Or they could have a body double filmed from the back with Stan's recycled audio playing.
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News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot
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RandySavage
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I wish you were right, but once that building goes up, we'll see how it dominates. This is the Ratatouille building. Tron's building is twice (maybe 2.5x) its height.
The berm in that area isn't really a raised berm in the Hong Kong or Anaheim sense. Maybe they'll build and plant one around Tron because no trees (save 800-year old california redwoods ) are going to block it from Fantasyland, Storybook Circus, the Contemp or across Seven Seas Lagoon. It's money view from inner Tomorrowland (blocked by the cover) should be better, but even so it's clearly an enormous coaster shed.
Here's hoping I'm wrong on how this thing visually affects the MK.
Kman101
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Seems very few of us are in on this secret.
BrianLo
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I wish you were right, but once that building goes up, we'll see how it dominates. This is the Ratatouille building. Tron's building is twice (maybe 2.5x) its height.
The berm in that area isn't really a raised berm in the Hong Kong or Anaheim sense. Maybe they'll build and plant one around Tron because no trees (save 800-year old california redwoods ) are going to block it from Fantasyland, Storybook Circus, the Contemp or across Seven Seas Lagoon. It's money view from inner Tomorrowland (blocked by the cover) should be better, but even so it's clearly an enormous coaster shed.
Here's hoping I'm wrong on how this thing visually affects the MK.
I see what you mean, but I still picture it being peanuts compared to GoTG or Shanghai... Which begs the question: why is Florida so berm adverse?
Really there is barely two park in Disney’s stable with consistently good sight lines - Animal Kingdom and Hong Kong Disneyland.
tirian
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Yes, because standards and best practices do exist, even if people want to believe it’s just a matter of opinion.
This giant box is a new low for Disney. Back when the Swan and Dolphin opened, Eisner panicked and asked WDI to build a mountain range or something to hide the view from Epcot. We’ve come to accept the hotels and their oversized architecture, but at one time, the Disney CEO cared that much.
Dunston
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This is why I think Eisner gets a bad rep. Many people, especially Defunctland fans, focus on the end of his tenure as CEO and see only negative effects on the parks. In reality he cared a lot and expanded the parks so much as CEO. Cutting Beastly Kingdom and greenlighting Disney's California Adventure were bad ideas. And while it was a financial disaster, Disneyland Paris is a beautifully designed park.
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larryz
I'm Just A Tourist!
Berms built on sandy soil/swamp muck sink over time.
lazyboy97o
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It's not quite that drastic. Approximately 16m compared to about 25m for the bulk of the gravity building, so only a little more than 1.5x taller.
erasure fan1
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First off, I'm not acting like anything. I know it's not a new development as I've been complaining about it for a very long time. And just because they've been doing for a long time doesn't make it right. What you are saying still doesn't change the fact that when star wars opens, it will be grossly under capacity. It's time to stop letting Disney off the hook. They have had plenty of time to fix the capacity issues but they choose not to. You might be willing to give them a pass, but I choose to call them out when it's warranted.
I wish you were right, but once that building goes up, we'll see how it dominates. This is the Ratatouille building. Tron's building is twice (maybe 2.5x) its height.
The berm in that area isn't really a raised berm in the Hong Kong or Anaheim sense. Maybe they'll build and plant one around Tron because no trees (save 800-year old california redwoods ) are going to block it from Fantasyland, Storybook Circus, the Contemp or across Seven Seas Lagoon. It's money view from inner Tomorrowland (blocked by the cover) should be better, but even so it's clearly an enormous coaster shed.
Here's hoping I'm wrong on how this thing visually affects the MK.
The one advantage you're not fully taking into account is that there is some difference in the guest areas of MK being at a slightly higher elevation than the actual foundation level (ie the speed ramp in Space Mountain starts at sea level and brings you back up, eventually, to the guest level). It's not much but it does help throughout the park in keeping show buildings disguised. Mansion, Small World and Splash all have this elevation change, along with some clever WDI tricks, to keep the illusion in tact - and it works pretty well.
MrPromey
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Not to mention, the actual attraction run time of those older attractions was much, much longer than what we are seeing replace pre-existing stuff, today.
Marc Davis Fan
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I don’t think it’s the ground quality (it might require extra foundations, but it’s easily done, e.g., SWGE berm). When WDW was initially being developed, the only berm was DL’s, which was only to keep the real world out (rather than to subdivide lands). Since that was the only purpose conceived of for a berm at the time, WDW was thought not to need them, due to “the blessing of size.” Intra-park “berms” really only developed fully beginning with Disneyland Paris, which was of course after WDW’s first three parks.
That’s my understanding, anyway.
And DisneySea, and Disneyland Paris, IMHO.
Horizons78
Grade "A" Funny...
I’d pay cash money for @marni1971 to release an ultimate tribute video using a picture of the teacups attraction as the cover but then nothing but 45 minutes of pictures and exposition on the teacups for sale in the Twinings shop at Epcot.
This. The man brought us, with Frank the Disney Decade. He cared about entertainment, put his face and rep on it to "own bold moves" and took to Imagineering quickly when he glhumbled himself to the theme park bis.
Eisner gets a bad wrap due to his last decade. His first was a partnership made in heaven with Frank Wells.
Movielover
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Don't forget that Eisner also approved this...
and this...
Eisner had some great ideas and literally saved the company but then it all went down hill.
But I'll wait for the inevitable spin that you pull out of your rear to try and explain how none of this was Eisner's fault and is somehow linked to Iger. I'll wait
Movielover
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THE Monorail Lime
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Movielover
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I love that guy, wait are you him?
No, I'm just a avid fan!
RSoxNo1
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No offense to Martin, but there is a bias here. It's not exclusive to him, but there is a bias in this pre-opening opinion. Having said that, he probably knows more about the attraction than anyone posting in this thread.It won’t be intense. But I wouldn’t presume to call my opinion fact (not that I’m accusing anyone of this)