TrainsOfDisney
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“Donald Trump was the 45th President of the United States. Joseph Biden is the 46th President of the United States”
Those are safely on the side of American History.
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Rumor Hall of Presidents Replaced by Muppets American History Show???
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Those are safely on the side of American History.
LittleBuford
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The difference between The Simpsons and Family Guy is quite stark in my opinion. I can see why Disney would lean into its ownership of the former but not of the latter. As I said, it’s not just a question of adult humour; The Simpsons (and Deadpool for that matter) have heart in addition to edginess.
Those are undeniable facts and sadly the gullible few who drink the Kool Aid think otherwise. That is one the reasons that creates unnecessary division.
Wendy Pleakley
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"Heart" is kind of a weird or vague criteria to me, in terms of a decision to connect a character(s) to Disney parks, which are generally geared to all ages.
Deadpool is extremely violent and has a lot of adult language. The character is arguably inappropriate for a Disney theme park. I don't buy the presence of "heart" as a reason to use him but not Family Guy.
LittleBuford
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To be clear, I’m not advocating for the presence of Deadpool or The Simpsons at the parks. My point is only that Family Guy would be even less well suited.
TeriofTerror
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"That was Then, This is Now" - The Monkees
Po'Rich
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To everyone who is suggesting that the Hall of Presidents should close (for a variety of reasons), I don't see it happening. First, Disney would suffer a BUNCH of bad press for being non-patriotic by closing it. If Trump wins, he and his followers will see its closure as an offense. If Harris wins, Disney would be closing the attraction right before the first female president. There is no way to close this attraction at this point without Disney taking a serious PR hit.
doctornick
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And none of that makes the attraction divisive. That’s entirely on the guests not on the attraction. The show is exceedingly neutral and unassuming and is merely a roll call and the acknowledgement of who has held the office.
Wendy Pleakley
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They could close prior to an election period.
They could re-open as expected next year, and say at the time that this is the last update.
Before we know who the next inductee will be.
LittleBuford
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If I can try to put it as neutrally as possible, politics is inherently divisive, and any attraction devoted to a political office (which the presidency obviously is) cannot but be impacted by that. Whether that’s the fault of guests or not is irrelevant to the reality of the situation.
doctornick
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That’s been my take. For anyone who thinks that Disney would suffer bad PR from continuing to operate this, their real risk is the big backlash they will get for closing it. No, I’m not saying that will dramatically harm the company but it will contribute to already existing sentiments that Disney is political and biased.
The apolitical thing to do is to continue to let it operate as it always has. Realistically no one can have any beef with Disney simple continuing on as a lack of action is generally accepted where a action that changes things is more scrutinized
Brer Panther
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I fully agree;
A very good point.
Yet. I wouldn't put anything past Disney at this point.
Moth
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Family Guy, and most Fox adult animation series sans Simpsons, maybe Bob's Burgers for the food concept alone and possibly Futurama (which was at Springs!) will never be seen in any capacity at any Disney Parks or experience.
Those three are safe, not much in those that wouldn't be seen in a PG-13 MCU or SW film sans some themes that can easily be toned down for parks representation/ignored all together.
Family Guy, American Dad, and whatever else are completely different monsters and operate on a more adult scale than what I feel Disney would be comfortable with. Deadpool is an exception due to the character being popular with teenagers and being relatively easy to tone down (even had a PG-13 film already!).
Some R rated properties, such as Alien and Predator, can be turned into theme park attractions and I can see Disney exploring these IPs due to their legacy and popularity along with making these attractions for the 13+ crowd. Something like the 'Nostromo' concept finally becoming reality would be an easy bone to throw.
But Family Guy in terms of its R-rating is more than the violence seen in Alien and Predator, it's the language and content seen in it. I don't expect it to ever touch the parks in any manner. I see Simpsons in the children's toy aisle at Target and Walmart, I even have a Homer on my work desk, I saw Alien and Predator toys in the children's toy aisle a few years back also, you'd never see Family Guy in those aisles, and to a greater extent, at a Disney park.
Those three are safe, not much in those that wouldn't be seen in a PG-13 MCU or SW film sans some themes that can easily be toned down for parks representation/ignored all together.
Family Guy, American Dad, and whatever else are completely different monsters and operate on a more adult scale than what I feel Disney would be comfortable with. Deadpool is an exception due to the character being popular with teenagers and being relatively easy to tone down (even had a PG-13 film already!).
Some R rated properties, such as Alien and Predator, can be turned into theme park attractions and I can see Disney exploring these IPs due to their legacy and popularity along with making these attractions for the 13+ crowd. Something like the 'Nostromo' concept finally becoming reality would be an easy bone to throw.
But Family Guy in terms of its R-rating is more than the violence seen in Alien and Predator, it's the language and content seen in it. I don't expect it to ever touch the parks in any manner. I see Simpsons in the children's toy aisle at Target and Walmart, I even have a Homer on my work desk, I saw Alien and Predator toys in the children's toy aisle a few years back also, you'd never see Family Guy in those aisles, and to a greater extent, at a Disney park.
LittleBuford
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I don’t understand the point of this kind of thinking. Obviously there are things Disney just wouldn’t do. Why pretend otherwise? It just seems like a futile exercise in working yourself up over nothing.
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
We have American Adventure... It is done significantly better and more entertaining (especially for a theme park). I would welcome Liberty Square re-themed to Muppets with open arms.
I'd personally be ok with Muppet Vision moving to this theatre, and having Great Moments come back outside the theatre, and then lets add a muppets interactive meet n' greet somewhere here. It'd be great. I am totally down for Muppets encompassing the "education on America" thing that Disney obviously wants to do with them... Much like how they sort of added small muppets details to Regal Eagle at AA in Epcot.
Do it.
And this is coming from a person who is a fan of animatronic shows. HoP was never there for me. Just so blah.... And now, it's blah and tense given the modern political climate.
I'd personally be ok with Muppet Vision moving to this theatre, and having Great Moments come back outside the theatre, and then lets add a muppets interactive meet n' greet somewhere here. It'd be great. I am totally down for Muppets encompassing the "education on America" thing that Disney obviously wants to do with them... Much like how they sort of added small muppets details to Regal Eagle at AA in Epcot.
Do it.
And this is coming from a person who is a fan of animatronic shows. HoP was never there for me. Just so blah.... And now, it's blah and tense given the modern political climate.
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
I was going to bring up Deadpool. You can't make him unincluded just because "he's popular." Those others shows are popular, too.
I believe it is definitely a possibility to see Simpsons and Bob's Burgers in a Disney park. Easy. Heck, it's not like they're tip-toeing around shows like Family Guy's existence. He had his own little clip at the Disney+ event. That speaks wonders.
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
I do.
I don't think they care anymore. They got backlash for Splash. They got backlash for Riverboat/TSI. They can get backlash for this one. As long as it makes more money, they don't care. They know that "backlash" will die down one day.
Unless they close it beforehand. That'd be nice, too.
Moth
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Deadpool has been in projects aimed at the younger crowd before, such as the aforementioned PG-13 version of Deadpool 2. I just feel Deadpool is in a different boat than seeing Peter and Roger in a Disney park due to the fact he's been marketed to kids before in cartoons, and his connections to the Marvel branding
I can see the Drunken Clam at Disney Springs eventually. Springs can probably play more loose than the parks themselves.
Brer Panther
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I bet Sam the Eagle would be furious if he found out about this.
The Leader of the Club
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Peter Griffin is in Fortnite. The line has been, and will probably continue to be, blurred.