peter11435
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Really? Because I can think of many.
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Daveeeeed
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Thanks for the laugh! As expected.
GhostHost1000
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Sordicampos
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I think Disney will rush it before Universal uses this tecnology to connect the current resort to the new park they will probably start building soon.
21stamps
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At least that's an idea for a reason.
I wasn't joking.. honestly what would be the benefit for Disney to spend money on something like this?
I didn't read thru all of the pages.. maybe someone already answered the question?
Sordicampos
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I think it is also a way to justify deluxe prices for Caribbean Beach once the resort adds DVC and maybe resort fees.
Major changes coming to CBR likely with DVC. Major expansion of DHS coming. Rumor of significant updates to Epcot. All of this calls for improvements to the transportation options between these locations. This type of system could provide efficient, and "cooler", transportation to these locations at a much lower cost then a monorail expansion
lazyboy97o
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Pop! Century and Art of Animation wouldn't make such a jump. It's just transportation. Has nothing to do with Universal Orlando Resort or justifying timeshares.
PizzaPlanet
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That would make the resort feel more connected, as you wouldn't have to drive off property to get from park to park. The only downside is that Universal can't conrol all of the area it passes through, and they might have to jump through some hoops in order to build gondolas on that land.
andysol
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So they can put it on their list of resort fees. You wanted something new to justify it...
andysol
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Sigh. Every move Disney has done has been as a response to universal and their imminent threat to taking away business. Or do you think they spent the most they've spent in 15 years last year out of the goodness of their hearts (and are projected to spend almost double that this year)
We're all winners for it, but we'd still be seeing the remains of camp Minnie Mickey if it weren't for the boy wizard.
As a side note- I Love that this is now a universal vs Disney thread.
21stamps
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I agree. I wasn't agreeing with that poster, but at least he tried to come up with an idea.
Ok, but we all know that Disney is not having problems booking rooms. Guests at that resort have the option of Uber Lyft Taxi Bus or their own car.
For Disney to build a gondola, where/how would the recoup the money? They already have the occupancy, so do they raise the price drastically? Raise it to where it matches some of the deluxe resorts in price?
I just think it seems unlikely.
It's possible for Caribbean Beach since we are hearing that it's going to get a significant overhaul.
There seems little doubt at this point that this is happening so they must know that it's worth it.
21stamps
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But enough of an overhaul to justify a multi million dollar transportation system?
Just seems like a lot to spend for little return.
You honestly believe current Disney management would build this without seeing that they can get a return on the investment?
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1. Gondola Lifts are more efficient at energy, reducing pollution, and actual transportation of people than cars and buses.
2. Though they travel more slowly, they are usually direct and don't have to worry about traffic. Thus, then often wind up to be quicker than buses (and a lot more fun). They are in perpetual motion, like a People Mover, and so, if there ever is a queue to get on one, it's always moving. So much better than the wait at a bus stop where you wonder if the bus will ever arrive.
3. GLs have one tenth the death rate per mile by accidents than that of road vehicles.... so, safer.
4. Even with expanding their parking lot, DHS may have trouble with the number of guests once TSL and SWL open. And if they do any further expansions, even more of a problem. A GL system reduces the number of guests staying at a Disney resort from driving to the resort. There's enough congestion with non-Disney Resort guests, so, incentivizing Disney resort guests to not use their cars is a very good thing.
5. It's cheaper than a monorail or automated ground transportation vehicle system.
6. Guests hate the buses, or, at best, regard them as a necessary evil. The "Disney bubble" becomes much more attractive if you never have to step into one. So, don't bother renting a car. And oh, that probably mean you won't be tempted to go off property.
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Also remember that in the north end of CBR they are removing the current buildings and building a new tower, so this isn't just an upgrade but a total remove and replace.
21stamps
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Hence my original question....lol
But, in current times..Poly is sold out quite frequently. The last 3 times I have checked. And when I tried to extend my stay while a guest there. They aren't having trouble now for sure.
Thank you for typing a thought out response.
Yeah, it just seems like a lot. There isn't a resort that has had anything like that. It's a big investment. Maybe they're willing to take that risk.
zakattack99
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Let's be honest we all know what happened. Disney said they need a new transportation option that is not a bus because belive it or not you can only have so many buses. Someone then suggested expand the monorail look we already have the plans! To which management got a price for and fired the poor imagineer that suggested such a hit to Iger's bonus. Management then continued said process untill they got this idea.
They needed something and this fit the budget im my opinion it's just that simple.
Disney just purchased 50 Gillig Low Floor Buses. At $380,000 each (according to one web site), that's $19 million dollars. And each one needs a bus driver. And is less efficient to operate than a GL.
They'll always need buses as back-ups and for surge demand and for off the beaten track destinations. But I imagine they'd like the most used routes to become as automated and efficient as possible.