Figment1986
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They were overbuilt with hotels, now they are getting overbuilt with timeshares too :brick: cause we can't forget the project being looked at next to fort wilderness too
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New California Coast DVC @ WDW?
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They were overbuilt with hotels, now they are getting overbuilt with timeshares too :brick: cause we can't forget the project being looked at next to fort wilderness too
majortom1981
Active Member
Disney makes money on the resort. Once they sell all shares of that resort they made all their money back and then some.
Also regular non dvc members can stay at these resorts also. these resorts are a great way to save money.
Heck try to get a reservation at all during the second week of december when not making reservations a year or two in advance.
Disney stil lseells out all rooms from time to time so adding more rooms will not hurt.
lwalker8
Member
We will never see a 5th gate until the resorts are built out to their maximum. The vacation club properties are driving Disney's Resort business growth and have been for some time.
devoy1701
Well-Known Member
hopefully more people will start complaining about EMH with all of these extra rooms that will be opening or have opened. It's more of a headache than it is a perk anymore.
All they need to do is have more parks open for EMH to spread the crowds around.
I still find the morning EMH to be a great perk, most people like to sleep in.
devoy1701
Well-Known Member
question is why haven't they done this yet. :brick:
Pioneer Hall
Well-Known Member
Because keeping a park open is extremely expensive and they aren't going to keep multiple parks open to spread the crowds around. If they were to do anything, I could see them bringing an upcharge thing similar to E-ticket nights back at some point. Other than that, EMH is a perk and no where does it say that crowds will be lower than during the day.
devoy1701
Well-Known Member
We've beaten this EMH horse to death many times. The bottom line for me is that with BLT and Kinadi Village now open and Art of Animation, this California Coast resort, and possibly another DVC at Ft. Wilderness and GF opening in the near future, they're going to need to revisit the "perk" of EMH as guests no longer get the same benefit as they used to with this. I wouldn't be surprised if we see changes to this system in the next 2 years. With the addition of some 5,000 rooms to the on-site resorts, I think it will definitely be something that will needed to be done.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
This whole thing just doesn't smell right. Laguna Hills?!? I live in Orange County, and I have a cousin that lives in Laguna Hills. Laguna Hills is a boring, pre-fab, middle class suburb where all homes and businesses are only allowed to be painted a half dozen shades of beige stucco. The big excitement there, aside from PTA meetings and picking up a new leased BMW, is going to Coldstone Ice Cream on a Saturday night and putting a buck in the tip jar so the kids can sing a perky song.
I humbly present Laguna Hills, in all it's beige, stucco, middle-class, SoCal glory...
Glamour! Elegance! Excitement! Stucco! Laguna Hills!
Really? They're going to theme a DVC resort to that? Something doesn't smell right with this very brief, and clearly dated with Wing Chao references, information about a new DVC property at WDW.
christopherscob
Member
Maybe they have picked up a giant second hand sun, a couple of muriels, a replica of the Golden Gate bridge and a giant california sign cheap from somewhere on the west coast and thought they could build a resort around them!:lol:
SeaCastle
Well-Known Member
Permits for Bay Lake Tower were filed as far back as 2006, with planning likely in 2004 and 2005, so it is unlikely one concept led to the other, judging by the date of the PDF.
I know for a fact that H-11 is the land designation for the plot that Pop Century sits on, so it's not unlikely that H-1 is a hotel site designation as well. Good catch!
MarkTwain
Well-Known Member
Okay... I'm starting to get worried.
Things like the Bay Lake Tower, Beach Club Villas, or even Saratoga Springs don't bother me so much, because they were built on land that was already developed in the first place. But if Disney isn't careful, they're soon going to lose valuable expansion land for future theme parks, or just the natural wildlife that makes WDW such an immersive oasis from the outside world. Not to mention just the sheer number of the thousands of people they're adding to the 4 parks that aren't getting significantly bigger.:lol: Interesting point. But DVC resorts in the past have often adopted more "conservative" themes, for lack of a better word. Saratoga Springs ain't exactly the Polynesian, in terms of immersion or exotic-ness. Since Disney prefers that the DVC members are responsible for the upkeep of the timeshares, they probably go with more contemporary or ordinary themes that are easy to construct and easy to maintain.
TheBeatles
Well-Known Member
Okay... I'm starting to get worried.
Seeing past the wilderness has happened already in the Animal Kingdom area of property.
Will the hotel being built next to Ft Wilderness rise above the trees? It would be such a shame if that happens.
The amount of land that separates WDW from the outside is what makes this place so special. I think that will eventually be lost.
EPCOTCenterLover
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Funny! I used to live in Laguna Hills. Now, Laguna BEACH, I totally get as a theme for a resort- gorgeous!
MarkTwain
Well-Known Member
Perspective on the subject from ProgressCity, one of my most trusted blogs:
http://progresscityusa.com/2010/11/09/california-here-we-come/#comments
Sounds like this resort was canceled along with Eagle Pines several years ago (due to DCA's failure, perhaps?), or was possibly replaced with Saratoga Springs.
http://progresscityusa.com/2010/11/09/california-here-we-come/#comments
Sounds like this resort was canceled along with Eagle Pines several years ago (due to DCA's failure, perhaps?), or was possibly replaced with Saratoga Springs.
Brian_WDW74
Member
ProgressCity said:
When I posted the link to the Square Peg Design document, I only said that it lent credence to the rumor. I never stated, nor do I believe, that it provides "concrete evidence" the resort will be built.
Just to set the record straight.
TheBeatles
Well-Known Member
"Unfortunately, this is going to be the way of things for the foreseeable future – a focus on building DVC units at the expense of everything else, especially all that untouched wilderness that Walt wanted to shield his resort from the outside world. DVC is like running a money-printing machine for Disney, so unless corporate leadership has a sudden attack of conscience regarding sustainable development and good taste, look for all that remaining empty land to slowly fill up with timeshares. I just don’t think that, for the time being, a California adventure will be in the cards."
This is exactly what I fear and foresee as happening.
This is exactly what I fear and foresee as happening.
MiklCraw4d
Member
When I posted the link to the Square Peg Design document, I only said that it lent credence to the rumor. I never stated, nor do I believe, that it provides "concrete evidence" the resort will be built.
Just to set the record straight.
I didn't mean to imply that you did
I would have actually credited this forum but I had saved the document from your post and then when I wrote the story I couldn't remember where I found it hehe... Journalism at its finest!