News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[doctornick]

That area is cast member parking. That entire area is wide open. Granted this photo was from one day. But it gives you an idea. Just so I'm clear, I don't want the removal of Muppets any more than anybody else. If Monsters built in that area, can they build into the parking lot while keeping Muppets?

See for me, it's less about keeping MuppetVision (though sure I'd prefer to keep it than not) as opposed to having the appropriate number of attractions and making the park better.

IMHO, I'm fine with MuppetVision going away if they were to use that theater for a Monsters show in addition to the door Coaster (thus actually increasing the number of attractions in the park).

Even better would be if they leave the Muppet area generally intact and just bulldoze Mama Mia and build all of Monstropolis on current parking. That would be an ideal though it would make it a dead end which exacerbates that problem of the park.

 

[ToTBellHop]

It would completely undercut all of the hype from D23. Keep in mind we still have to find out where the DCA additions are going too.

No one cares about any of the original spaces at DCA. It will be about as devastating as learning a Taco Bell is being replaced with a Chick Fil-A.

 

[Parker41056]

Or put Monsters in Animation Courtyard. If Cars is retained in Frontierland, fill in the lower island area while keeping the upper island area and move boarding for Liberty Belle just past HM. The purple border could be Villians land. Photo edit credit to another poster here from the Cars thread (I modified it slightly to fill in the walkway). If you're here, please chime in.

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This is a very interesting concept.

 

[JohnD]

This is a very interesting concept.

The artwork that Disney introduced still shows water to the side of BTMRR.

 

[doctornick]

Correct

Okay, as I though. Honestly, my feeling there has always been to build a large CM garage on the "suitable" land on the other side of World Drive and do a walkway over the road to the backstage part of the park on the west side. That frees up both the cast parking on the south plus the parking "inside" the park (around the Animation building) to actually be used as footprints for onstage guest purposes.

 

[LSLS]

Too much bad news at once would have been a more significant issue perhaps?

Which is an interesting PR thought, cause really the alternative is instead of too much all at once, now you will extend the bad news and anger for much longer.

 

[azox]

Hello All!

I was looking at the coaster layout, the loading of the train is on the top level and the unloading is below that. Since there is no return track between the two levels, I am wondering what type of mechanism they will use to bring the coaster trains back up to the top level for loading. It would be cool if they had a way to have the coaster come up through the floor for you to board. I am wondering of the tracks will rotate along that M structure somehow.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this based on what was displayed in the concept art?

 

[SamEagle80]

Too much bad news at once would have been a more significant issue perhaps?

Plus they would've released something immediately if the intent wasn't to put this in Muppet Courtyard to squash the negative press being generated by the uncertainty.

Now I'm worried they just silently close MV3D for "refurbishment" and never reopen instead of announcing the change now to avoid the months of negative press they'll get when they officially announce it. Cut that negative news cycle for this down considerably. Guess it depends on when they file permits.

At this point I think MV3D has a better chance of survival with the chance they end up cutting the MI project altogether instead of it getting moved to AC.

 

[EagleScout610]

Even if Monsters doesn't kill it, I will personally be shocked if MV3D lasts another 10 years.

 

[ToTBellHop]

The artwork that Disney introduced still shows water to the side of BTMRR.

They need to maintain a connection between Seven Seas Lagoon and other waterways in the park. Some of that connection is underground now. I presume some more of that connection will move underground, now. But, not all.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Or put Monsters in Animation Courtyard. If Cars is retained in Frontierland, fill in the lower island area while keeping the upper island area and move boarding for Liberty Belle just past HM. The purple border could be Villians land. Photo edit credit to another poster here from the Cars thread (I modified it slightly to fill in the walkway). If you're here, please chime in.

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I'm fundamentally opposed to Cars in Frontierland. I think it absolutely doesn't belong, regardless of how many pretty trees and fake mountains they put around it. But if they're going to do it, I would much rather they use the back of the river, not the front.

 

[JohnD]

They need to maintain a connection between Seven Seas Lagoon and other waterways in the park. Some of that connection is underground now. I presume some more of that connection will move underground, now. But, not all.

True but from that angle it appears to be the water immediately adjacent to BTMRR. The connection to the canal (where Electrical Water Pageant is docked) is on the other side of the RR tracks.

 

[Streetway]

Even if Monsters doesn't kill it, I will personally be shocked if MV3D lasts another 10 years.

It’s not that I’m against a successor to MV3D, I just am not confident it’d be as good, or be as intracate as MV3D

 

[Parker41056]

The artwork that Disney introduced still shows water to the side of BTMRR.

This concept would actually feature more of ROA and could be a great buffer to Villains. One BIG point in all of this that is not being talked about enough is the pathway and congestion problem that will be caused by Villains. Park management knew and recognized a problem with the ROA basin and requested some help and even as much as removal. There just has to be a path from Big Thunder to this new area. This artwork allows the addition of Cars, eliminates the basins problem and creates ample paths to Villains. Oh, and you get to keep a large portion of ROA just not sure the riverboat will still fit in but If I squint I could envision.

 

[JohnD]

This concept would actually feature more of ROA and could be a great buffer to Villains. One BIG point in all of this that is not being talked about enough is the pathway and congestion problem that will be caused by Villains. Park management knew and recognized a problem with the ROA basin and requested some help and even as much as removal. There just has to be a path from Big Thunder to this new area. This artwork allows the addition of Cars, eliminates the basins problem and creates ample paths to Villains. Oh, and you get to keep a large portion of ROA just not sure the riverboat will still fit in but If I squint I could envision.

Not to get too carried away discussing Cars--This is just to tie in everything with Monster, Inc. on how Cars could stay, Monsters, Inc. goes to AC, and Muppets remains--I suggested a possible location for Liberty Belle is Fantasmic. But I'm told that area is too small to fit it. But then there's the discussion of Zootopia. If Monsters, Inc. goes to AC, is Muppets really on borrowed time and it's removal is guaranteed anyway?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Not to get too carried away discussing Cars--This is just to tie in everything with Monster, Inc. on how Cars could stay, Monsters, Inc. goes to AC, and Muppets remains--I suggested a possible location for Liberty Belle is Fantasmic. But I'm told that area is too small to fit it.

Looking increasingly likely that the Belle gets scrapped, I’m sorry to say.

 

[Streetway]

I’ll I will say is this: if they’re doing the muppet history show, they better bring their a-game.
CBMJ proved it can be done.

 

[Purduevian]

Hello All!

I was looking at the coaster layout, the loading of the train is on the top level and the unloading is below that. Since there is no return track between the two levels, I am wondering what type of mechanism they will use to bring the coaster trains back up to the top level for loading. It would be cool if they had a way to have the coaster come up through the floor for you to board. I am wondering of the tracks will rotate along that M structure somehow.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this based on what was displayed in the concept art?

Rumor is that the load is also on the bottom and elevators lift the coaster train full of guests up to the top. There are 4 elevators.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I’ll I will say is this: if they’re doing the muppet history show, they better bring their a-game.
CBMJ proved it can be done.

Did you see Great Moments in History? I loved it (but one show was better than the other)!

 

[Streetway]

Did you see Great Moments in History? I loved it (but one show was better than the other)!

I know, and that’s what gives me hope. Even though it’s inevitable, god I am going to miss muppetvision 3D. It’s like how I feel about CBMJ. I still like it, but it hits differently than the og, which I will forever miss. No replacing it. I am happy wdi cares about the muppets tho.