News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

[Master Yoda]

People love to talk about what great capacity it had. Uh yeah, it had a ton of capacity and ran empty half the time because nobody liked it.

So true. 4000 guests an hour doesn't mean squat if only 1000 want to ride it.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

So true. 4000 guests an hour doesn't mean squat if only 1000 want to ride it.

To play devil's advocate, the one semi-compelling counter argument I've heard is that it was valuable as surge capacity. Give people SOMETHING to do without waiting two hours during major holiday periods.

 

[Master Yoda]

To play devil's advocate, the one semi-compelling counter argument I've heard is that it was valuable as surge capacity. Give people SOMETHING to do without waiting two hours during major holiday periods.

True. but you could also do that for a lot less with a flex theater and a 30-minute version of any Disney Broadway show.

 

[Casper Gutman]

True. but you could also do that for a lot less with a flex theater and a 30-minute version of any Disney Broadway show.

Which WDW also won’t build. Soooo…

 

[HauntedPirate]

To play devil's advocate, the one semi-compelling counter argument I've heard is that it was valuable as surge capacity. Give people SOMETHING to do without waiting two hours during major holiday periods.

I’d buy that. Or… don’t update it once in 35 years?

 

[celluloid]

I’d buy that. Or… don’t update it once in 35 years?

I think that is more to the point. The ride never had any updates after Ellen's change so the core of the ride was over three decades old and unkept. It is the same issue with Carousel of Progress. Great Capacity, and used to earn it.

 

[UNCgolf]

So true. 4000 guests an hour doesn't mean squat if only 1000 want to ride it.

That's mainly because it was ancient, though. It's not like the ride had trouble filling up when it was new.

It obviously needed an overhaul, and even building something completely new is okay (although preferably not a Guardians roller coaster) -- but cutting capacity as much as they have is really short-sighted (or maybe not since they can just sell access instead).

 

[celluloid]

That's mainly because it was ancient, though. It's not like the ride had trouble filling up when it was new.

It obviously needed an overhaul, and even building something completely new is okay (although preferably not a Guardians roller coaster) -- but cutting capacity as much as they have is really short-sighted (or maybe not since they can just sell access instead).

Right. The argument is moot because at the end of the day, you can have a great ride with great efficiency as all of the original EPOCOT attractions were as well as in the other theme parks. They used to be in applied keys for a reason.

Maybe we will at least get a continuous moving platform load and unload for Guardians.

 

[doctornick]

Maybe we will at least get a continuous moving platform load and unload for Guardians.

I would imagine that would be pretty unlikely - do any roller coasters do that?

But the plans did seem to indicate dual loading platforms which helps with capacity.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The capacity of Ellen’s Energy Adventure highlights how Walt Disney Imagineering of today cannot accomplish what was done in the past. They need increasingly more to accomplish less. Despite a massive expansion and hundreds of millions of dollar the facility will still have a lower THRC.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I would imagine that would be pretty unlikely - do any roller coasters do that?

Hollywood Rip, Ride, Rock It and Hagrid’s Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure are two nearby.

 

[HauntedPirate]

The capacity of Ellen’s Energy Adventure highlights how Walt Disney Imagineering of today cannot accomplish what was done in the past. They need increasingly more to accomplish less. Despite a massive expansion and hundreds of millions of dollar the facility will still have a lower THRC.

But… but… thrills! IP!!

 

[celluloid]

I would imagine that would be pretty unlikely - do any roller coasters do that?

But the plans did seem to indicate dual loading platforms which helps with capacity.

Yes. Universal has two. Busch Gardens in Tampa has one as it is not mentioned in the post above. Many coasters do that.

Disney has one in paris that continuously loads and unloads as well without a moving platform.

 

[Coaster Lover]

I would imagine that would be pretty unlikely - do any roller coasters do that?

But the plans did seem to indicate dual loading platforms which helps with capacity.

My how quickly we all forget that WDW had a coaster where the trains never stopped in the station... Primeval Whirl! It's actually VERY common for wild mouse coasters (both standard and spinning) to have continuously moving trains in the station. Coasters with multicar trains with this feature are less common, but the above posts named quite a few. To add to that list, all of the RMC Raptor model coasters use this feature (Jersey Devil, Wonder Woman, Railblazer, Stunt Pilot)

 

[tommyhawkins]

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr you can build a coaster that people want to ride that can handle 2000-2400 people per hour

 

[RSoxNo1]

Of note is Drax's appearance on the poster. There was some speculation that Drax was not allowed to be included. Now, this suspicion should have been eliminated by his appearance in The Great Movie Ride finale, but no matter.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Don't worry, if it needs more capacity they can just build another 160' tall box to fit a second track in, right?

 

[sedati]

The capacity of Ellen’s Energy Adventure highlights how Walt Disney Imagineering of today cannot accomplish what was done in the past. They need increasingly more to accomplish less. Despite a massive expansion and hundreds of millions of dollar the facility will still have a lower THRC.

Making your "ride" a glorified moving sidewalk gets boring real fast especially when your park has almost nothing but.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Making your "ride" a glorified moving sidewalk gets boring real fast especially when your park has almost nothing but.

If only Disney had a very expensive ride design group…

 

[UNCgolf]

Making your "ride" a glorified moving sidewalk gets boring real fast especially when your park has almost nothing but.

This complaint makes no sense because nobody ever seems to legitimately complain about a park having a bunch of roller coasters. It's the same thing. They're all varied experiences; the actual ride system is irrelevant.

For me, World of Motion and Spaceship Earth had a much larger experiential difference than something like the Incredible Hulk and Rip Ride Rockit. Of course it's subjective, but people seem to accept the latter as different experiences while acting like the former are exactly the same. They're not.