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News New Gondola Transportation - Disney Skyliner - Every Possible What If ....? Has Been Discussed.

danlb_2000

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
What we know, based on inform from @MisterPenguin

  • This is verified by around 5 insiders, permits, the beginning of construction, and documents obtained by the Orlando Sentinel. [confirmed at D23 2017]

  • It will connect POP/AoA and Caribbean with DHS/Epcot. And likely raise the prices there.

  • Possible I.D. of the gondola make and model here.

  • Can gondolas handle wheelchairs, strollers, and EVC? Yes, here.

  • Will it be installed in other places? No plans right now, but, always a possibility if it works out well.

  • All the gondola stations will be ground level with a steep incline coming in/out [here]

  • gondolas stations will be themed to nearby architecture: International Gateway will be Parisian; DHS will be Art Deco; AoA/Pop will be a Wave (near Little Mermaid); CBR Stations will be regal and stoney (which is which isn't confirmed). [here]

  • gondolas will be 8 person cabins from Doppelmayr, have a through-put of 5,000 people per hour, have wi-fi, and ample passive ventilation [here]

  • It has been reported that the gondola's will NOT have air conditioning, but there is extensive discussion that this should not be an issue.
11/20/2018:​
Official word from Disney, no A/C:​
A Walt Disney World spokeswoman confirmed Tuesday that the gondolas would not have AC. The cabins were “specifically tailored to provide a comfortable ride for our guests in the Florida climate,” she said. The units will use cross-ventilation for sufficient air flow and reflective windows to prevent direct sunlight, she said.



This has been discussed in other threads but it is time for it to have it's own thread.

Recent permits related to Caribbean Beach Resort and DHS seem to indicate that a new transportation system between CBR, DHS, Epcot and possible AOA might be in the works.

The CBR permit showed these two new structures which by themselves don't look to interesting.

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A DHS permit this week shows two more new structure around DHS, as well as a construction access road which is not shown here.

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The shapes, location, and orientation of these structure form a interesting pattern that may not be coincidental. Thanks to @P_Radden for this map.

Based on this information a gondola/skyride system of some sort looks like a possibility.

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  1. First look at concept art: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/new-gondola-transportation-disney-skyliner.924477/post-7988587
  2. Additional IG, DHS concept art: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/new-gondola-transportation-disney-skyliner.924477/post-8274905
  3. Pop/AoA concept art: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/new-gondola-transportation-disney-skyliner.924477/post-8032964
Character overlays seen so far:
1 - Peter Pan
2 - Finding Nemo
3 - Minnie/Mickey/Pluto/Chip/Dale
4 - Toy Story
5 - Zootopia
6 - Monsters Inc
7 - Star Wars
8 - Stitch
9 - Daisy/Donald/Huey/Dewey/Louie/Scrooge McDuck
10 - Goofy/Pete/Horace/Clarabelle
11 - Winnie the Pooh
12 - Coco
13 - Guardians of the Galaxy
14 - Beauty and the Beast
15 - Wreck-it-Ralph
16 - Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
17 - Pirates of the Caribbean
18 - Haunted Mansion
19 - Ratatouille
20 - Moana
21 - Frozen
22 - Princess and the Frog.

Car number list

200 - Red Pluto, Chip and Dale, Mickey and Minnie
201 - Red Chip and Dale, Pluto, Mickey and Minnie
203 - Red Pirates of the Caribbean
208 - Red Wreck it Ralph
209 - Purple Haunted Mansion
210 - Purple Snow White and the Seven Dwarves
211 - Purple Monsters Inc.
212 - Purple Stitch
216 - Green Zootopia
217 - Green Ducktales
218 - Green Pete, Goofy, Horace and Clarabelle
222 - Red Toy Story
223 - Red Peter Pan
229 - Blue Guardians of the Galaxy
231 - Blue Beauty and the Beast
235 - Orange Coco
238 - Orange Finding Nemo
239 - Orange Toy Story
240 - Orange Wreck it Ralph
241 - Orange Star Wars
243 - Orange
244 - Orange
250 - Orange
251 - Orange
253 - Orange
273 - Teal Frozen
274 - Teal Moana
278 - Teal
281 - Teal
282 - Teal
284 - Teal Princess and the Frog
286 - Teal
289 - Teal Ratatouille
290 - Teal Snow White and the Seven Dwarves
306 - Yellow Pete, Goofy, Horace, and Clarabelle
307 - Yellow Beauty and the Beast
312 - Yellow Winnie the Pooh
315 - Yellow
334 - Yellow
 
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GoofGoof

Premium Member
That would be an interesting idea. Based on the fact that it crosses over the parking lots for both BW and DHS I have to assume it's something elevated so a standard light rail system would be out. Could it be a peoplemover system? That would have to be cheaper than a monorail I would think.
 

DDLand

Well-Known Member
I like it. It's cool and distinctive, but not cool enough to ruin the appeal of the monorails. The hotels getting coverage should be able to scale up thousands of rooms and this will make them that much more attractive. This will allow Disney to properly compete with mid tier Universal Hotels. This particular amenity is great and unusual.

With that said, International Gateway may need to be looked at depending on the scale of the system. If it connects with Art of Animation/Pop it may need a redesign just for capacity.

This is a much better way to get to the parks.

Edit: Disney has also been on a green push. This would reduce their carbon emissions by moving more to electric transportation. RCID already is nuclear and solar heavy as I recall, so this would fit into the plan.
 
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P_Radden

Premium Member
The big thing standing out to me right now is the size of that building on the empty pad at CBR. Can someone find a decent comparison to a current WDW structure? That could be a new secondary TTC considering it's size and the area around it for parking or additional expansion
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Thinking of those 90° turns. The could have a third entrance/exit out of those structures.

Your mind just sploded. :jawdrop:
 

monothingie

Skyliner Survivor
Premium Member
In the Parks
No


Direction changing buildings are quite similar.

Is there any possibility this could be for underground utilities or infrastructure?
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Gondolas and a Sky-ride are very low capacity, very susceptible to weather (wind and lightning) are incredibly unreliable, and do not have adequate climate control for a Florida. (No AC).
I'm thinking a luxury gondola more like this than a traditional sky ride:
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This is from Whistler mountain in Canada. The lift covers something like 3 miles in about 10 minutes and has 28 of these gondolas that hold up to 28 people. It has an hourly capacity of over 4,000 riders but would be less if it has to make multiple stops. I assume it could also be air conditioned for FL heat. The whole thing cost something like $50M to build a few years ago. Much cheaper than a monorail. I'm pretty sure the thunderstorms would still be a problem for these.
 
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