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News New Gondola Transportation - Disney Skyliner - Every Possible What If ....? Has Been Discussed.

danlb_2000

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
It doesn't directly impact those resorts with a direct stop. It would be easy to walk over to the EPCOT station and take a ride back to DHS but it probably wouldn't be a whole lot faster than the boats. I think earlier the estimate was about 15 mins from EPCOT to DHS on the gondola. I think the friendship boats take about 25 mins to a half hour park to park since they stop and dock at each resort on their way. If you are staying at Swan/Dolphin it's much faster to get to/from DHS since it's the last stop going and the first stop coming home. For BW it should be slightly faster to walk to IG and ride the gondolas and avoid stopping at the other 2 resorts, especially if you have to wait for the boat to arrive.

The gondolas will also provide direct transportation to the Boardwalk itself (via a short walk from IG) for about 7,000 rooms full of guests. It should help business at the restaurants and might make the Boardwalk a little more relevant as an entertainment location.
It will also be good for the restaurants at the Swan and Dolphin.
 

flynnibus

Well-Known Member
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It's more a case of the questioners being lazy and not reading the whole thread. If they did, they'd see it mentioned several times that those stating it as fact are indeed insiders with inside information. There's been about 5 insiders all agreeing it is definitely Gondolas.
Oh I know the sum of the situation- just pointing out why in isolation some may have skepticism about comments. From the start several posters have spoken with authority without really acknowledging they have information outside of what has been shared here. More so than usual no less.
 

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
It will also be good for the restaurants at the Swan and Dolphin.
I'm not sure. How many people at the POP/AoA/CBR/CBR-DVC are going to get off at the IG and then walk to or boat to (boating takes longer) the Swolphin for one of their restaurants? They're good restaurants. Not sure how much they would be considered 'destination restaurants.' I keep recommending to people looking for sit-down meals at DHS to pop out to the Swolphin or the other Crescent Lake resorts for a meal. But the Gondola's route really doesn't help.

Besides, I think the Swolphin restaurants are doing fine on their own because of all the Swolphin conventioneers.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I always get a bit itchy when people talk about BoardWalk as this great destination spot, especially for the nightlife.

BoardWalk Inn, as a deluxe resort, has the same suite of restaurants and shops that any other deluxe resort normally has. The difference is that their amenities are in an outside mall with a lakeside board walk. Sure, that gives their amenities a nice theme and setting, but, that really doesn't make that set of amenities that much better than any other deluxe's amenities.

And "The BoardWalk" is in no way comparable to actual seaside board walks that have games, rides, and attractions. It's a suggestive theme, not an actual description of the kind of place one usually associates with a board walk (especially if your from the Northeast seaside corridor where board walks, such as Coney Island or Atlantic City, are a big thing).

The big difference is the piano bar and dance hall. So basically, this mythic "night life" of BoardWalk is basically just the piano bar and dance hall. It's great that they're there. And fun for those who enjoy it. But, IMO, that hardly makes BoardWalk a 'destination spot' like Disney Springs is.

I'm done with this soap box, anyone want it?
I get what you are saying, but the Boardwalk is under utilized right now. Nobody is saying it should compete with Disney Springs, but it has the potential to be more than it is. Yes, there's a hotel there, but it's also an entertainment area. It was never intended that the restaurants and other entertainment were exclusively for resort guests. Disney has advertised the Boardwalk as a separate entertainment area since it opened.

They have street performers, midway type games and other entertainment but not every night and some things close seasonally. Atlantic Dance Hall is often closed or used for private events. Jelly rolls still seems to do well. There is also the mini-golf course nearby. There is a lot of stuff to do, but it's not that easy to get to for most people staying on property. This will help with that. There's also some good restaurants at BC/YC and Swan/Dolphin that will benefit from the system.
 

thehowiet

Wilson King of Prussia
Premium Member
There may be and it may do. I'm aware of another system type that *may* be built in the future to serve other areas of the property.

Maybe. Waaaayyyyy down the line.
Nice. I assume there isn't much else you can say at the moment, so I'll just say thanks for sharing and that I hope that there is at least a chance it might be WEDway type system :)
 

HauntedMansionFLA

Well-Known Member
The permits confirming this is happening are literally on the first page. Work is about to get underway. I don't know why there is any doubt this is happening. o_O
I know but I thought that Disney would make some sort of grand announcement unless that will be at the D23. I guess they can save it till right after another price increase.
 

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
I know but I thought that Disney would make some sort of grand announcement unless that will be at the D23. I guess they can save it till right after another price increase.
I'm gonna guess that the gondola announcement will be wrapped up with the announcement of the new adjunct CBR DVC project since the gondola will be its big selling point: It's a Deluxe property because it has a dedicated non-bus transport to the parks (a la monorail resorts).
 

Notes from Neverland

Well-Known Member
I get what you are saying, but the Boardwalk is under utilized right now. Nobody is saying it should compete with Disney Springs, but it has the potential to be more than it is. Yes, there's a hotel there, but it's also an entertainment area. It was never intended that the restaurants and other entertainment were exclusively for resort guests. Disney has advertised the Boardwalk as a separate entertainment area since it opened.

They have street performers, midway type games and other entertainment but not every night and some things close seasonally. Atlantic Dance Hall is often closed or used for private events. Jelly rolls still seems to do well. There is also the mini-golf course nearby. There is a lot of stuff to do, but it's not that easy to get to for most people staying on property. This will help with that. There's also some good restaurants at BC/YC and Swan/Dolphin that will benefit from the system.
Adding on, Abracadabar is a fun experience too, albeit very small.
 

msteel

Well-Known Member
Okay. Can I quote you?

Fact: Heat hasn't been the problem. Humidity has. But it's been lowered below the unacceptable threshold.
Since refrigerant based dehumidifiers take similar amounts of energy as AC, are we looking at some sort of desiccant air drying system?
 

RobbinsDad

Well-Known Member
Our most reliable sources have all stated it's gondolas. I am choosing to believe them. But even if by some weird chance they're wrong, please still note the title of this thread:

Possible New Gondola Transportation
:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
 

rushtest4echo

Well-Known Member
@Lift Blog is a poster here, so that's a bit of circular proof.
Well at least there's a lot of supporting evidence that you've based your educated guess on. Better than the typical media- regardless of your flavor- "mainstream/liberal" and "right wing" news republish blogs as news stories without any sourcing, and those blogs usually do their sourcing through comments on a website- so you're as credible or more credible than most of the media at this point. ;)

EDIT: I'm sorry for comparing you to typical media. They don't bother to do investigative journalism at all anymore, so I guess you're way above the quality of their sourcing since Dan and others have in fact investigated these things.
 

creathir

Monorail and PeopleMover Fanatic
Premium Member
Yep.

And switch tracks. And station bypasses. And incline climbing.
So PRT?

Why on earth Disney is not putting in a system like Terminal 5 has, I have NO idea.

Cost is not insane and the benefits would be amazing.
 

creathir

Monorail and PeopleMover Fanatic
Premium Member
Yes. But this system was ready to go in 1978.
Very true.

I would LOVE to see what folks like Roger Broggie could have done had he had the technology we have today.

The limitations of yesteryear with the People Mover could easily have been overcome with the computerization and miniaturization which has happened over the last 30 years.

Guaranteed had those guys been around, along with the management of that time, we wouldn't be talking about a glorified ski-lift as if its some godsend over buses to connect the resorts to the parks.
 
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