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[The Leader of the Club]

I have no doubt that they would do something like this. TWDC under Iger and his IP mandate has proven that anything not attached to one of its non-park media properties is at their mercy. I’ve said this multiple times, nothing at these parks is safe if it isn’t based on a movie or TV show. These parks will look very, very different in 10-15 years…

That’s not true. Things that are at “Iger’s Mercy” are things that aren’t performing well. Rivers of America, Dinoland, Universe of Energy, Great Movie Ride, Maelstrom…none of these were popular when they were announced to be going away. Splash is the exception and there are a whole host of other reasons why THAT happened.

On that note, original IPs still get investment. The Country Bears got a brand new show. Haunted Mansion gets updates every few years. Pirates is getting a lounge with the return of Peg-Leg Pete. Living with the Land and Spaceship Earth are regularly seeing old effects return.

There is no way that anyone at TWDC would think about removing something that sells as much merch as Figment unless the replacement could pick up that slack in some way. I love the Muppets, but they aren’t making Figment money. It’s more likely that Muppets become secondary festival mascots.

 

[Disstevefan1]

That’s not true. Things that are at “Iger’s Mercy” are things that aren’t performing well. Rivers of America, Dinoland, Universe of Energy, Great Movie Ride, Maelstrom…none of these were popular when they were announced to be going away. Splash is the exception and there are a whole host of other reasons why THAT happened.

On that note, original IPs still get investment. The Country Bears got a brand new show. Haunted Mansion gets updates every few years. Pirates is getting a lounge with the return of Peg-Leg Pete. Living with the Land and Spaceship Earth are regularly seeing old effects return.

There is no way that anyone at TWDC would think about removing something that sells as much merch as Figment unless the replacement could pick up that slack in some way. I love the Muppets, but they aren’t making Figment money. It’s more likely that Muppets become secondary festival mascots.

 

[Marc Davis Fan]

I believe a main issue with IPs (in non-IP lands) is that they make the parks as a whole less immersive.

A transportive land with one well-integrated IP (e.g., DL’s Adventureland) works great, but if every store, eatery, and attraction there were tied to an IP, it would no longer feel like you’re transported to another time/place, it would remind you that you’re in a theme park in ways that make the holistic experience much less powerful.

So in the short run, it’s “what guests want,” but in the long term, what made people fall in love with Disney parks is being chipped away at.

While Universal continues to get better, its parks as a whole don’t have the emotional power that the Disney parks had (and sometimes still have) when in their best form.

For Disney, one solution (for lands that are not themselves IP-based) might be if the e-tickets that aim to draw people to the park have IPs (and are well-integrated like IJA at DL), while the supporting attractions and surrounding environment remain IP-free. This would allow Disney to get most of the benefits of the IP appeal while retaining most of the emotional appeal that’s so important for the longer term.

 

[DisneyRoy]

I never doubt data science and that is what you do…but there is a lot of fan misconception on crowds in the current genie world

For example: today Disney parks released their after house announcement on face book and the reactions were “thank god, the parks are MOBBED”

Now those count be bots from TWDC…

Or more likely Orlandites who eat dust flakes for breakfast.

So do I believe a 100% PR Crafted financial report where they said “attendance is softening and we expect that to continue into 2025”?

(Not to mention my own eyes and experience)

Or some ex CPs living in BVL?


Tough call

I've been wondering this lately. Maybe it is a fast pass effect. More people are buying and using fast passes meaning less guests are in line. And more guests are in the walkways making it seem busier? Or maybe I'm just grasping at straws here.

 

[Surferboy567]

What if the announcement is that Muppet*Vision is closing to make way for Monstropolis, but the Muppets are taking over the Imagination pavilion and pushing Figment to be nothing more than a Festival host?

No shot they are that dumb. Double the backlash at the exact same time, especially with the figment movie coming.

 

[Tha Realest]

What if the announcement is that Muppet*Vision is closing to make way for Monstropolis, but the Muppets are taking over the Imagination pavilion and pushing Figment to be nothing more than a Festival host?

I don’t think the fans would respond well to losing Jim Henson’s last creation and replacing it with the folks that gave us Imagination 2.0, 3.0, and an overall disastrous stewardship of the Muppets property.

 

[Disstevefan1]

No shot they are that dumb. Double the backlash at the exact same time, especially with the figment movie coming.

There is a figment movie coming?????!!!????

 

[EagleScout610]

. I’ve said this multiple times, nothing at these parks is safe if it isn’t based on a movie or TV show

From the last 5 years or so.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I’ve said this multiple times, nothing at these parks is safe if it isn’t based on a movie or TV show.

Nothing is sacred in WDW but I think there are things that cant be touched at Disneyland.

The rivers of America in Disneyland would never get paved over for a cars ride.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

There is a figment movie coming?????!!!????

There have been hints, rumors and little droplets of *maybe* about this. Disney has not in any official capacity confirmed a Figment film, I wouldn't hold my breath. He is a merchandise driver and has a cult following, but he can't drive a feature film to the theaters. Maybe a D+ special?

 

[Moth]

What if the announcement is that Muppet*Vision is closing to make way for Monstropolis, but the Muppets are taking over the Imagination pavilion and pushing Figment to be nothing more than a Festival host?

I think this forum would genuinely have to go on lockdown for a week to hold back the fallout.

 

[Rhinocerous]

I believe a main issue with IPs (in non-IP lands) is that they make the parks as a whole less immersive.

A transportive land with one well-integrated IP (e.g., DL’s Adventureland) works great, but if every store, eatery, and attraction there were tied to an IP, it would no longer feel like you’re transported to another time/place, it would remind you that you’re in a theme park in ways that make the holistic experience much less powerful.

So in the short run, it’s “what guests want,” but in the long term, what made people fall in love with Disney parks is being chipped away at.

While Universal continues to get better, its parks as a whole don’t have the emotional power that the Disney parks had (and sometimes still have) when in their best form.

For Disney, one solution (for lands that are not themselves IP-based) might be if the e-tickets that aim to draw people to the park have IPs (and are well-integrated like IJA at DL), while the supporting attractions and surrounding environment remain IP-free. This would allow Disney to get most of the benefits of the IP appeal while retaining most of the emotional appeal that’s so important for the longer term.

I think this is right. I first experienced Disney as an adult, at Animal Kingdom. I immediately fell in love, thanks in large part to how immersive everything was. If the park had just been a collection of movie mini lands and single IP rides, I may well have dismissed the whole thing as a more elaborate Six Flags.

 

[Surferboy567]

I think this forum would genuinely have to go on lockdown for a week to hold back the fallout.

After a week, the fallout would be immense when it opens. Nothing would stop it, no amount of lockdown time.

 

[Surferboy567]

There is a figment movie coming?????!!!????

There have been hints, rumors and little droplets of *maybe* about this. Disney has not in any official capacity confirmed a Figment film, I wouldn't hold my breath. He is a merchandise driver and has a cult following, but he can't drive a feature film to the theaters. Maybe a D+ special?

A little old story but this is what we know. Rogen I think has made a few comments since though I could be wrong on that.

Disney Dragon Character Figment Getting Feature Treatment From Dan Hernandez, Benji Samit & Point Grey

Disney Character Figment Getting Feature Treatment From Dan Hernandez, Benji Samit & Point Grey

deadline.com

 

[Moth]

There have been hints, rumors and little droplets of *maybe* about this. Disney has not in any official capacity confirmed a Figment film, I wouldn't hold my breath. He is a merchandise driver and has a cult following, but he can't drive a feature film to the theaters. Maybe a D+ special?

If SEA and Swiss Robinson recently got canned, don't hold your breath here.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

If SEA and Swiss Robinson recently got canned, don't hold your breath here.

Yeah, Im not expecting this to happen.

 

[MisterPenguin]

So my co-worker has claimed that Monsters will be going into AC and a path will be built to connect to RnR. Confirmed... end of thread

What bus route do the two of you drive?

 

[LSLS]

…no “adventure”?

This how you know lazyboy could never have a job in Disney Imagineering.

 

[hopemax]

What if the announcement is that Muppet*Vision is closing to make way for Monstropolis, but the Muppets are taking over the Imagination pavilion and pushing Figment to be nothing more than a Festival host?

I actually considered, what if they move Muppet*Vision to the Magic Eye Theater, move the Carousel building between the Land and the Living Seas and erect a giant hedge around the three of them + The Land, where inside is no longer the Walt Disney Company, but a thing like Retlaw, where Burbank can never, ever, ever interfere. A team dedicated to respectful and appropriate technological and design improvements can oversee them. Truly an Experimental Prototype Community.

I mean if we are really out in dreamland...

 

[EagleScout610]

I think this forum would genuinely have to go on lockdown for a week to hold back the fallout.

And the doomsday clock ticks to 11