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Has the entire resort ever been completely shuttered in 50 years?
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Pepper's Ghost
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Unprecedented. Although I realize how serious and awful COVID-19 is, I don't understand why this one is so much worse than H1N1 which killed >151,700 people. Why wasn't there a similar reaction to that one? This is a sincere question by the way.
Good question. I don’t think there’s been a good job done of explaining this. I was going to type a mini essay, but then realized I’m tired and google exists.
Former CDC director: Covid-19 is different from flu and we must respond differently | CNN
There are similarities and differences between Covid-19 and the flu, but we know much less about the novel coronavirus. As we look at what happened in China, and what's happening now in Italy, it's easy to adopt a fatalistic attitude that "there's nothing we can do, we're all going to get it...
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Tom Morrow
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It seems that the two factors that make this bigger than H1N1 are that its extremely contagious, it can survive outside of hosts for several days, and many people who have it may not even know it.
TrainsOfDisney
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Not only has the resort never closed, the parks have never closed for even a whole week.
Chef Mickey
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It’s all perception of what is your measure of “worse.” If people dying is your measure, the regular old flu killed 80,000 Americans in a single year just 2 years ago, and likely over 500,000 worldwide...but no one thinks twice about it.
If the unknown worries you, this is a new virus with no vaccine or treatment.
Still, does it require this level of economic Armageddon? I think we’ll look back and see this was probably overkill, but What’s the cost of being wrong? Who knows.
My issue with all of this is really 2 things:
1) The media is doing a disservice by creating more panic, in my opinion. They are constantly projecting, speculating, and extrapolating. Looking at the raw numbers, I don’t see it...yet. Maybe I will, but <100 deaths of mostly elderly in the US is certainly not congruent with the current panic level.
2) The efforts to contain are simply not aggressive enough if you’re doing a full quarantine. We didn’t implement and still aren’t implementing it nearly as well as China. We can’t, for many reasons. So I question the long term viability of doing this. What’s the end game? No cases? Fewer cases? When do we go back to life?
In the end, the flu is underrated...this is probably overrated. The virus is out now, so we are going to find out how bad it is. I personally think millions of people have it with little or no symptoms, which means we are going to be OK. Mortality rate is likely drastically lower due to unreported cases.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Not even close..:this is unprecedented and hopefully a one time deal.
Disney parks and resorts have been in operation everyday somewhere since 7/17/1955. That will no longer be the case this Friday or sooner
Disney parks and resorts have been in operation everyday somewhere since 7/17/1955. That will no longer be the case this Friday or sooner
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Giss Neric
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This is a good sign...
www.foxnews.com
Shanghai Disney Resort launches 'phased reopening,' requires guests wear masks 'during their entire visit'
Shanghai Disney Resort has reopened a limited number of "shopping, dining and recreational experiences" — but not the theme park itself.
www.foxnews.com
Pretty sure it didn’t operate the day of Kennedy’s funeral. There’s also the argument for when it wasn’t open 7 days a week.
Regardless, it’s still unprecedented in this day and age.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I meant including hotels/retail complexes. The Kennedy assassination might be the only exception to that...I would think. Definitely not since wdw and then Tokyo came on line.
The scale of this is amazing
I clarified the post...made it a little more “wordy”
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Indeed here would be the list below...
In fact - the day Kennedy was assassinated would be the only potential day as Disney did not own any hotel or outside retail outlets at the time...
Kennedy was shot at 12:30 pm central Time on 11/22/63. So would Disneyland have been open at 10:30 pst and been evacuated?
Interesting sequence of events this week - for sure.
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In fact - the day Kennedy was assassinated would be the only potential day as Disney did not own any hotel or outside retail outlets at the time...
Kennedy was shot at 12:30 pm central Time on 11/22/63. So would Disneyland have been open at 10:30 pst and been evacuated?
Interesting sequence of events this week - for sure.
How many times have Walt Disney World, Disneyland closed?
How many times has Disney closed? The answer may surprise you.
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Kamikaze
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This is untrue. Disneyland did not operate every single day for the entire year til the 80s. Disneyland Hotel was not operated by Disney, so on every day it was closed until WDW opened, all Disney P&R were closed. And with parts of SDL reopening, it will not be the case that the entire division is shut down at once.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Are we trying to “downplay” the scope of this...comfort in semantics?
How about this: “first time all normal operations of Disney labeled parks and resorts have been off their normal schedule due to emergency with the lone possible exception of the Kennedy assassination...and Aluani...for now...if you can get there without planes or boats”
I’ll stick with “unprecedented”...I like that word.
I’d Shanghai reopens...that will make it all ok.
I just saw that the Chinese expelled US press from some major outlets...that’s encouraging
“Nothing to see here”
The Empress Lilly
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I read that the lockdown saves more lives from pollution, traffic, alcohol than from Covid-19. Except in the most pessimistic pandemic scenarios.
Which gives one pause for thought. We all but halt society to prevent a flu with a 96% survival rate, but not to save the planet.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Easy there...
I’m a firm believer that you really can’t effectively block money and politics from any adult discussion...it colors all things...
But we need to try. Almost every thread is off the political rails at this point except the self-aggrandizing stupidity ones.
Hopefully we can debate the state of the environment again soon
Kamikaze
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Are we trying to “downplay” the scope of this...comfort in semantics?
How about this: “first time all normal operations of Disney labeled parks and resorts have been off their normal schedule due to emergency with the lone possible exception of the Kennedy assassination...and Aluani...for now...if you can get there without planes or boats”
I’ll stick with “unprecedented”...I like that word.
I’d Shanghai reopens...that will make it all ok.
I just saw that the Chinese expelled US press from some major outlets...that’s encouraging
“Nothing to see here”
No, I'm just correcting your information which was not factual. I did not make any other statements.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Point taken...I’m in the margins on this. I’ll stand by “unprecedented”
Good news is Rise of the Abrams will be available on D+ soon...AMA RIGHT?!?
Phroobar
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or you can read the expanded book today while you are on lock down.
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