Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

dovetail65

dovetail65

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Disstevefan1 said:
Excellent! I am a big fan of manufactured homes. You get a LOT of house for the money!!!!
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OH yeah and when I sit inside overlooking the pond there is 100% no difference to than when I sit in my home in IL. We are happy and when we retire we are just moving in. If not for the manufactured home we could not retire in 502 days when I am 59(yea it's a brag a bit). We won't be rich and may have to clip coupons and many people might not be happy with it, but we are. 3 bed 3 bath, 1800 sq feet on the pond with a view of the gators(that's a weird story)and the cool Florida birds, it's fine for us. And even in traffic it is 10 minutes to the Disney bubble and on a good day 6 minutes(yeah I timed it).

I had a friend move to AZ, he waited until he was 69 arrived down there and died 2 weeks later. His wife regrets putting off retirement so they could save to live in a nicer home in retirement. I am not playing that. Heck, worse case I will work part time at Disney or fun money and extra cash, they are paying 14 plus an hour.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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dovetail65 said:
OH yeah and when I sit inside overlooking the pond there is 100% no difference to than when I sit in my home in IL. We are happy and when we retire we are just moving in. If not for the manufactured home we could not retire in 502 days when I am 59(yea it's a brag a bit). We won't be rich and may have to clip coupons and many people might not be happy with it, but we are. 3 bed 3 bath, 1800 sq feet on the pond with a view of the gators(that's a weird story)and the cool Florida birds, it's fine for us. And even in traffic it is 10 minutes to the Disney bubble and on a good day 6 minutes(yeah I timed it).

I had a friend move to AZ, he waited until he was 69 arrived down there and died 2 weeks later. His wife regrets putting off retirement so they could save to live in a nicer home in retirement. I am not playing that. Heck, worse case I will work part time at Disney or fun money and extra cash, they are paying 14 plus an hour.
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You are exactly correct! Retire AS SOON AS YOU CAN! Because as you point out, you never know! I too have personally experienced a similar even more tragic story. He died at 64.... I do not know you @dovetail65 but it makes me smile you are retiring early. Well done!
 
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DisneyCane

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dovetail65 said:
OH yeah and when I sit inside overlooking the pond there is 100% no difference to than when I sit in my home in IL. We are happy and when we retire we are just moving in. If not for the manufactured home we could not retire in 502 days when I am 59(yea it's a brag a bit). We won't be rich and may have to clip coupons and many people might not be happy with it, but we are. 3 bed 3 bath, 1800 sq feet on the pond with a view of the gators(that's a weird story)and the cool Florida birds, it's fine for us. And even in traffic it is 10 minutes to the Disney bubble and on a good day 6 minutes(yeah I timed it).

I had a friend move to AZ, he waited until he was 69 arrived down there and died 2 weeks later. His wife regrets putting off retirement so they could save to live in a nicer home in retirement. I am not playing that. Heck, worse case I will work part time at Disney or fun money and extra cash, they are paying 14 plus an hour.
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Disstevefan1 said:
You are exactly correct! Retire AS SOON AS YOU CAN! Because as you point out, you never know! I too have personally experienced a similar even more tragic story. He died at 64.... I do not know you @dovetail65 but it makes me smile you are retiring early. Well done!
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As soon as you can retire without having to worry about having enough money for food, shelter and enough leisure to keep you happy, do it. Even if you don't die, there is no guarantee how long you will be physically and mentally able to do things you enjoy.

I envy @dovetail65 and I am working with my financial advisor on a plan to follow in your footsteps and even retire a little younger if at all possible.

Thanks to Genie+ your days at WDW will either cost more or have you standing in long standby lines but if you can go pretty much every day, you can just enjoy the parks and pick one or two rides a day. From that close you don't have to maximize every second. Even with the time to park, enter, get back to your car and leave it will only cost maybe 40 minutes of your day to visit a park. Even if you just spend an hour or two the travel time is pretty much irrelevant.

If I lived that close and if they ever bring muffins back to Sunshine Seasons, I'd go some days just to have a blueberry muffin for breakfast.
 
TheGuyThatMakesSwords

TheGuyThatMakesSwords

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DisneyCane said:
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As soon as you can retire without having to worry about having enough money for food, shelter and enough leisure to keep you happy, do it. Even if you don't die, there is no guarantee how long you will be physically and mentally able to do things you enjoy.

I envy @dovetail65 and I am working with my financial advisor on a plan to follow in your footsteps and even retire a little younger if at all possible.

Thanks to Genie+ your days at WDW will either cost more or have you standing in long standby lines but if you can go pretty much every day, you can just enjoy the parks and pick one or two rides a day. From that close you don't have to maximize every second. Even with the time to park, enter, get back to your car and leave it will only cost maybe 40 minutes of your day to visit a park. Even if you just spend an hour or two the travel time is pretty much irrelevant.

If I lived that close and if they ever bring muffins back to Sunshine Seasons, I'd go some days just to have a blueberry muffin for breakfast.
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DW and I were lucky. Just old enough to retire from a Fortune 500, with a classic lifetime pension, at 55 in 2007.

Now, we were both Scientists. Today? The lack of real pensions for "new" retirees REALLY bothers me. My four children won't get this - just a crummy 401K :(. Nonetheless? We've cut WDW down to one trip per year, rather than two. And likely selling our DVC contracts in the near future. Historical data indicates WDW will start out loosing $6K per year, followed by $12K per year - party of two.

Now, this is of course peanuts to WDW - it's just TWO people. Can't wait to see how the new economic virus that got started replicates.
 
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natatomic

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DisneyCane said:
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As soon as you can retire without having to worry about having enough money for food, shelter and enough leisure to keep you happy, do it. Even if you don't die, there is no guarantee how long you will be physically and mentally able to do things you enjoy.

I envy @dovetail65 and I am working with my financial advisor on a plan to follow in your footsteps and even retire a little younger if at all possible.

Thanks to Genie+ your days at WDW will either cost more or have you standing in long standby lines but if you can go pretty much every day, you can just enjoy the parks and pick one or two rides a day. From that close you don't have to maximize every second. Even with the time to park, enter, get back to your car and leave it will only cost maybe 40 minutes of your day to visit a park. Even if you just spend an hour or two the travel time is pretty much irrelevant.

If I lived that close and if they ever bring muffins back to Sunshine Seasons, I'd go some days just to have a blueberry muffin for breakfast.
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I could possibly do that if my kids were older. But since my kids are 2-8 years old, and I would take them when my husband was at work so it was just me alone entertaining the kiddos in line and holding the toddler when she was tired, going just to wait in a couple of 45-60 minute lines isn’t really feasible. My solo trips with the kids were possible because I used to have 3 FPs guaranteed for my family each day trip. And since we live off of my husband’s lone income (as a CM, no less), spending $45 bucks a day on LL isn’t exactly feasible.

I mean, I get it. Disney couldn’t WAIT to get rid of families like me who clogged up the lines and spent very little money. But still. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t sad about our days of weekly trips with the kids to Disney being behind us and probably never coming back. First world problems, sure…but still sad a company who just added the “inclusion” key did everything they could to not include people in the lower classes.

alright, pity party over. ;)
 
TikibirdLand

TikibirdLand

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natatomic said:
I hate that resort guests get all the ILLs. I live 2 miles away, so if I wanted an ILL, I either just don’t ever get one, or I shell out hundreds of dollars to sleep in a bed that I don’t need since I live nearby. That is a SUPER expensive way to skip the line.

Even with FP+, I was never bitter about resort guests getting to book 60 days in advance compared to my 7 (this was back when I was a CM). I still could book almost anything I wanted, even day of (although, yes, it might have taken quite a bit of refreshing for certain rides). So resort guests still had an advantage but I wasn’t entirely out of luck. This system really screws locals and CMs.
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It's gonna make a ILL more expensive (by quite a bit)... Could you do a rental stall at FW? I believe it's the cheapest of all the locations. Then, you'd get in with all the rest. You shouldn't have to pull those stunts. But, Disney isn't playing fair either.
 
Jeff4272

Jeff4272

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Jrb1979 said:
Let me guess. No advanced booking, not enough availability and that it's not free anymore.
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This and many others. Do you not see that as a problem?

Other than waking up at 7am EVERY day when I’m on vacation, the second worst thing of Genie is that you Can’t pick return times We don’t go to the parks before 3pm ever. Genie+ is 100% ineffective for us. There is not one thing about genie+ that is good.

paying $15k for a vacation and not knowing if you can get on the headliners without a 2 hour wait is the third biggest problem.
 
dovetail65

dovetail65

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gorillaball said:
If I’m on property can I purchase individual lightning lane at 7a for mixed party, IE: 2 on property and 2 off property?
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Nope. You will only be able to get the LL for onsite guests until the LL is available for everyone. And there is even a glitch to sometime during the day even when these other 2 should be able to get LL that an error pops up and says "cant make LL because not a resort guest".

With that kind of glitch maybe you can get lucky and the glitch go the other way(unlikely). For me it will and did exclude the people in the party without a resort reservation through the app.

4 people cost what 2 do, don't they? Put those 2 people on the hotel reservation and fast and add them to your party in the app!
 
dovetail65

dovetail65

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Tuvalu said:
Disney resorts have an additional adult fee (up to $25 plus tax) for each person 18 years and older.

Exception for DVC villas.
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What hotel is that, 2 cost what 4 does. I just checked 2 hotel, 5 days in May, I put in 2 guests and then put in 4 guests and the total cost the same for both. That must be for the cheaper hotels or something the moderates or economy maybe?

Dam charging more for those over 18 just another ding I guess, my gosh. You know paying 680 a night at the Contemp maybe I better go back and look at those receipts, not that it does me any good now. IF as you say I was probably tagged a crap load I never even noticed.

When do they charge this, after I get to the hotel? I just tried again and at check out to pay it does not reflect the extra per person fees. I do see where it charges that on many places of the site, even more for the deluxe like 35.00 per adult?

Does AP or in state effect this, maybe my setting give me an advantage? I need look into this I have bee to Disney 40 times and dont think I ever ran into this, of course 6 of the kids only 2 were ever over 18 for those large trips maybe I was capped out already getting villas or two rooms. Some of those trips before 2019, maybe that matters or maybe I dropped so much money I just didn't notice. J

These are the extra charges but when I go to pay it just does not reflect it, weird:

When staying at a Disney Resort hotel, the standard room rate includes the first two Guests over the age of 18 years and any Guests under the age of 18 years. ... Currently, this fee is $15 per additional adult at Value Resorts, $25 per additional adult at Moderate Resorts, and $35 per additional adult at Deluxe Resorts
 
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gorillaball

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dovetail65 said:
Nope. You will only be able to get the LL for onsite guests until the LL is available for everyone. And there is even a glitch to sometime during the day even when these other 2 should be able to get LL that an error pops up and says "cant make LL because not a resort guest".

With that kind of glitch maybe you can get lucky and the glitch go the other way(unlikely). For me it will and did exclude the people in the party without a resort reservation through the app.

4 people cost what 2 do, don't they? Put those 2 people on the hotel reservation and fast and add them to your party in the app!
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Same true for “Disney Partner” hotel? Or for individual lightning lane does that have the same availability as on property?
 
dovetail65

dovetail65

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gorillaball said:
Same true for “Disney Partner” hotel? Or for individual lightning lane does that have the same availability as on property?
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I can only guess it the same. I didn't stay in a partner hotel and ever be in the app and try Genie so its conjecture.

My wife and I will be down Feb 1 to March 4th. So we will test off site, onsite and partner and use genie and then I'll know. I suspect the onsite and partner will be the same and there will be far less glitches than last time.

I just hope that glitch that demanded I be a resort guest to even pay the 14 bucks doesn't happen again at 2 pm while in the park. It's one thing charging, but if they go to only resort guests can use LL as a rule(no one has ever said nor hinted that, just saying), that might push me to the edge of not going just on principle. I am not there yet.
 
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Trauma

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Right of first refusal is 1000% pro Disney here. They can block sales for any reason…including if they detect a dump. They also fix prices…which is ironic because DVC diehard defenders claim that the price is “market”…which isn’t true academically due to the price fixing.
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This is normally true but not entirely. I have the bulk of my points at no costs to me. The only thing I will ever pay on them is the maintenance fee that’s is far less than the cost of a comparable room.
 

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