Little girl gets accidentally leveled by CM during parade

[jencor]

They were very clear they didn't have the other side of the story yet. If you can't handle that kind of disclosure and instead want everything to wait until everything is known.. I suggest you stick to reading magazines. With their long cycles, they have the ability to spend weeks assembling a story before publishing it.

I do not trust magazines either, they have more of the facts usually and still only give you what they want. I will hear from more than one side and then decide. It is reporting like this that is changing this country. Do not believe one side, cause that may be the only side you hear. How many will not get the facts because they only heard the one side and then they repeat it. That is what you call news, I want my news to be correct and inform me. If I want an opinionated format, then I go to a gossip show that does that and not the news. News needs to be news

 

[nytimez]

 

[GoofGoof]

Actually? I feel sorry for the CM. Hey, he was doing EXACTLY what WDW wanted for that noontime parade... I bet the poor guy feels TERRIBLE . Just me - but if it were my daughter? Yes, I would feel VERY bad... but I really could not blame anyone other than ME - I would have taken her to an interactive event, knowing that, at times, S**t happens. I don't believe there is anyone evil here...

I'm with you 100% on this. The guy did nothing wrong. There really is nobody to blame.

As a parent of 2 young kids I would personally take full responsibility for what happened if it happened to one of my kids. So many things can happen to kids anywhere that you can't live life worrying about something like this. You protect your kids the best you can and enjoy life. Too often in our society when something goes wrong (even something pretty minor) people are quick to search out someone else to blame (especially someone with deep pockets).

 

[Killnme]

Let Smokie explain it (NSFW or NSFK)


Sorry I had too!

 

[unkadug]

I was honestly wondering if you had children because it didn't sound like you did. And hey, I am just expressing my opinion too..You seem to think that you are a great parent because of something YOU did that your kids didn't ever get scared at WDW, thirty years ago. It was just good luck..stop kidding yourself.

But hey, this is all just my opinion! Don't take it personally! Just a message board!

Now THAT is definitely a personal attack.

 

[draybook]

I second that "loco"motion!

 

[cslafferty]

Not that anyone asked, but here are some of my observations:
1) Ouch!
2) I'll bet she had a cool shiner!
3) No one to blame - just one of those things.
4) In a classroom full of 24 7-8 year olds, I wish I had a dollar for every time I knocked into, almost tripped over, or almost stepped on one of my students. And I don't have moves like Jaggar.
5) My husband is a firefighter, and everytime an incident he's been on gets on the news, they NEVER cover it accurately. Whether it's due to the race to be the first network to cover it, or their desire to beef up the boring details a little for ratings, I don't know. But I always take the details of what is reported with a grain of salt.
6) My guess is if it was more than a little bruise, Disney was in contact with the family immediately because of liability. When something happens to one of the kids on the playground at school - even if it's totally an accident and no one's at fault - we HAVE to fill out an accident report for insurance purposes, stating exactly what happened, who witnessed it, and what first aid was given, even if it was just an ice pack and a band aide. I would imagine it would be no different at an amusement park.

And, I hope EVERYONE has a magical day - and Memorial weekend!

 

[hiptwinmama]

Let Smokie explain it (NSFW or NSFK)


Sorry I had too!

That is exactly my thought..

 

[Fantasmic]

One simple way to stop this happening again.

Ban kids from the MK.

Easy
[/tongueincheek]

 

[luv]

Maybe they could surround each kid with a net-like structure.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Maybe they could surround each kid with a net-like structure.

Or perhaps some bubble wrap. Cheap and effective!

 

[BoarderPhreak]

Sheesh. It's not the CM's fault - they were dancing as part of the parade as they were trained to do. It's not the kid's fault; she was doing what kids do... Being a kid. If anything, the parent should've kept her a little closer in light of all the activity. But in the end it was just an accident. Nobody's to blame, nobody should be getting a pay out. If Disney offered them a nice meal or free tickets then that's gracious.

"Move along folks, nothing to see here. Move along."

 

[Timekeeper]

Lest we not forget that "accident" does not eliminate "negligent." Most negligence cases are, essentially, accidental in nature. If a surgeon removes the wrong limb off a patient, most would agree that such an act was an accident. Same goes for this topic of discussion. The question (with respect to addressing responsibility) is not whether it was an accident...

 

[EOD K9]

Or perhaps some bubble wrap. Cheap and effective!

This party will only take place at night with cardboard cutouts and strobe lights. There. Problem solved. You're welcome.

 

[BoarderPhreak]

Lest we not forget that "accident" does not eliminate "negligent." Most negligence cases are, essentially, accidental in nature. If a surgeon removes the wrong limb off a patient, most would agree that such an act was an accident. Same goes for this topic of discussion. The question (with respect to addressing responsibility) is not whether it was an accident...

Well, by definition - "negligence" implies that either somebody was doing something they shouldn't have been, or not doing something they should have. Neither seems to be the case here.

 

[Timekeeper]

Well, by definition - "negligence" implies that either somebody was doing something they shouldn't have been, or not doing something they should have. Neither seems to be the case here.

...and others might feel that it's reasonable to conclude that the CM *should have* been more observant of his surroundings, particularly in a crowded, interactive environment.

There's no dispute over whether a CM owes a duty of care to park guests. The question is, did he (or Disney) do enough to fulfill this duty? The fact that this doesn't happen in every parade, every day, means that there are plenty of other CMs who are presumably more observant of their surroundings than this one was. Would a reasonable person flare their arms around in a crowd without looking in the direction of their movement? (Okay, maybe Brazilian tour group members, but that's another topic.)

 

[BoarderPhreak]

...and others might feel that it's reasonable to conclude that the CM *should have* been more observant of his surroundings, particularly in a crowded, interactive environment.

There's no dispute over whether a CM owes a duty of care to park guests. The question is, did he (or Disney) do enough to fulfill this duty? The fact that this doesn't happen in every parade, every day, means that there are plenty of other CMs who are presumably more observant of their surroundings than this one was. Would a reasonable person flare their arms around in a crowd without looking in the direction of their movement? (Okay, maybe Brazilian tour group members, but that's another topic.)

Accidents are all about "should have" and "could have." As in... "I should have hit the nail with this hammer instead of missing and hitting my thumb." Could the CM have been more aware, sure. Could a child still suddenly run into his "airspace" when his gaze returned front and center? Sure. We don't have the full video (especially his eyes) so we just don't know if he did or not. But if we go just with what we see in the video - the little girl does move from the side to right behind the CM just as he starts the jump. She clearly approached him after he turned around.

Asserting negligence is very much a legalese way of looking at this... Situation. Sometimes accidents are just accidents. As alluded to earlier in the thread, "in the old days" you'd brush it off and move on with life. Society is becoming far too litigious for the sake of making a buck.

 

[Timekeeper]

...Society is becoming far too litigious for the sake of making a buck.

Maybe that's in response to companies becoming far too ...negligent?

Without law, we would be left without accountability. And when companies bow down to the almighty god of profit, people are no longer the priority. We all see this happening every day, and it's scary. As the saying goes, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

 

[BoarderPhreak]

Maybe that's in response to companies becoming far too ...negligent?

Without law, we would be left without accountability. And when companies bow down to the almighty god of profit, people are no longer the priority. We all see this happening every day, and it's scary. As the saying goes, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

Of course! People or companies that are truly negligent should be held accountable. No doubt. But don't create a case where none exists.

 

[flynnibus]

Maybe that's in response to companies becoming far too ...negligent?

No - it stems from the idea that 'someone needs to be responsible' - for EVERYTHING. There is no such thing as an accident anymore... someone is always liable. That's what leads to this absurdity.