Never believe what you read

[disney fan 13]

Stop. You just made the OP's point.

Why? Because 90% of what I said was fact.

Nets up in AK-Fact
Dinosaur having broken effects-Fact
Nothing new in Typhoon Lagoon since '05-Fact
Nothing new in Blizzard Beach since opening-Fact
Nothing Brand new (not a refurb) at Epcot since '07-Fact
Nothing New besides a walkthrough (not a refurb) at HS since '05
Living seas to Nemo, and Stitch to AE-Thus toonification
Multiple effects on multiple rides down permanently/ for an extended piece of time-Fact
WOL closed, Imageworks down-Thus Closed areas.

I don't see where i'm making up things...

 

[Dads 2 Boys]

Never said you were making anything up did I? Nope.

While you're at it, why don't you just call first timers ignorant....you are almost there anyways.

 

[disney fan 13]

Never said you were making anything up did I? Nope.

While you're at it, why don't you just call first timers ignorant....you are almost there anyways.

I wouldn't say first timers are ignorant, just new to their surroundings.

 

[Wojciehowicz]

Never said you were making anything up did I? Nope.

While you're at it, why don't you just call first timers ignorant....you are almost there anyways.

I wouldn't say first timers are ignorant, just new to their surroundings.

Ok you two, let's sing Kumbaya in three part harmony, I'll start.

 

[jharvey]

Just an observation of note to all first time guests.

In October our family went as first timers to Disney World. Prior to going we had heard and read so many negative reports. A lot of positive reports as well, but it's the negative one's that make you worry. Ie. Long walks at the hotel. Long wait times for buses. Lousy service and/or bad tasting food at certain restaurants. Crowd levels. Broken down rides.

Well after our trip I can say we experienced nothing but thrills and enjoyment our entire trip.

We stayed at the Little Mermaid section of the Art Of Animation. I heard people complaining about the distance they had to walk. This didn't make sense to me because you are going to be walking ALL DAY at the theme parks. What is an extra 8-10minute stroll at a themed hotel? In fact my family relished walking thru the themed areas on the way to/from our room. Often we took different routes as well to walk around the entire hotel even if it was off the beaten path.

Bus times. Once we waited about 5 minutes for a bus. Every other time the buses were right there for us. This is both coming and going to the parks. So either we were super lucky, or a lot of these reports are exaggerated.

Food. We dined at the AoA and loved it. Also we were skeptical going into Tony's as per all the negative reports. Again, either we were really lucky or what, but we enjoyed both the food and the atmosphere.

So all in all my point would be advice to all first timers, experience your vacation for yourself and do not dwell on others complaints.

Lastly, speaking of complaints. While we were there we heard daily multiple complaints from people about waiting in lines, the heat, the food, the long walks, the crowds.. only thing is, not one complaint came out of the mouth of a child.

Very surreal. Advice telling me not to listen to advice...... Is this a test? That said, very true.

 

[Patricia Melton]

The biggest thing that gets me are the people who call the food at WDW "inedible". I cringe when they do this, because it's factually inadequate since in the same breath (or mouthful) they admit to eating the whole meal...which is something that would have been impossible if it was truly "inedible".

People who really take aim at WDW food are drama queens to a large extent because calling something they just finished eating "inedible" is their way of exaggerating the fact that they just didn't personally like whatever it was...but yet I very rarely see any of them mention telling waitstaff that the meal they bought was "inedible". I find it hard to believe that Disney wouldn't replace or otherwise rectify a truly "inedible" meal.

The other thing that makes me scratch my head are the reviewers who claim that food tastes so much better wherever they live and that the food in the parks is terrible. I wish these people would tell us where they live so that I can make a special trip there to eat all that gourmet food they have there that is so much better than WDW. Clearly these people are not 5-star chefs at home, but the way they malign WDW's food you'd think they were all trained at the Cordon Bleu. Once again, I wish they'd open restaurants if they are such great cooks so we all could enjoy their cooking!

Reading anyone's take on WDW is really like looking at the comments left on Amazon when you are going to buy something. I have to admit that there have been times where I was afraid to purchase something because of the nasty or negative things someone wrote in a review on that site. But, then I take some time to look at the grammar, punctuation, and other reviews left by the person commenting and I try to get a sense if this is someone who is just negative and hates everything in general...or if it's just a problem that person had with the one product. 9 times out of 10 a review that is mean-spirited sounding, has poor spelling, and exaggerates like calling something "inedible" is written by someone who seems to trash everything in general...so I discount that Amazon review accordingly.

I also try to remember something I learned many years ago when my husband used to be in the restaurant business and that's the simple fact that every complimentary letter/comment is usually worth about 15-20 nasty ones. People for some reason are more apt to moan about or attack something than they are to take time out of their day to say how much they love this or that. So every letter that my husband would get about his restaurants that said a positive thing was worth 20 times that of a complaint...since complaining unfortunately comes more naturally to people than sitting down to write a letter of praise.

 

[Patricia Melton]

I think the "don't believe what you read" rule is good based on the fact that in the case of "too far to walk, food suxx...lines are too long...it's too hot..." it's an opinion..and you know what they say about those.

Now if I read something that says "Don't Open Dead Inside" I'm going to trust "writer\author" of said message and go the other way....

Glad you enjoyed your vacation.

This comment made me laugh because two weekends ago I saw "Walking Dead" for the first time since it's on Netflix online for free. I saw that written on the doors and at first I couldn't figure out what it said because I thought it read: Don't Dead Open Inside. Then I looked at it again and it made more sense how it was written on the doors with "Open" under "Don't" and "Inside" over "Dead".

Can you imagine being in WDW during a zombie outbreak like on that show? I wonder if people could survive in the MK during an onslaught like that?

 

[Lil Fort]

...since complaining unfortunately comes more naturally to people than sitting down to write a letter of praise.

So true! Sad, but true...

 

[Patricia Melton]

Which then renders us a nice variation of Epimenides' paradox. "Don't believe what you read on fora, including this"

This reminds me of when my son was in college and he'd come home to us country mice during holidays and felt the need to foist as much of what he read in his sociology classes into dinner conversation as possible. I remember well all the "My Soc Professor said..." or "my T.A. believes" or "my Lit professor was just discussing that..." etc. for those four long years he was in college.

I don't think he talked about Epimenides, but we heard a lot about Schrodinger's cat, Pavlov's dogs, and Harlow's monkeys. It was an endless menagerie of pretension for 8 semesters.

 

[Figment1986]

Something to remember, A lot of times a review is only posted as there was a urge to post it, usually a negative experience they want to share and thus with some sites and apps you end up seeing far more negative remarks or overwhelming positive remarks. The best thing to do after a vacation, write down different things (like hotel, restaurants) and then go to a site like here or yelp and write your reviews. you don't need to keep detailed notes but still a good idea to help enhance the information included out there for the next person planning their visit to look and see.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

This reminds me of when my son was in college and he'd come home to us country mice during holidays and felt the need to foist as much of what he read in his sociology classes into dinner conversation as possible. I remember well all the "My Soc Professor said..." or "my T.A. believes" or "my Lit professor was just discussing that..." etc. for those four long years he was in college.

I don't think he talked about Epimenides, but we heard a lot about Schrodinger's cat, Pavlov's dogs, and Harlow's monkeys. It was an endless menagerie of pretension for 8 semesters.

I barely understand half of what you just wrote!

I'm just a hard-working pseudo-intellectual taking my stuff directly off Wiki then posting it here, hoping nobody will question me over it lest I'll be found out.


Also, your reply gives me a distinct déja-vu! Did you copy-paste, peek, or write it all from memory?

 

[Marco226]

Just an observation of note to all first time guests.

In October our family went as first timers to Disney World. Prior to going we had heard and read so many negative reports. A lot of positive reports as well, but it's the negative one's that make you worry. Ie. Long walks at the hotel. Long wait times for buses. Lousy service and/or bad tasting food at certain restaurants. Crowd levels. Broken down rides.

Well after our trip I can say we experienced nothing but thrills and enjoyment our entire trip.

We stayed at the Little Mermaid section of the Art Of Animation. I heard people complaining about the distance they had to walk. This didn't make sense to me because you are going to be walking ALL DAY at the theme parks. What is an extra 8-10minute stroll at a themed hotel? In fact my family relished walking thru the themed areas on the way to/from our room. Often we took different routes as well to walk around the entire hotel even if it was off the beaten path.

Bus times. Once we waited about 5 minutes for a bus. Every other time the buses were right there for us. This is both coming and going to the parks. So either we were super lucky, or a lot of these reports are exaggerated.

Food. We dined at the AoA and loved it. Also we were skeptical going into Tony's as per all the negative reports. Again, either we were really lucky or what, but we enjoyed both the food and the atmosphere.

So all in all my point would be advice to all first timers, experience your vacation for yourself and do not dwell on others complaints.

Lastly, speaking of complaints. While we were there we heard daily multiple complaints from people about waiting in lines, the heat, the food, the long walks, the crowds.. only thing is, not one complaint came out of the mouth of a child.

I'm glad you all had a great time! I like reading happy stories about WDW trips.

As for the topic, for me, I think people should have a good balance of hearing/taking into account what people say and experiencing those things themselves in order to make their own decisions.

I'm one of those people who believe that ignorance is not bliss, so I want to know what is wrong with the things that I am paying for, like broken animatronics and effects on rides. Yes, there are stupid things that people complain about, like how far one has to walk in WDW, but intelligent people should be able to distinguish what is relevant and will affect their trip the most and what is just plain whining. So, I appreciate the opinions that are expressed on sites like these. That way, I can keep and eye out for the things that are being talked about so that I can find out for myself how bad/good it is.

 

[CP_alum08]

Good for you! With such incredible negativity out there it's nice to see some positive experiences!

Good news about Tony's too, maybe they've finally got their act together. Didn't Tony's just get a new head chef, or am I thinking of one of the other Italian restaurants? <--Not sarcasm, an honest question

 

[Patricia Melton]

Also, your reply gives me a distinct déja-vu! Did you copy-paste, peek, or write it all from memory?

I hardly need to "copy and paste" anything. Whenever you trot out something like "Epimenides" or that other thing you said that one time, you remind me of my son back in his college years. He used to do the same thing you do...but then he grew out of it.

 

[marni1971]

I'd be surprised if a first timer didn't have a wonderful time. I'd hope that they did!

 

[Tiggerfanatic]

This reminds me of when my son was in college and he'd come home to us country mice during holidays and felt the need to foist as much of what he read in his sociology classes into dinner conversation as possible. I remember well all the "My Soc Professor said..." or "my T.A. believes" or "my Lit professor was just discussing that..." etc. for those four long years he was in college.

I don't think he talked about Epimenides, but we heard a lot about Schrodinger's cat, Pavlov's dogs, and Harlow's monkeys. It was an endless menagerie of pretension for 8 semesters.

Ha!Ha! Sounds like an episode of Big Bang Theory! Seriously, I remember living through those dinner conversations myself while DD was in college, coming home and reciting lectures word for word....

And, on a happier note, to the OP, I'm glad you had a good trip. I've always said, being in WDW is better than being at work for a week.

 

[ShookieJones]

This comment made me laugh because two weekends ago I saw "Walking Dead" for the first time since it's on Netflix online for free. I saw that written on the doors and at first I couldn't figure out what it said because I thought it read: Don't Dead Open Inside. Then I looked at it again and it made more sense how it was written on the doors with "Open" under "Don't" and "Inside" over "Dead".

Can you imagine being in WDW during a zombie outbreak like on that show? I wonder if people could survive in the MK during an onslaught like that?

Yeah my favorite show on TV right now- if not of all time. I could start a whole thread on the Walking Dead..but this ain't the place for that...unless of course we go to your point of an outbreak at at WDW. Hmm....but if I'm not mistaken I think there may have been a 'general discussion' thread covering that at some point already.

That "Don't Dead Open Inside" is a running joke in my household.....still don't get it other than they MUST have been in a hurry hadn't thought the message or the placement of it out to well...

 

[ULPO46]

Glad you had a good time! Though I will say that it would be very difficult for a first timer to be able to spot most of the issues we discuss here (Busted effects, Toonification, Closed area's, Lack of quality additions in 3 parks and both water parks etc.) Mainly because the current WDW is the only WDW you have experienced, for example, you wouldn't be mad about Stitch because you never experienced AE, or complain about the busted dinosaur effects and AK nets because you haven't seen it without them and so on... Which is why people should believe what you read, or at least the majority of it, because it is sadly true...

Disney's a family park. Stitch since it came out it think has been tamed over time. But alot of parents complained that they had no idea that alien ecnounter was so scary for little kids. I could see why you'd want to be able to go to them but Disney is, has been, and always be only a family park. Go to universal if you want the adult expierence but people always will want to spend time with family.

 

[dreamscometrue]

I'd be surprised if a first timer didn't have a wonderful time. I'd hope that they did!

Thread drift: You probably can't give yourself a shout out Martin, so I will. Just heard you on 'MouseSteps Weekly' on Youtube...well done.

 

[cba]

Just an observation of note to all first time guests.

In October our family went as first timers to Disney World. Prior to going we had heard and read so many negative reports. A lot of positive reports as well, but it's the negative one's that make you worry. Ie. Long walks at the hotel. Long wait times for buses. Lousy service and/or bad tasting food at certain restaurants. Crowd levels. Broken down rides.

Well after our trip I can say we experienced nothing but thrills and enjoyment our entire trip.

We stayed at the Little Mermaid section of the Art Of Animation. I heard people complaining about the distance they had to walk. This didn't make sense to me because you are going to be walking ALL DAY at the theme parks. What is an extra 8-10minute stroll at a themed hotel? In fact my family relished walking thru the themed areas on the way to/from our room. Often we took different routes as well to walk around the entire hotel even if it was off the beaten path.

Bus times. Once we waited about 5 minutes for a bus. Every other time the buses were right there for us. This is both coming and going to the parks. So either we were super lucky, or a lot of these reports are exaggerated.

Food. We dined at the AoA and loved it. Also we were skeptical going into Tony's as per all the negative reports. Again, either we were really lucky or what, but we enjoyed both the food and the atmosphere.

So all in all my point would be advice to all first timers, experience your vacation for yourself and do not dwell on others complaints.

Lastly, speaking of complaints. While we were there we heard daily multiple complaints from people about waiting in lines, the heat, the food, the long walks, the crowds.. only thing is, not one complaint came out of the mouth of a child.

For the record, I almost never think anything bad about Disney World. I've never had bad food or lousy service at WDW. I never really have long walks at the hotels. So basically to sum up to what you wrote, visit the world. There's nothing wrong with having a magical world that Walt always dreamed of building, right