News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

Magenta Panther

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Shall we recast Bart Simpson's voice actor while we're at it?
Yes, yes, that's true, most (if not all) cartoon voices for little boys are performed by women (like Tara Strong for Timmy Turner), because adult males have a much harder time doing it. But Marge Simpson is voiced by a woman, Lisa Simpson is voiced by a woman, so The Simpsons is not an all-boys club for cartoon voices. The puppets have only 2 female characters of note, yet both are performed by men. Worse, the pig's voice sounds like exactly like it is, a man half-strangling himself in an effort to talk in a high pitch. And it's damn annoying to listen to. Maybe the puppet handlers should consider being a little less sexist and hire some women to portray their few female characters. Maybe if the pig's voice stopped sounding like nails on a blackboard, it'd broaden the puppets' appeal, what there's left of it. Although that appeal has faded so badly, changing voices probably wouldn't help much at this point...
 

Chi84

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Yes, yes, that's true, most (if not all) cartoon voices for little boys are performed by women (like Tara Strong for Timmy Turner), because adult males have a much harder time doing it. But Marge Simpson is voiced by a woman, Lisa Simpson is voiced by a woman, so The Simpsons is not an all-boys club for cartoon voices. The puppets have only 2 female characters of note, yet both are performed by men. Worse, the pig's voice sounds like exactly like it is, a man half-strangling himself in an effort to talk in a high pitch. And it's damn annoying to listen to. Maybe the puppet handlers should consider being a little less sexist and hire some women to portray their few female characters. Maybe if the pig's voice stopped sounding like nails on a blackboard, it'd broaden the puppets' appeal, what there's left of it. Although that appeal has faded so badly, changing voices probably wouldn't help much at this point...
You think the puppet handlers are sexist? Where did you get that idea?
 

GenChi

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Tom Corless continues to be absolutely sure that this is going in Animation Courtyard.

If it is Disney needs to stop dragging and just announce it to quell the discomfort they caused the last month 1/2 not saying anything or deciding between this and demolishing Muppets

People are going mad, we're descending into talking about the gender of voices for puppets, it's not looking great
 

Mr. Sullivan

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because the timeliness of the next installment release. All amped because no in park IPs anymore.
I’ll give you the merch consideration but this specific thing seems rather irrelevant to most of these announcements as nothing they’re adding has an imminent new installment into their respective franchises.
 

celluloid

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I’ll give you the merch consideration but this specific thing seems rather irrelevant to most of these announcements as nothing they’re adding has an imminent new installment into their respective franchises.
They sure do or had very recent developments. For example, a Monsters INC film.
 
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Magenta Panther

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Fran Brill of Sesame Street fame performed Janice in the original pilot for The Muppet Show. Then, in the first season, Eren Ozker performed Janice - Richard Hunt took over in Season 2.
And why wasn't Fran Brill allowed to continue voicing the puppet?

Imagine if all of Disney's female characters were voiced by men. I imagine the public would have something to say about that. But the puppets get away with it because most people don't care that much about them, I guess. All I can say is that when the pig puppet shows up on my TV for some commercial or ad or something, I'd feel less inclined to hurl the remote at the screen if she didn't sound like she was straining to pass a massive intestinal blockage. An actual female voice might be another matter. That's all.

But again, just messin'.
 

James Alucobond

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And why wasn't Fran Brill allowed to continue voicing the puppet?

Imagine if all of Disney's female characters were voiced by men. I imagine the public would have something to say about that. But the puppets get away with it because most people don't care that much about them, I guess. All I can say is that when the pig puppet shows up on my TV for some commercial or ad or something, I'd feel less inclined to hurl the remote at the screen if she didn't sound like she was straining to pass a massive intestinal blockage. An actual female voice might be another matter. That's all.

But again, just messin'.
Not that any sort of balanced accounting is necessary, but I’m sure the few female characters out there voiced by men are more than offset by the number of adult women providing the voices for male children in many animated programs and games.
 

celluloid

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Not that any sort of balanced accounting is necessary, but I’m sure the few female characters out there voiced by men are more than offset by the number of adult women providing the voices for male children in many animated programs and games.
This. And it's about characterization, not authenticity.
 

CJR

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My take: Give Matt Vogel a chance. It’s a different take. He does well singing as Kermit. And while his speaking voice isn’t perfect, it’s not the worst thing in the world. I don’t mind it, I’ve warmed up to it over time. Kermit is Kermit, simple as that.

Just my opinion here, but he's had the role since 2017, we're inching close to a decade now. So, I'll say: chance given.

Seven years in and we're still talking about it. Imagine if most employers had that kind of patience.

It just isn't working. Matt is very valuable to The Muppets and I hope he will continue to perform with the cast, but we really do need a new Kermit, IMHO.
 

Magenta Panther

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Not that any sort of balanced accounting is necessary, but I’m sure the few female characters out there voiced by men are more than offset by the number of adult women providing the voices for male children in many animated programs and games.
But the fact remains that women do little boys' voices instead of men because MEN CAN'T DO THEM. I doubt that there's any other reason. Whereas, surely there are women puppeteers that can do the pig puppet's voice much better than the MAN who's doing it, and doing it badly. There really is no excuse for the fact that the Muppet club is boys only. Very sexist IMO. It beats me why some of you guys are griping about the frog puppet's voice when the pig puppet's voice is the real question.
 

Prince-1

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But the fact remains that women do little boys' voices instead of men because MEN CAN'T DO THEM. I doubt that there's any other reason. Whereas, surely there are women puppeteers that can do the pig puppet's voice much better than the MAN who's doing it, and doing it badly. There really is no excuse for the fact that the Muppet club is boys only. Very sexist IMO. It beats me why some of you guys are griping about the frog puppet's voice when the pig puppet's voice is the real question.

Are you still "half-kidding" with this post?? And what is the deal with your ongoing irrational diatribes about the Muppets? Did Miss Piggy not take a picture with you when you were younger and it scarred you for life??
 

Mr. Sullivan

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They sure do or had very recent developments. For example, a Monsters INC film.
The last Monsters Inc film came out over a decade ago and there is not currently another one that has been announced.

If you want to count the TV show I guess but I doubt seriously this land is going to make any reference at all to Monsters at Work, but even that is going to be almost a decade old by the time this land is done.
 

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