My recent experience with the (now MDE connected) DAS pass

richardson2210

New Member
Original Poster
My family and I took my brother who has severe autism to Disney last week. We have gone many times previously (my brother's last trip there was in 2011), but this was our first time using the DAS instead of the GAC.

We were a little concerned as to how the trip was going to go with the DAS as on past trips my brother was not able to wait in lines longer than 15 minutes without getting very upset (which the DAS addresses), and would subsequently get upset if we told him he would have to wait to get on the rides( Example: We were concerned that if he wanted to go on Splash Mountain, he would not be able to understand why we could not automatically go on Splash Mountain, as on past trips we usually used the FastPass Return line with the GAC unless the standby line was 15 or less, and would get very upset as a result.) The DAS seemed to only address this to the point that the one with the disability does not have to go and get the return time. We were also concerned that this would no longer be the case as the DAS was now connected to that person's MagicBand/ticket.

So, going into last week with those concerns, this was our experience:

Getting the pass:

We brought a doctor's note that stated exactly what my brother needed (which was essentially the GAC pass, even though we were not expecting Disney to make that additional accommodation.) We started off at Magic Kingdom and went to Guest Relations, explained my brother's disability and (voluntarily and without them asking of course) handed over the doctor's note. The Cast Member told us that the most accommodation they could give us was the DAS, as expected.The Cast Member then explained that the DAS was included in the MDE now, and the reservation times would show up on my MDE app. They took my brother's photo and made the first return time for us. They also explained that when we went to redeem the return time, we did need to scan my brother's ticket first, otherwise all that would come up for the Cast Member at the attraction would be our FastPass+ reservation.

Using the pass:

Positives:

1. The return time being connected to the MDE was very convenient for easy reference.

2. Also convenient was that the DAS return time was not a window, so we were able to return to the attraction anytime after the return time had past.

3. If the attraction time was reduced (Had a 50 minute return time for a 60 minute wait for Rock n Roller Coaster, 40 minutes later the wait time was reduced to 30 minutes) the Cast Members had no problem letting us on early as long as we had waited whatever the current wait time was.

4. Thankfully now that my brother is older he was more capable of understanding that even though he could not get on a certain ride right away, he would be able to get on it eventually as long as he did not have to actually wait in line, so crisis averted.

5. The Cast Members were very accommodating when things went wrong with it.

Negatives:

1. The system to make the return times is ridiculously glitchy. The Cast Members used iPhones or iPads with ticket/MagicBand scanners and would make the Return Times using what I'm guessing is the Wifi. However, the process was very slow, as it took awhile for their Network to load, and then many times they had trouble getting the ticket to scan. "Sorry, our network is having problems" was a phrase I heard more often than not when obtaining a return time. However, the Cast Members were very accommodating when this happened resulting in a long delay, and either gave us re-entry FastPasses or simply a paper return time ticket instead of bothering to try and figure out what was wrong. The system is fairly new, so hopefully it is likely to get better with time as all the bugs get worked out.

2. When I returned with my family to ride the attraction, there were many times where I would scan my brother's ticket first, and the DAS return time would not be recognized in their system. "Did you already make a return time?" was usually what I was asked. I'd always say yes, bring it up to show them on MDE, and then would be allowed to proceed with no problems. Once again, hopefully with time the glitches will get worked out with this as well.

3. Logistically, making the DAS return times was a nightmare due to the requirement to physically go to the attraction to get the return time. There were many times I had to go clear across the parks to get a return time in-between FastPass+ reservations (made excellent time getting from Splash Mountain to Buzz Lightyear for return time and back for our BTMRR FP+ though). It would be way easier if I was able to make the DAS return times via MDE, or at a FastPass+ kiosk first and then be able to make changes with MDE if I chose to do so. I really hope Disney is heading in this direction.


Overall, the new DAS worked out for us. As my brother is more able to understand situations now that he is older, essentially having the extra FastPass+ still allowed him to experience Disney as he would have with the GAC. However, the DAS would not have worked for us when my brother was younger, so I can definitely see why some families would/are having issues with it.
 

Tom

Beta Return
I thank you, and applaud you, for this very thorough and tactful report. I'm very glad the system worked for you, even with the obvious flaws.

It seems to me that, if they could get the system (as a whole) working right, AND if they would allow the reservations to be made through MDE, that would solve many of the concerns you, and others, have.

Obviously it's not the walk-up-and-get-on system everyone got used to, and I'm sure that was a wonderful benefit to those who truly needed it (like your family when your brother was younger). But they're headed in the right direction, it would seem. They may have jumped the gun, since the system as a whole isn't working right - evident by your interactions with CMs and their poor network connections. That frustration, coupled with the lifelong frustrations of tending the needs of an autistic family member, just makes things worse, not better.

I have faith that Disney will ultimately land on a system that works and meets the needs of those who need it. It will just require patience - which, ironically, is what the affected guests lack.
 

Daniel Johnson

Well-Known Member
I've been trying to follow the new system and any news of it as of late. My brother just got married to a young lady who has an autistic son. They are chomping at the bits to get him down to orlando, especially to MK. With all the hub bub of them getting married and after their short honeymoon, her (their, I'm getting used to my little brother having a child in his life...and I being an uncle!) son has spent more time around my wife and I... He has become enamoured with going to wdw now.

I'm saving your post so I can walk her through what they need to do when there, and before hand. Thank you for posting this, and laying out where/how/who you talked to. I hope you, your brother, and your family enjoyed this trip as much as you could!
 

richardson2210

New Member
Original Poster
I've been trying to follow the new system and any news of it as of late. My brother just got married to a young lady who has an autistic son. They are chomping at the bits to get him down to orlando, especially to MK. With all the hub bub of them getting married and after their short honeymoon, her (their, I'm getting used to my little brother having a child in his life...and I being an uncle!) son has spent more time around my wife and I... He has become enamoured with going to wdw now.

I'm saving your post so I can walk her through what they need to do when there, and before hand. Thank you for posting this, and laying out where/how/who you talked to. I hope you, your brother, and your family enjoyed this trip as much as you could!

Thank you! & I definitely hope they have more if not all of the bugs worked out of the system when you head down there next! :)
 

LizC

Well-Known Member
Thank you for this report. I'm glad to hear the new system mostly worked for you. In December we will be taking our daughter with autism who will require the pass. I was wondering how it worked with MDE, hopefully Disney is working the bugs out still.

Did the CM look at the Dr. Note you brought? When we went in 2014 they wouldn't even look at it.
 

arko

Well-Known Member
We used it this weekend but only twice, as we have been able to use FP+ to replace it for most of our planned rides.

I agree on all your issues as we experienced them to some degree. The CM's we had used Iphones which connect to the Hub app via either wifi or 3g connections(they looked like Iphone 4s'). They are encased in a large case which has a RFID reader on it. These devices are also used as an additional FP scanner when crowds are heavy.
One CM had us set up in 2 seconds, the other took about 3-4 minutes getting the device to work. On return it was fairly simple on one ride but when the CM had us use the portable scanner he could not get the return to come up, once we switched to the regular mickey scanner it popped up immediately and we went through.
Also I totally agree that having to go to the ride makes absolutely no sense now that it is electronic. Simply put the devices at FP+ kiosks to avoid having to run halfway accross the park.
 

richardson2210

New Member
Original Poster
Thank you for this report. I'm glad to hear the new system mostly worked for you. In December we will be taking our daughter with autism who will require the pass. I was wondering how it worked with MDE, hopefully Disney is working the bugs out still.

Did the CM look at the Dr. Note you brought? When we went in 2014 they wouldn't even look at it.
They looked at it because we asked them to do so. But I doubt it made any difference since it's not required.
 

richardson2210

New Member
Original Poster
We used it this weekend but only twice, as we have been able to use FP+ to replace it for most of our planned rides.

I agree on all your issues as we experienced them to some degree. The CM's we had used Iphones which connect to the Hub app via either wifi or 3g connections(they looked like Iphone 4s'). They are encased in a large case which has a RFID reader on it. These devices are also used as an additional FP scanner when crowds are heavy.
One CM had us set up in 2 seconds, the other took about 3-4 minutes getting the device to work. On return it was fairly simple on one ride but when the CM had us use the portable scanner he could not get the return to come up, once we switched to the regular mickey scanner it popped up immediately and we went through.
Also I totally agree that having to go to the ride makes absolutely no sense now that it is electronic. Simply put the devices at FP+ kiosks to avoid having to run halfway accross the park.
Using the 3G connection rather than the Wifi would definitely explain why the CMs had issues connecting.
 

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