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News New Gondola Transportation - Disney Skyliner - Every Possible What If ....? Has Been Discussed.

ImperfectPixie

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This to me is how they stop any misuse of the system if it gets bad.

A simple magic band swipe for hotel guests is all it takes, avoids having to roll parking at DS, and only would be needed in this location.

If someone forgot their band, a CM could easily tap into the res system to lookup hotel/room and validate the guest name using an iPhone/iPad app.
It wouldn't take long for abuse to get bad...people jump at the chance to share "work-arounds" to avoid paying for parking at Disney in the Facebook groups.
 

Aries1975

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It wouldn't take long for abuse to get bad...people jump at the chance to share "work-arounds" to avoid paying for parking at Disney in the Facebook groups.

I recently visited Las Vegas. The malls out there all charge for parking, but exempt Nevada residents. Disney Springs could do (and probably will do) something similar. It was also explained to me that Nevada residents used to be able to park at the casinos for free, but are now charged.

Also, learned the hard way on the rental car (Avis) charge. The convenience fee is $3.95 per day you have the car, even if you only go through one toll the entire 2-weeks you have the car. The rental car companies in Orlando will be thrilled if Disney Springs instituted some type of parking charge through the license plate.

Parking validation usually requires a body. Someone has to see the validated receipt then either modify the ticket or physically raise the bar. In ancient times (according to my children any time before the year 2000 qualifies), my pedestrian would give my mother a token as we were leaving to raise the bar on his lot.
 

joelkfla

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Parking validation usually requires a body. Someone has to see the validated receipt then either modify the ticket or physically raise the bar. In ancient times (according to my children any time before the year 2000 qualifies), my pedestrian would give my mother a token as we were leaving to raise the bar on his lot.
I personally do not think Disney will ever charge for DS parking.

That aside, I'm sure there is technology that can handle validated parking without human intervention at the exit. I avoid paid garages like the plague, but I've read that a garage on I-Drive requires drivers to pay for their parking at walk-up machines before driving to the exit. The validating establishment could simply scan the entry ticket into a linked system, or give the customer a preprinted ticket to use in place of their entry ticket.
 

techgeek

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I recently visited Las Vegas. The malls out there all charge for parking, but exempt Nevada residents. Disney Springs could do (and probably will do) something similar. It was also explained to me that Nevada residents used to be able to park at the casinos for free, but are now charged.

I distinctly remember visiting Vegas in 2002-03 and not paying for parking anywhere on the strip, all the garages were wide open... resident or not.

In a resort setting, I view parking as a nickel and dime annoyance. I think Disney could pick up a tremendous amount of good-will points by dumping parking fees everywhere and rolling it into the gate price. Tickets are so steep now no one would notice an extra $5-8 a day, but getting smacked with $25 when you drive in sure is a magical way to kick off the day. Additional money saved in labor costs chasing after it.

But I find it amusing that the Skyliner thread, of all posts, had turned into the Disney springs parking rehash. I would think Skyliner service to the Springs would actually reduce demand on the parking structures, not create them. But, I don’t think it’s the best mass-transit option for the district. Springs needs better distance connections to MK and AK areas, not local access to resorts already well served by boat or quick shuttles.
 

Goofyernmost

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I have said the same thing many times myself.
I have to wonder though, they just invested many millions in the Disney Springs upgrade to entice retailers there as well as the general public in the area. Their prices are already sky high and because of that I feel that charging for parking would put them back were they were before the upgrade. Unless they have a validation system in place I would think there would be a retailer revolution. Could happen but it doesn't seem like the most prudent way to do business long term and in spite of Disney's lack of concern for long term, those retailers are concerned. They already pay a premium for retail space, I'm sure!
 

FigmentFreak

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Parking validation usually requires a body. Someone has to see the validated receipt then either modify the ticket or physically raise the bar. In ancient times (according to my children any time before the year 2000 qualifies), my pedestrian would give my mother a token as we were leaving to raise the bar on his lot.

No body is necessary for parking validation. Venue near me they have vouchers that they give out and when you exit parking you insert your original ticket followed by the validation voucher.
 

MickeyLuv'r

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Parking validation usually requires a body. Someone has to see the validated receipt then either modify the ticket or physically raise the bar.

Not in 2019. Parking lots use electronic parking validation. It is a matter of scanning one's parking ticket in an electronic ticket reader- once in the store and again when one exits the parking garage. The garage entrances and exits are completely automated.

Now some parking garages do have staff, but the staff are just there - more or less- if the customer loses/mangles their ticket, or has some other relatively unusual problem (no wallet).

In the rare event of a power outage, parking fees are suspended.
 

joelkfla

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Towers are up for Florida gondola lift number four.
2nd photo shows an open-air cabin; 3rd photo shows what looks like a Mark IV with tilt-out windows and ski holders. So I'm assuming the 2nd photo is an actual cabin that's on site (based on the protective wrapping), and the 3rd was just Photo-shopped concept art?

ETA: Maybe not -- I just noticed the warnings in German on the doorstep. So apparently neither cabin image is accurate.
 
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Lift Blog

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2nd photo shows an open-air cabin; 3rd photo shows what looks like a Mark IV with tilt-out windows and ski holders. So I'm assuming the 2nd photo is an actual cabin that's on site (based on the protective wrapping), and the 3rd was just Photo-shopped concept art?

ETA: Maybe not -- I just noticed the warnings in German on the doorstep. So apparently neither cabin image is accurate.
The second photo is an actual cabin on site with the open air option. The german is just a warning not to lift the cabin by that piece during construction. The third image is a rendering. The ski racks are a giveaway.
 
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mgf

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Rode the skyliner Sat 11/16...very impressed. Great experience. So much fun. Rode all 3 lines more than once. Out of CBR...the Epcot line is the most complex by far. Pop and Studios lines out an back seemed simple. EPCOT line....turn station (very nice....)...great views...
Riviera resort turn seems complicated....no ECV line....gondolas come in with occupants (or not)....I can't see how there are not differences from the "simpler" out and back lines.

This struck me as a huge - very weird - operational oversight (or perhaps a choice) - especially at the newest, most expensive resort explicitly on the line. It was so awkward waiting there for the CM to eventually give up on waiting for an empty car and add us to one occupied. The Rivera station is going to load so slowly when the resort is open.
 

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