News New Gondola Transportation - Disney Skyliner - Every Possible What If ....? Has Been Discussed.

amjt660

Well-Known Member
There’s plenty of space. The new station is only using space previously used by the tram turnaround and berm behind it. Technically it doesn’t even touch the backstage bus road (although the road system is being rationalised)
Marni
I have walked past the tram turnaround a few times and never realized why it was there
Please give me some history on it
Was it to the boardwalk hotels and back?
When was it used?
Any info would be appreciated

Thanks
Max
 

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
although the road system is being rationalised
"Rationalise?" Why are they trying to justify the existence of a road? <goes to dictionary> Oh... Thanks to this, I just learned a usage of 'rationalise' I never knew existed (it seems to be more a Britishism, meaning to 'straighten out in an orderly way')!

There's a lot of things at WDW that need to be rationalised, and not the way the Pixie Dusters do it!
 

Minthorne

Well-Known Member
Marni
I have walked past the tram turnaround a few times and never realized why it was there
Please give me some history on it
Was it to the boardwalk hotels and back?
When was it used?
Any info would be appreciated

Thanks
Max
I don't know the old details but I remember this https://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions/international_gateway/news/07apr2011-former-tram-station-at-epcot's-international-gateway-demolished.htm

and found this

http://mightymenofmouse.blogspot.com/2012/05/1992-tram-from-epcots-international_30.html
 

cosmicgirl

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Marni
I have walked past the tram turnaround a few times and never realized why it was there
Please give me some history on it
Was it to the boardwalk hotels and back?
When was it used?
Any info would be appreciated

Thanks
Max
I was wondering the same thing and ended up here:
Next video in line:
Coincidence? ;)
 

nickys

Premium Member
Marni
I have walked past the tram turnaround a few times and never realized why it was there
Please give me some history on it
Was it to the boardwalk hotels and back?
When was it used?
Any info would be appreciated

Thanks
Max
The tram ran between Swan & Dolphin and YC/BC and The IG along crescent lake.

I remember stumbling across it in 1992 and hopping on it. It's like the tourist trams that run in towns and resorts in the UK and Europe. Been on several. Pity they got rid of it.


I was wondering the same thing and ended up here:
Next video in line:
Coincidence? ;)
Hah! Great minds think alike. I googled it and found the same ones. Now to go watch them .....
 

Mainahman

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We just received this e-mail about our upcoming stay at Pop Century. It will still be under construction on June 16th!

"
February 2018
...

We are delighted you have chosen to stay with us at Disney's Pop Century Resort!
Walt Disney once spoke of how his creations would never be complete as long as there is imagination left in the world. It is in this spirit that we have embarked on creating a new transportation system, Disney Skyliner, which will give Guests a bird’s-eye view of Walt Disney World® Resort while traveling via gondolas. This transportation system will connect future Guests of Disney's Pop Century Resort with Disney’s Hollywood Studios®, the International Gateway at Epcot® and other Resorts.
While we work our magic, the Resort will be in full operation with all amenities available to you, including our dining, merchandise and recreation locations. It is possible that you may see or hear construction, but noise should not be heard from your Guest room between dusk and 9:00am. We apologize for any inconvenience this work may cause and appreciate your patience and understanding. Please know we are making every effort to ensure your comfort and enjoyment.
If you have questions or need assistance prior to your arrival, please call the Disney Reservation Center at 407-939-7805 between the hours of 7:00am-11:00pm (ET).
General Manager Jeff Korte and the team at Disney's Pop Century Resort look forward to your arrival and wish you a truly magical stay!

Sincerely,
Disney Destinations, LLC"
WE check in to POP saturday morning.. i guess they consider the room construction less noisy, as i never got an email like this..
 

allgiggles

Well-Known Member
WE check in to POP saturday morning.. i guess they consider the room construction less noisy, as i never got an email like this..
Maybe it went to your spam folder and you missed it. Or maybe you got it so long ago you forgot about it. I got the same email for our upcoming stay at AoA...it arrived more than 5 months before our check-in date.
 

Seabasealpha1

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So....I know it's a good distance away...but has anyone heard any rumblings about any kind of mass transit (besides busses and minnie-vans) to Animal Kingdom?

In theory, you can get to three out of Four parks fairly well by boat, monorail, or (soon) Skyliner...

AK getting any love?

(not asking about monorail expansion here...I know better...and be nice!)
 

nickys

Premium Member
So....I know it's a good distance away...but has anyone heard any rumblings about any kind of mass transit (besides busses and minnie-vans) to Animal Kingdom?

In theory, you can get to three out of Four parks fairly well by boat, monorail, or (soon) Skyliner...

AK getting any love?

(not asking about monorail expansion here...I know better...and be nice!)
@marni1971 has hinted that there are plans down the line for some kind of link between AKL and AK. Not a monorail (yeah, shocker :joyfull:) or gondola expansion.

There was a discussion about it for a while. Everything from a light railway to a people mover was suggested along the way. I think it may even be buried in this thread somewhere ..... Good luck trying to find it, you could try searching for various permutations of light railway and AKL. :)
 

WDW95

Active Member
I was wondering if anyone had any theories as to why Disney didn't just expand the canal system but instead went for the Skyliner?

It seems as if boat transportation would have been a cheaper alternative and would have been relatively easier to construct than the Skyliner. I bet they could have come up with faster, higher capacity boats that the watercraft they use now. Just seems like a proposal like the one in the attached map would have been the favored option. Thoughts?Disney Canal Map.jpg
 

Brian

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I was wondering if anyone had any theories as to why Disney didn't just expand the canal system but instead went for the Skyliner?

It seems as if boat transportation would have been a cheaper alternative and would have been relatively easier to construct than the Skyliner. I bet they could have come up with faster, higher capacity boats that the watercraft they use now. Just seems like a proposal like the one in the attached map would have been the favored option. Thoughts?View attachment 266910
You mentioned it right there. Boat transportation is perhaps the slowest at WDW. Just look at how long it takes to get from Wilderness Lodge to Magic Kingdom. Plus, this will be a novelty, similar to how the monorail was when it first debuted.
 

davis_unoxx

Well-Known Member
I was wondering if anyone had any theories as to why Disney didn't just expand the canal system but instead went for the Skyliner?

It seems as if boat transportation would have been a cheaper alternative and would have been relatively easier to construct than the Skyliner. I bet they could have come up with faster, higher capacity boats that the watercraft they use now. Just seems like a proposal like the one in the attached map would have been the favored option. Thoughts?View attachment 266910
I agree! Would be a cool means of transportation!
 

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
I was wondering if anyone had any theories as to why Disney didn't just expand the canal system but instead went for the Skyliner?

It seems as if boat transportation would have been a cheaper alternative and would have been relatively easier to construct than the Skyliner. I bet they could have come up with faster, higher capacity boats that the watercraft they use now. Just seems like a proposal like the one in the attached map would have been the favored option. Thoughts?View attachment 266910
What kind of watercraft can move 4k people an hour? You'd need something the size of the Bay Lake ferries departing from a dock once every 10 minutes to rival the gondola lift's pph throughput.
 

peter11435

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I was wondering if anyone had any theories as to why Disney didn't just expand the canal system but instead went for the Skyliner?

It seems as if boat transportation would have been a cheaper alternative and would have been relatively easier to construct than the Skyliner. I bet they could have come up with faster, higher capacity boats that the watercraft they use now. Just seems like a proposal like the one in the attached map would have been the favored option. Thoughts?View attachment 266910
You think that would’ve been cheaper and easier to construct?
 
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nickys

Premium Member
I was wondering if anyone had any theories as to why Disney didn't just expand the canal system but instead went for the Skyliner?

It seems as if boat transportation would have been a cheaper alternative and would have been relatively easier to construct than the Skyliner. I bet they could have come up with faster, higher capacity boats that the watercraft they use now. Just seems like a proposal like the one in the attached map would have been the favored option. Thoughts?View attachment 266910
And the dock that you have on the map is right where all the fireworks are stored.

So whenever they were loading the barges for Illuminations each night, all boats would have had to stop running, even if it was deemed safe to transport large numbers of people through the storage depot at other times.
 

WDW95

Active Member
You think that would’ve been cheaper and easier to construct?
I do believe so. I'm sure the gondola supports have to be driven deeply into the ground to withstand wind load. 5 new gondola stations and the "turning points" are sure to cost a lot of money.

The canals in comparison would be pretty simple - Disney recently dug the huge new retention pound across from DHS by World Drive and Osceola Parkway - the canals required for these boats would have been a much smaller project. There is a long history of Disney creating waterways across the Florida property.
 
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