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News New Gondola Transportation - Disney Skyliner - Every Possible What If ....? Has Been Discussed.

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
We had a grumpy 7-month old on a Minnie Van from MK to POP at park closing last August. I was in the backseat with my baby while my husband (who doesn't know the property as well) was up front. Our drive ended up being 45 minutes because the driver wouldn't shut up. And I am CHATTY. He literally told us about how he was molested as a child, fired from his last job, and more...it was INSANE.

And then I looked up and we were at the All Stars. He was talking so much, he literally forgot where we were staying (I was so focused on my daughter, I wasn't paying attention).

Again, I am my mother's daughter -- I used to be embarrassed by her chattiness on WDW trips (and the grocery store, etc), but now that I'm in my late 30s, I am absolutely her. This guy was just at a another level, though. And I paid $20 for the "privilege" 🤣.

That guys line of conversation wasn't appropriate for park branded transportation.
I'd expect that in a NYC cab, but a Minnie Van?
The driver should have known better.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
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So I know a lot of discussion has been made about heat in these things, but what about cold? Forgive me if it's been posted.
I was in WDW last November with my wife and it got very cold in the evenings. I'm aware the gondolas have vents to allow cross breeze and I assume they can be closed. But closed would they still allow cold air to trickle in during those chilly nights or would they be fairly tight? My wife and I packed clothes for cooler nights, but were still caught a little off guard as to how cold it can get sometimes during those winter months and I would think not many people are packing winter coats for their WDW trip.

Anywho, just a thought. Can't wait to ride these in December! (Yes I shall pack warm!)
They won't be any more cold than the outside air 'cept for whatever air leaks through the window and door weather stripping.
As riders will be dressed to be outside, they'll probably be a bit warmer than outside due to the protection from the wind.
 

Grimley1968

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Anybody notice the three fans next to the center support columns? I assume those are there to "flush" the air in the gondolas between unloading and loading.
I noticed that, too, but am puzzled by the location if that's the purpose. They are on the non-door side of the gondolas. Hopefully some of the fan breeze would get through the vents and the windows if they're open.
 

Disone

Well-Known Member
Anybody notice the three fans next to the center support columns? I assume those are there to "flush" the air in the gondolas between unloading and loading.
IMO The fans are there to circulate the air in the station for the people who are there. All day long. It's really not for the gondolas.

I know I know.... I'm wrong, :) , but moving air makes you feel cooler.
 

Disone

Well-Known Member
Anybody notice the three fans next to the center support columns? I assume those are there to "flush" the air in the gondolas between unloading and loading.
IMO The fans are there to circulate the air in the station for the people who are there. All day long. It's really not for the gondolas.

I know I know.... I'm wrong, :) , but moving air makes you feel cooler.
 

creathir

Monorail and PeopleMover Fanatic
Premium Member
Anybody notice the three fans next to the center support columns? I assume those are there to "flush" the air in the gondolas between unloading and loading.
They have the same fans over on the Pop station as well. We’ve been told it is to help mitigate the lack of airflow while the gondolas are not moving quickly through the station.
 

joelkfla

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Anybody notice the three fans next to the center support columns? I assume those are there to "flush" the air in the gondolas between unloading and loading.
That's what I had thought when they were first photographed at Pop. But in this photo, you can see that they're just above floor level -- too low for the window opposite the cabin doors, and too high for the floor vents. So now I;m not sure.
 

Disone

Well-Known Member
They have the same fans over on the Pop station as well. We’ve been told it is to help mitigate the lack of airflow while the gondolas are not moving quickly through the station.
I can't really imagine that is really the design. First, the fans are on the wrong side. Second the gondola is not in front of the fans for long enough to be effective even if they were on the correct side.
 

tractor tipper

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I can't really imagine that is really the design. First, the fans are on the wrong side. Second the gondola is not in front of the fans for long enough to be effective even if they were on the correct side.
If I remember correctly POP fans are mounted high while these are low.
 

tonymu

Premium Member
Interesting tidbit about hours of operation from Blog Mickey....

"First, Cast Members will earn a starting hourly wage of $12/hour, moving up to $13/hour when the system opens on September 29th.

The second new piece of information, and perhaps the most interesting is the hours that Cast will be expected to work. Keep in mind that this position is considered a guest-facing position (read: not maintenance). According to the job listing, Cast Members will be asked to not only work first and second shifts, but also third shift where applicable. Disney goes on to list hours “as early as 5am” and “as late as 3am, 4am, or 5am”. Disney notes that the Walt Disney World Resort operates 24 hours a day, even if the parks aren’t open. Now, that’s not to say that the gondolas will operate 24 hours a day, because they likely won’t. That said, Disney looks to be anticipating long hours, if not for the Cast Members alone."

Seems that the gondolas will operate beyond park hours to serve resorts and possibly Boardwalk dining and entertainment.
 

DisneyOutsider

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Interesting tidbit about hours of operation from Blog Mickey....

"First, Cast Members will earn a starting hourly wage of $12/hour, moving up to $13/hour when the system opens on September 29th.

The second new piece of information, and perhaps the most interesting is the hours that Cast will be expected to work. Keep in mind that this position is considered a guest-facing position (read: not maintenance). According to the job listing, Cast Members will be asked to not only work first and second shifts, but also third shift where applicable. Disney goes on to list hours “as early as 5am” and “as late as 3am, 4am, or 5am”. Disney notes that the Walt Disney World Resort operates 24 hours a day, even if the parks aren’t open. Now, that’s not to say that the gondolas will operate 24 hours a day, because they likely won’t. That said, Disney looks to be anticipating long hours, if not for the Cast Members alone."

Seems that the gondolas will operate beyond park hours to serve resorts and possibly Boardwalk dining and entertainment.
Considering DHS will be opening at 6AM every day for at least a couple months, the opening time of 5AM makes sense.

Not sure about those end of shift times, though.
 

cosmicgirl

Well-Known Member
Very possible that the late night/early morning times might be for checking every gondola, and cleaning as needed for the next day.
Agreed, and with the EEMH they could do an overnight shift which covers that plus the initial opening (which I hope will be before 5am).

Did they remove the position btw? When I click the link Liftblog posted I get redirected to the home page, but that might be a geographical thing.
 

Heppenheimer

Well-Known Member
So I know a lot of discussion has been made about heat in these things, but what about cold? Forgive me if it's been posted.
I was in WDW last November with my wife and it got very cold in the evenings. I'm aware the gondolas have vents to allow cross breeze and I assume they can be closed. But closed would they still allow cold air to trickle in during those chilly nights or would they be fairly tight? My wife and I packed clothes for cooler nights, but were still caught a little off guard as to how cold it can get sometimes during those winter months and I would think not many people are packing winter coats for their WDW trip.

Anywho, just a thought. Can't wait to ride these in December! (Yes I shall pack warm!)
Even in the depth of winter, ski gondolas are usually a very comfortable temperature with only the body heat of the occupants to provide any warming. I've skied in temperatures below 10 F, and once inside the gondola, the collective trapped body heat of all the occupants usually provides enough warmth inside the gondola that I can usually take off my gloves and helmet and loosen my jacket to let my skin breathe a little.

One difference between a ski gondola and Disney, though, is that the occupants of a ski gondola have usually just finished a run down the mountain, and they are likely to be venting quite a bit more excess body heat than a Disney guest going to the parks.

But really, it doesn't get particularly cold in central Florida. If it's not too cold to visit the park, it won't be too cold in the gondolas, and should even be a little warmer.
 
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