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New Titles and Positions Announced including Jim MacPhee
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jt04
Well-Known Member
OK, this is from a consumer at Disney Parks, never been employed by the mouse or any of it's affiliates. I look at Disneyland's 50th Anniversary and the remake of DCA as "sweeping dramatic returns to classic values". They happened and are happening under Jay R.'s watch, so why is everyone so convinced it will never happen at WDW?
As a customer, I don't care about PI. It had it's heyday but the revitilized Marketplace proved there was a better model. Disney is just expanding the Marketplace and I, as a Disney guest, absolutely see the logic of it.
Now I think rebuilding the AC (or a similar concept) at one of the resorts or AK is an awesome idea.
So please, why is everyone so convinced a DCA makeover is impossible when I look at pictures of it happening everyday? And why isn't WDW going to receive some major investment as jedimaster says? Something just doesn't make sense or I am missing the big picture. :veryconfu:veryconfu:veryconfu
I will say I was wrong and gladly eat crow
Giraffe Lounge
Member
Any rumblings yet of the high-profile Imagineer who's departure was supposed to be announced today?
Oh lord please don't get me started on the boondoggle that was the 50th. anniversary celebration.
How is DHS a "sweeping dramatic return to classic values"??? By adding a c-ticket clone and throwing in an (ultra inappropriate) American Idol tie-in?
Do you know why DCA is getting a reinvestment becaues the park was a complete and utter failure and they were finally forced to do something about it before the park became completly unprofitable. It was a huge uphill battle to finally get some money to fix it btw. Matt Ouimet tried and failed and it was John Lasseter who finally got the funds coming in thanks to his relationship with the largest shareholder, Steve Jobs. Even then the budget is inadaquate to what was needed to truely remake the park so all you get of this is a slightly better paradise pier, a proper Disney enterance, and some new great cartoon attractions. If the park was built right in the first place like Tokyo Disenysea was they wouldnt have had to do this now.
WDW is not getting a major investment because the truth is Disney (Rasolu, Iger, Staggs, all the way down..) feel that the resort is in a mature market state and that for all intents and purpose the parks are "complete". Sure they figure every so many years they can do a relatively inexpensive refurb to "freshen up the parks" but to these guys the only new revenue they feel they can get from the property is by building up timeshares and licensing out the land to 3rd party companies.
Tim G
Well-Known Member
The shareholders???
Errr... Yes and No...
The one with the most shares is on the board...
Tim G
Well-Known Member
As always...
jt04
Well-Known Member
Sorry I meant DCA when I said DHS, and although I am encouraged by how AI has been received, I was discouraged that instead of bulldozing the BT they "plussed" it. It really is confusing as to where WDW is going. I see good signs and bad signs. One thing is for sure, I won't be going back until a new E ticket is announced. :lookaroun
Animaniac93-98
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Pioneer Hall
Well-Known Member
For the comment about the shareholders...
The shareholders do get a voice in this....but not a direct one.
The shareholders pick the board of directors every year. By picking the board, you decide that these people are the individuals that are going to make the right moves for the company. This includes upper management decisions, which of course then affect lower decisions like park VP's.
So the shareholders get a voice, but if we picked everyone for every position there would be no point for upper management in a company.
The shareholders do get a voice in this....but not a direct one.
The shareholders pick the board of directors every year. By picking the board, you decide that these people are the individuals that are going to make the right moves for the company. This includes upper management decisions, which of course then affect lower decisions like park VP's.
So the shareholders get a voice, but if we picked everyone for every position there would be no point for upper management in a company.
Lee
Adventurer
He could do it. John L. could too.
In some ways, Steve and Jay are polar opposites.
Be fun to turn them against each other.
Tim G
Well-Known Member
Sorry to say... but sometimes I doubt the intelligence of some forum members...
About 2 years ago I warned everyone, this was bound to happen...
Then I was called crazy, stupid and ignorant...
And look what is happening ...
Again... Slowly, but surely the name PIXAR is moving in... there's only ONE man responsible for this...
And the name is Steve Jobs...
Not his leading puppets, (names: Iger and Lasseter)
This "little" trio will bring The Walt Disney Company to distruction...
About 2 years ago I warned everyone, this was bound to happen...
Then I was called crazy, stupid and ignorant...
And look what is happening ...
Again... Slowly, but surely the name PIXAR is moving in... there's only ONE man responsible for this...
And the name is Steve Jobs...
Not his leading puppets, (names: Iger and Lasseter)
This "little" trio will bring The Walt Disney Company to distruction...
HMF
Well-Known Member
Again A LOT of money is going into DCA.Do you have a source? Or is this just more of your random negative speculation?
While I understand that it is cool to hate DVC right now, it is a good program that can benefit both the consumer and the company.
The math is all there for anyone who cares to sit through a presentation and is spelled out pretty simply.
DVC doesn't take money away from WDW. Two seperate departments, two seperate budgets. If you think DVC is taking away from WDW, you might as well start blaming other parts of the company as well.
I wish Disney would stop investing in ESPN and focus on WDW more...
tirian
Well-Known Member
DL's 50th Refurbs HAD to be done because years of poor management—also under Rasulo's watch—meant that the resort was falling apart. I mean, it was LITERALLY falling apart. A section of Space Mt. went kerplunk. The Tiki room was riddled with termite damage. At one point, DL's entire castle was covered with tarp boxes because so much had to be refurbished and reconstructed, they couldn't let Guests see what it looked like. At the time resort VPs had more power than they do now, and Matt Ouimet was able to convince company execs that the resort needed a lot of work. Also, with all Eisner's ego-centric faults, he did have the common sense to see that Pressler/Harris had destroyed DL; and he gave Matt the go-ahead to get the necessary stuff done.
Times have changed. The VPs don't have as much power as they used to, and Iger is content to let Rasulo run the parks. Rasulo is a good snake oil salesman: he has pulled in consistently higher numbers since he took over parks and resorts. But he doesn't understand his product, a death knell for leadership in the creative industry. DL and WDW are nothing more than Disney Parks to him—part of the House That Walt Built whose nostalgic factor still drives attendance. Sadly, the parks are simply numbers for Rasulo, which means that he doesn't take personal interest in them. This leadership style stunts and sometimes destroys creative companies, because the industry requires heart. That may seem like a silly or juvenile thing to say, but it's true—creative industries only thrive when the leadership takes personal interest in their purpose, not just their numbers (but that's important too).
Rasulo would probably make a great banker, but he's too unimaginative for the theme park industry, let alone one that's known for pushing creativity to its highest level. He was lucky enough to be put in charge of a thriving business that other people's blood, sweat, tears, and dreams created.
The company can always bounce back, and I'm not predicting doom and gloom for the parks; but marketing campaigns and magic/pixie dust hype are not long-term business plans.
EDIT: WDW is going to receive a large investment; Jedimaster isn't lying or being naive. The timing, however, is up in the air. I think many people are upset because they were hoping for new leadership altogether.
jedimaster1227
Active Member
It is far better to keep him in place at a park where there is very little that he could shoot down in the long run. The projects set for Magic Kingdom go beyond his jurisdiction, so he really won't have a choice in the matter. Under the new bi-coastal structure, certain projects will be guaranteed their place in both resorts.
Thank you for that amazing summary of the past through the present! I nearly spit out my coke when I saw it. :ROFLOL:
I'm sure you know nothing of what anyone here has accused you of being, eh?
Once I'm back in Orlando, I think it will finally be time to fill the mods in on your true identity. I've verified it with others, and frankly, its been too long seeing you here under another guise. If I am wrong, I will gladly admit to it, but I honestly doubt that it will happen with the current [positive] direction the company is heading in in terms of park developments.
Sure you will...
If you are banned again by that time, I hope you eat crow under another guise, likely one about The Joker. :lol:
HMF
Well-Known Member
It's been so bad we can't even call it by its real name.:animwink:
SirGoofy
Member
I guess that's true. I'm glad to hear he can't stop what's coming.
Tim G
Well-Known Member
I'm always present at the shareholders meeting... And I always vote
I certainly did NOT pick this board... I didn't have any say in this...
Steve Jobs picked the board...
With the amount of shares he has... there's nothing left to say...
And we all (except Marty, I and some others of the creative group) were "so very happy" with the new CEO...
DUMBOS...
And now everyone is whining about the coming changes... :lookaroun