HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

[Supersnow84]

Does it really suffer from this problem when until frozen opened HK’s problem was not so much quality but actual quantity

Like I could see the validity of this complaint if this land opened in say……the magic kingdom- “largest frozen land ever TWO attractions and a meet and greet” and one of the two attractions is wandering oaks when magic has a functionally infinite budget but for HK the problem before frozen was there simply wasn’t enough to do in the park for either half of the demographic

More older fans only had RC, space, Ironman and BGMRMC and kids had slinky, dumbo, teacups and Astro orbiters while the rest have broad appeal to everyone

Like the coaster never tries to pretend it’s BGMRMC’s, it’s just a flat positive addition to a park that needed additions

 

[BrianLo]

Like the coaster never tries to pretend it’s BGMRMC’s, it’s just a flat positive addition to a park that needed additions

Sure, after you've ridden it. To the general public, this looks like you are in for SDMT. You absolutely cannot tell you are looking at essentially the entire coaster.

Again, it's not a hard criticism from my end. It's gorgeous. But I understand how people can be surprised and not really understand what they are lining up for.

 

[J4546]

it really is a gorgeous coaster imo

 

[Timothy_Q]

It's amazing how perfectly the rockwork blends with the real mountain

 

[DarkMetroid567]

HK Arendelle in general turned out much better than Frozen’s representation in Fantasy Springs. How did that even happen?

 

[BrianLo]

HK Arendelle in general turned out much better than Frozen’s representation in Fantasy Springs. How did that even happen?

One hundred percent agree. I don't even think the E-ticket at TDS is unfathomably better than the plussed Frozen Ever After.

It goes to show how the Disneyland scaling can sometimes work to its benefit with packing way more into tight spaces.

 

[LameBoi]

HK Arendelle in general turned out much better than Frozen’s representation in Fantasy Springs. How did that even happen?

I think it’s unfortunate (or fortunate for HK’s version) that the town of Arendelle in Fantasy Springs is just some toilets. HK’s Arendelle feels much more alive with shops, restaurants, and lived in citizens. Tokyo may have the best Frozen ride, but HK has the best land.

 

[Supersnow84]

I honestly think it’s because fantasy springs is just a “bad” land so to speak

HK arendelle is fantastic for what it is but it pretty much gave exactly what it was designed to be

Fantasy springs meanwhile feels like an oversized new fantasyland

It’s still incredible but it seems like it took all the worst lessons from the last 20 years of imagineering

 

[DarkMetroid567]

I honestly think it’s because fantasy springs is just a “bad” land so to speak

HK arendelle is fantastic for what it is but it pretty much gave exactly what it was designed to be

Fantasy springs meanwhile feels like an oversized new fantasyland

It’s still incredible but it seems like it took all the worst lessons from the last 20 years of imagineering

Fantasy Springs makes me wonder how much creative input or mandate OLC actually gives, because the entire expansion is so bizarrely unlike anything Imagineering has recently done.

 

[Supersnow84]

Fantasy Springs makes me wonder how much creative input or mandate OLC actually gives, because the entire expansion is so bizarrely unlike anything Imagineering has recently done.

Like I said to me it basically feels like where imagineering was around the era of new fantasyland

Wide sprawling paths and vistas and big facades hiding show buildings but hardly anything beyond that

Like when I went to Tokyo I was so intent on getting into fantasy springs I never expected to not actually want to stay once I rode the ride I booked

 

[LameBoi]

Fantasy Springs makes me wonder how much creative input or mandate OLC actually gives, because the entire expansion is so bizarrely unlike anything Imagineering has recently done.

From a Japanese perspective, Fantasy Springs may make sense in that DisneySea is all about water and hot springs are sort of mythical in their culture. It is very jarring from a western perspective though. FS is very IP heavy for a park that is famous for integrating them subtly and well along with original stories i.e S.E.A. Of course the local audience wanted more “Disney” so OLC gave it to them.

 

[PymParty]

Any news on the next expansion or addition at HKDL ? I know Spiderman ToT has been vaguely announced, but we don't have any timeframe. WOF has already been open for over a year now and no work has started on anything new...

 

[Supersnow84]

I’m assuming they are probably waiting for the full year data after WOF opened to give to LegCo to show the positive direction of the park before they go any further

 

[Gusey]

Any news on the next expansion or addition at HKDL ? I know Spiderman ToT has been vaguely announced, but we don't have any timeframe. WOF has already been open for over a year now and no work has started on anything new...

All we know at the moment is Spiderman ToT and a reimagining of an exisiting attraction (just not which), as well as the 20th anniversary parade that still needs to be officially announced. The good thing with HKDL is that when they do announce any investments, they usually show a full map of the park and where the attractions will be

 

[European1992]

Visited this park on Sunday and it was a great experience. It was spotless, not crowded, great attractions. Tomorrowland is the only weak spot with its look, but the Iron Man ride is better than the usual Star Wars one, I did not get motion sickness.

 

[Aramar]

It seems PhilharMagic is indeed getting the Coco scene:

 

[Supersnow84]

It seems PhilharMagic is indeed getting the Coco scene:

Still wondering if that’s the “reimagining” in the budget or just a “routine maintenance” sorta thing

 

[BrianLo]

Still wondering if that’s the “reimagining” in the budget or just a “routine maintenance” sorta thing

Glorified Maintenance. It’s just a segment inserted into a digital film.

 

[Supersnow84]

It’s an interesting point that I’ve noticed opinions on HK swinging around in Disney fan listening posts

A lot of blogs that rank the 12 parks now put HK strongly in the middle of the parks (I’ve seen it as high as 5 or 6 with strong justification) and a lot of the Disney subreddits now seem to be more strongly entertaining the idea of doing a HK/Tokyo trip rather than just Tokyo

It’ll be interesting to see guest numbers this year

 

[LameBoi]

It’s an interesting point that I’ve noticed opinions on HK swinging around in Disney fan listening posts

A lot of blogs that rank the 12 parks now put HK strongly in the middle of the parks (I’ve seen it as high as 5 or 6 with strong justification) and a lot of the Disney subreddits now seem to be more strongly entertaining the idea of doing a HK/Tokyo trip rather than just Tokyo

It’ll be interesting to see guest numbers this year

I see this opinion going around in the community too. The ease of access to HK from Tokyo and vice-versa makes bundling the 2 resorts a no brainer. Another opinion I see is that HKDL, in its current form, feels just like Disneyland was back in the day when that park only had Pirates and Mansion.

I love Tokyo, but people going to TDR for the first time expecting it to be the best parks in the world will be quite disappointed if they don’t do their homework. Tokyo is very hardcore with people lining up hours before park opening because DPA and Standby Passes can ONLY be bought once entering the park and having your ticket scanned. Anna and Elsa’s frozen journey usually sells out at around 9:30am. The vast majority of the crowd lined up haven’t even passed security yet. It is a “pay to win” park while still requiring you to play in order to get the opportunity to pay. Stage shows are under a lottery system that is one and done. It is very important to plan or cough up the dough to buy a vacation package when going to Tokyo.