yours. Whether it be football, Disney, movies - Anything. Thank the lord we aren't allowed to have religious or political discussions on this forum.

 

[flynnibus]

Yes - You. You filter out anyone and everyone's opinion whose might differ from yours.

The issue if you can't distinguish facts from opinion. Your opinions are based on WRONG FACTS - and when shown those facts you claim its people don't want to hear your opinion. You're right.. I don't listen to opinions based on ignorance of the facts. Facts were listed, and you chose not to read them. And you blame me for filtering? Pfft.. This coming from the guy who thinks Brady doesn't have a rep for complaining to the refs.

You should change your username to BubbleBoy.

 

[captainkidd]

The issue if you can't distinguish facts from opinion. Your opinions are based on WRONG FACTS - and when shown those facts you claim its people don't want to hear your opinion. You're right.. I don't listen to opinions based on ignorance of the facts. Facts were listed, and you chose not to read them. And you blame me for filtering? Pfft.. This coming from the guy who thinks Brady doesn't have a rep for complaining to the refs.

You should change your username to BubbleBoy.

I know. Your opinions are facts. Everyone else's opinion is only right if it concurs with yours. Your "facts" are off too. It wasn't the 49ers punter, it was their kicker. I just don't see the need to nitpick details and try and make people look bad to prove a point. As I said, "if I remember correctly." You take every post and dissect it and try to use it against people. I was stating my opinion about a lousy football game, and you have to start bringing up stats that anyone could look up if they really cared enough to. Thing is, no one else here would bother to do that, especially to make someone else look bad. For some reason, you seem to get off on such things.

You should change your username to CaptainOblivious.

 

[plaz10]

What a loser Frank Gore is:

I still say, the non-call in the end zone was a joke, but to say the Niners were the better team is ridiculous. They played decently in the second half, but refs don't decide games. If you're a better team, you don't need the refs to make a call in your favor. Do it on your own and you don't have to worry about the refs.

I am surprised the 49ers even made it a close game - I thought Baltimore was going to blow them out all along. The Ravens were absolutely the better team last night - but I understand where Frank is coming from...I'm sure that Mark Sanchez is like "we are a better team than so and so but tonight they wanted it more" or whatnot. Everyone THINKS they're team is better - but this year only the Ravens can say it.

(and as Steeler fan it does pain me to say that...but at least the 49ers don't have as many superbowls as the Steelers!)

 

[flynnibus]

I know. Your opinions are facts. Everyone else's opinion is only right if it concurs with yours. Your "facts" are off too. It wasn't the 49ers punter, it was their kicker

Sorry, yes a slip up there about exchanging punter/kicker. An immaterial difference to the discussion. I was referring to your comments about the personal foul against the QB. You said he was out of the pocket so it doesn't matter. That is an opinion based on your incorrect understanding of the rules - which are facts. I pointed them out to you, including the league's interpretation of them. But as usual, you prefer to pick and chose what you read.

You take every post and dissect it and try to use it against people

Every conclusion is based on assertions. The way you disprove a conclusion is by proving the assertions incorrect or how the conclusion is connected to the assertions. Otherwise it's just two opinions with no way of ever supporting either.

Or I can just say 'you're wrong' and walk away. But I show a methodical way to show how you are wrong and you can't handle your points being disected and shown for what they are.

I was stating my opinion about a lousy football game, and you have to start bringing up stats that anyone could look up if they really cared enough to. Thing is, no one else here would bother to do that, especially to make someone else look bad. For some reason, you seem to get off on such things.

Funny - they are stats anyone could look up if they cared to - but you refuse to do so and instead prefer to spout with ignorance as your ally. You get upset when someone who calls you out on your errors. A simple solution would be to just take the effort to be informed. But some prefer the sand...

 

[flynnibus]

I am surprised the 49ers even made it a close game - I thought Baltimore was going to blow them out all along. The Ravens were absolutely the better team last night - but I understand where Frank is coming from...I'm sure that Mark Sanchez is like "we are a better team than so and so but tonight they wanted it more" or whatnot. Everyone THINKS they're team is better - but this year only the Ravens can say it.

I can't believe they didn't run there! I think that's what Gore is probably more upset about. But their clock management was relatively poor through the second half which didn't help their urgency. Needing 4 scores to get the lead.. and they were running the clock down to <5 most of the time.

 

[captainkidd]

Funny - they are stats anyone could look up if they cared to - but you refuse to do so and instead prefer to spout with ignorance as your ally. You get upset when someone who calls you out on your errors. A simple solution would be to just take the effort to be informed. But some prefer the sand...

I don't get upset at all. I see the way you talk to people. As my father as always told me, "Consider the source."

As for your Flaaco theory, I didn't say the hit wasn't against the rules. I simply stated that since he was out of the pocket, he can be treated the same as any other offensive player. Getting hit out of bounds is a play that happens all the time, and sometimes it's called, sometimes it isn't. I'm not questioning the legality of the rule. I was merely pointing out that once the QB is out of the pocket and making forward progress, he is no different than any other player on the field. You said he was mugged. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. As you yourself stated, the refs were letting them play, hence Cary Williams shoving the referee and not getting flagged for it.

Again, you're putting words into my mouth.