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New "Ultra Value" Hotels?

SeminoleVators

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Original Poster
I know Universal is opening the new Endless Summer Resorts- any chance disney will try to open an Ultra-Value resort like this?
 

SeminoleVators

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Original Poster
What about another normal-value resort? Any insiders hear anything about this? I also Disney getting a Ritz-Carlton-style hotel soon, but the Four Seasons might have done that.
 

tigerlight

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In a way, the real answer to this question is YES. Once the Gondola opens, Pop Century and AoA will be a level above the All Stars, making All Stars the "Ultra Value" WDW option.

But in terms of building something cheaper than the All Stars, I doubt it. Universal is playing a different ballgame all together when it comes to hotels... First, unlike Disney, they don't own OR operate the hotels (Loews does) - Universal simply gets a cut of the revenues in exchange for letting Loews build on their property and use the Universal name. What the hotels accomplish for Universal is a captive audience of out-of-town people who spend lots more time in their parks and stores (where Universal really makes money) and away from Disney.....
 

Jon81uk

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Effectivly with AoA and Pop getting access to the gondola and therefore being the more premium value option, this means the All-Star resorts are the "ultra-value" option. But Endless Summer by Universal will still be significantly cheaper.
 

Tom P.

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Even now, with all the price increases, you can find a value resort room for just a little more than $100 per night, depending on the time of year you go and what promotions they are offering. I can't imagine Disney ever offering on property resort rooms for less than that.

As to building new value resorts, I certainly hope so, and I expect they eventually will. I may be in the minority in thinking that. But they are doing their first "moderate" DVC resort. I think they will circle back to the values eventually. Especially since, as others have said, AoA and Pop are about to get a lot more popular with the gondola system.
 

dreamfinder

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You mean a warehouse type structure with cots and a shared common bathroom facility like at a gym? Nah, can't see that. And by alot of guesses, WDW is going to move away from the various tiering of resort types as they add the gondola and make other change that blur the commonly accepted lines.
 

Tom P.

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I am not very familiar with Universal at all, so please forgive me if this is common knowledge or has been discussed before. But what is the typical price point of Cabana Bay and what is expected to be the price point for Endless Summer?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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I am not very familiar with Universal at all, so please forgive me if this is common knowledge or has been discussed before. But what is the typical price point of Cabana Bay and what is expected to be the price point for Endless Summer?
I believe cabana bay runs 150-250 typically...regular price.

So more or less moderate WDW type place with value pricing.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
I am not very familiar with Universal at all, so please forgive me if this is common knowledge or has been discussed before. But what is the typical price point of Cabana Bay and what is expected to be the price point for Endless Summer?
August 5-6, 2019:

Endless Summer Standard room $149
Endless Summer 2 Bedroom Suite $224
Cabana Bay: $199
All Star Movie $147
AOA Suite: $404
 

Tony the Tigger

Premium Member
August 5-6, 2019:

Endless Summer Standard room $149
Endless Summer 2 Bedroom Suite $224
Cabana Bay: $199
All Star Movie $147
AOA Suite: $404
I can’t see $147 for All Star anything. $75-$80 max or you can get a really nice non-Disney hotel for $147.

Heck, I’m going to CBR in a few days for $129, and our last stay at AKL in Sept 2017 was around $225.

Gotta shop budget!
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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I can’t see $147 for All Star anything. $75-$80 max or you can get a really nice non-Disney hotel for $147.

Heck, I’m going to CBR in a few days for $129, and our last stay at AKL in Sept 2017 was around $225.

Gotta shop budget!
Caribbean is only worth $125-150...I can’t stress that more.

All Star is about $100

Deluxes vary...but since they’ve had Bigtime trouble selling them for 10+ years...it’s closer to $300 than $600...

This is a Disney board...so it would be a hard sell here....but the pricing structure is out of whack. They do a good job of selling “out of whack”, however
 

ratherbeinwdw

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August 5-6, 2019:

Endless Summer Standard room $149
Endless Summer 2 Bedroom Suite $224
Cabana Bay: $199
All Star Movie $147
AOA Suite: $404
I have never seen Cabana Bay anywhere near that price. It must have been a peak season or something. They always have a discount. The most I've ever seen for an AP is 99.00. We stay at Sapphire Falls, which is so much better than most every resort at Disney, for 127.00 to 167.00 I've even gotten it for 119.00. This place is beautiful, clean, has a huge, well stocked fitness center with a sauna in the women's and men's locker rooms. It has meeting rooms, upscale bar, room service, Starbucks, covered parking, game room, etc. The pool is massive. It has water taxi service straight to the parks, with security at the dock saving time. And, important to us, they only allow dogs in certain rooms. My daughter has a couple of videos on YouTube with tours of Sapphire Falls.
 
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