News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

[El_Tomato]

Therin lies a problem.

So, what’s up with these huge amounts of money invested in the construction of a single, more often than not mediocre attraction? Money laundering? Stupidity?

 

[ToTBellHop]

So, what’s up with these huge amounts of money invested in the construction of a single, more often than not mediocre attraction? Money laundering? Stupidity?

They are flying Joe Rohde and a team of 74 Imagineers to Xandar on 7 research trips.

 

[Horizons '83]

So, what’s up with these huge amounts of money invested in the construction of a single, more often than not mediocre attraction? Money laundering? Stupidity?

Assumed ROI...

 

[El_Tomato]

They are flying Joe Rohde and a team of 74 Imagineers to Xandar on 7 research trips.

I mean, it’s not like these trips didn’t have any effect on the themed lands built by Joe and his team (which, IMHO, are way up there with TDS’s level of immersion - Animal Kingdom as a whole is a great example of this). After all, how expensive can these trips be, right?



Right?

 

[Bairstow]

I just don't get why they are moving away from these type of attractions. These attractions were always a favorite of mine. Still to this day, my family goes on the dark rides instead of the newer coasters. If I remember correctly, most of these rides/attractions were people eaters.

I think the long-term Disney faithful have a much more enthusiastic opinion of the slow-moving edutainment Epcot attractions than did the general public.

 

[V_L_Raptor]

I mean, it’s not like these trips didn’t have any effect on the themed lands built by Joe and his team (which, IMHO, are way up there with TDS’s level of immersion - Animal Kingdom as a whole is a great example of this). After all, how expensive can these trips be, right?



Right?

Ask after the tab comes back from him communing with the spirits of the Celestials.

 

[Missing20K]

I mean, it’s not like these trips didn’t have any effect on the themed lands built by Joe and his team (which, IMHO, are way up there with TDS’s level of immersion - Animal Kingdom as a whole is a great example of this). After all, how expensive can these trips be, right?



Right?

I'd say on par with a tricked out GF trip. Lots of TS dinners, no CS meals, lots of adult kool-aid. The more I think about it, the research trips could be less expensive.

 

[justintheharris]

They had the following:

• Spaceship Earth
• Universe of Energy
• Journey into Imagination
• Honey I shrunk the audience
• Living with the Land
• Food Rocks
• Horizons
• World of Motion
• Seacabs
• Cranium Command

All of which were family friendly I haven't included things like Body Wars for that very reason all of which were open at the beginning of 1990s and that is where they started to fail.

Soarin replaced food rocks, honey I shrunk the audience traumatized me as a kid so it’s a stretch to say it’s family friendly but was replaced y the Pixar Short Film Festival anyways and Journey Into Imagination, the Seas and Living With The Land are still present

 

[huwar18]

Soarin replaced food rocks, honey I shrunk the audience traumatized me as a kid so it’s a stretch to say it’s family friendly but was replaced y the Pixar Short Film Festival anyways and Journey Into Imagination, the Seas and Living With The Land are still present

The idea is to show how many family friendly attractions were replaced by rides that are not family friendly. You can argue that Soarin' is a family attraction. However, there is a height restriction. Personally, I do not count Pixar Short Film Festival. Most of the shorts are on their DVD specials.

 

[justintheharris]

The idea is to show how many family friendly attractions were replaced by rides that are not family friendly. You can argue that Soarin' is a family attraction. However, there is a height restriction. Personally, I do not count Pixar Short Film Festival. Most of the shorts are on their DVD specials.

The Pixar Film Festival is still a movie in the same theater and therefore has the same capacity. It’s even 4D. They didn’t replace nearly enough family friendly attractions to increase the wait time for Spaceship Earth that drastically is my point.

 

[sedati]

I just don't get why they are moving away from these type of attractions. These attractions were always a favorite of mine. Still to this day, my family goes on the dark rides instead of the newer coasters. If I remember correctly, most of these rides/attractions were people eaters.

I have a hard time calling anything that someone could take a nap on a "ride." "Conveyance," may be a better term.
Putting people on what is basically a conveyor belt with seats is a brilliant way to get great hourly numbers. Epcot's problem was using it for almost every attraction. I'm willing to put up with longer lines and shorter rides for a bit of speed or unique ride system. I'm also willing to sacrifice some ride time for a more involved queue instead of a un-themed switchback. As with all things, it's all about balance. I'm looking forward to Tron/Guardians, but would also love to see what a slow moving diorama attraction would look like with the technology of today.

 

[mikejs78]

The real issue is fastpass plus. In general actually. Omnimover rides should not have fastpasses. Before fastpass plus, I never saw SSE with more than a 10 minute wait. Now it regularly hits 50 minutes.

Other than innoventions and Universe of Energy (which NOBODY went on anyways), I really don't see much of what got taken out. Spaceship Earth's wait time being 50 minutes is a very recent thing. Test Track and Mission:Space existed in the period in which it was only about a 10 minute wait so it's hard to blame the height requirements on those attractions.

Some people went on UoE. Also, Sum of all Thrills was pretty popular.

Also keep in mind that Epcot's attendance has spiked quite a bit in recent years. The bigger crowds + the decrease in capacity = longer lines.

 

[huwar18]

I have a hard time calling anything that someone could take a nap on a "ride." "Conveyance," may be a better term.
Putting people on what is basically a conveyor belt with seats is a brilliant way to get great hourly numbers. Epcot's problem was using it for almost every attraction. I'm willing to put up with longer lines and shorter rides for a bit of speed or unique ride system. I'm also willing to sacrifice some ride time for a more involved queue instead of a un-themed switchback. As with all things, it's all about balance. I'm looking forward to Tron/Guardians, but would also love to see what a slow moving diorama attraction would look like with the technology of today.

That would be the best use fOr the parks. The parks need a balance of thrill and dark rides. However, I feel like they are moving away from those old dark rides and going to straight thrill. I love dark rides. I wouldn’t mind if all rides were dark rides. That wouldn’t be good for the parks.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I have a hard time calling anything that someone could take a nap on a "ride." "Conveyance," may be a better term.
Putting people on what is basically a conveyor belt with seats is a brilliant way to get great hourly numbers. Epcot's problem was using it for almost every attraction. I'm willing to put up with longer lines and shorter rides for a bit of speed or unique ride system. I'm also willing to sacrifice some ride time for a more involved queue instead of a un-themed switchback. As with all things, it's all about balance. I'm looking forward to Tron/Guardians, but would also love to see what a slow moving diorama attraction would look like with the technology of today.

I'm amazed how some people think a bunch of dioramas with little movement and a recorded dialogue is superior to a live show with an excellent live performance.

The former is ridden over and over again precisely because it's "a ride". The latter gets regarded as not worth it because it's "not a ride."

Yes, I know that's not all people. But there are folks who only "count rides" when they list what a park has to offer. They count the slowly-passing-by dioramas as one of the attractions and then ignore a fantastic show because your seat doesn't move... crazy.

As an example, just think of how much better the American Adventure is compared to Spaceship Earth. And AmAd has a bunch of dioramic scenes and much superior AAs than SE. But when it comes to listing what Epcot has to offer, guess which often gets on the list and which is often left off.

 

[sedati]

However, I feel like they are moving away from those old dark rides and going to straight thrill. I love dark rides.

Well, they did try:

And to my utter bewilderment, this is not a popular ride. This could have been seen as a lesson learned.

 

[deWild]

Completely out of left field, but after having watched Ant-Man and the Wasp, is there a possibility the Life pavilion could be used for Ant-Man related attractions? The quantum realm is almost identical to the concept in Body Wars...

 

[Dunston]

Completely out of left field, but after having watched Ant-Man and the Wasp, is there a possibility the Life pavilion could be used for Ant-Man related attractions? The quantum realm is almost identical to the concept in Body Wars...

No, because he's a founding Avenger and the Avengers are part of Universal's Marvel contract.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Well, they did try:

And to my utter bewilderment, this is not a popular ride. This could have been seen as a lesson learned.

Sinbad is my favorite attraction at TDS! I love it

 

[doctornick]

That would be the best use fOr the parks. The parks need a balance of thrill and dark rides. However, I feel like they are moving away from those old dark rides and going to straight thrill. I love dark rides. I wouldn’t mind if all rides were dark rides. That wouldn’t be good for the parks.

While they are a bit frenetic, both Ratatouille and the Mickey ride are currently being built dark rides for WDW that are all ages. You can argue the quality, but Na'vi River Journey is a dark ride and all ages. It sounds like the Mary Poppins ride for the UK, if it happens, will be a smaller scale dark ride.

So, I don't think it is safe to say that Disney is moving away from such rides completely, though they do tend to favor more thrilling rides especially for E-tickets.

 

[doctornick]

Also, Sum of all Thrills was pretty popular.

Um, no. SoaT was a virtually unknown and minimally advertised ride. For good reason: it had absolutely horrendous capacity. Just spitballing but it probably had a throughput of something like 200 people/hr.