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News Guardians of the Galaxy attraction confirmed for Epcot

trainplane3

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That's well known. It's also a quick fix, panic reaction in a desperate attempt to boost attendance as opposed to doing the right thing.

In five years the area known as Futureworld could be a shell of its former self. Literally. We're on the cusp of possible irreparable physical damage being done to the park.

Like a few other things if it happens you'll know what I mean. If it doesn't I'll tell you about it sometime.
To me, this sounds like Project Gemini is fighting to come back. Make everything into a thrill ride. Is that where some of these ideas are being pulled from?

And on SSE being coaster-ized. Can someone remind them it'll cost big $$$ to reinforce the structure to handle the forces from a coaster? You know, get that idea shot down nice and quick? Unless there's a more extreme plan for SSE...
 

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
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To me, this sounds like Project Gemini is fighting to come back. Make everything into a thrill ride. Is that where some of these ideas are being pulled from?
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There's more that's proposed demolition-wise than just Innoventions. I can't say more for now but that's what I mean about irreparable damage.

And that's without the whole IP / theme / story / dumb down argument.
 

Tavernacle12

Well-Known Member
There's more that's proposed demolition-wise than just Innoventions. I can't say more for now but that's what I mean about irreparable damage.

And that's without the whole IP / theme / story / dumb down argument.
That's kinda terrifying, considering beyond Innoventions nearly everything in Future World houses a ride.
 

JBIRDTO

Active Member
There's more that's proposed demolition-wise than just Innoventions. I can't say more for now but that's what I mean about irreparable damage.

And that's without the whole IP / theme / story / dumb down argument.
This is interesting. From what I have read from Marni1971 most of the large existing pavilions are due for some sort of update or refurb in the next several years. looking at the map it is hard to picture what other demolition could happen in FW. Unless of course those other pavilion plans are very fluid.
 

hpyhnt 1000

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There's more that's proposed demolition-wise than just Innoventions. I can't say more for now but that's what I mean about irreparable damage.

And that's without the whole IP / theme / story / dumb down argument.
The only thing I could think of that would really be irreparable in terms of demolition would be SSE. With Siemens declining to renew its sponsorship, I wouldn't be surprised if it's now on the radar for a reimagining of that "more timeless, more Disney" nonsense. A lengthy dark ride experience filled with expensive animatronics, detailed sets, and aging infrastructure? Sound like any other rides we've recently lost?

Not to mention WDI has thought about this kind of scenario before; those Time Racers plans from Project Gemini are sitting on a shelf somewhere...
 

trainplane3

Well-Known Member
Imagination? WoL?
Hmm which pavilion will it be... I feel like I'm playing Future World Roulette.
Going take some guesses too:
- Odyssey
- Magic eye theater
- The two stores that sit under SSE
- Project Tomorrow/ending area for SSE

What's been assumed based off the concept art/other statements:
- All of Innoventions, but this was reduced down to "just half" as said by @marni1971 in another Epcot thread (as it stands, can still change though)
- WoL still lives on as festival space
- FoN gone
- Entrance overhaul/rocks are dead
 

Jenny72

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Of the people who make these decisions, are there people who argue to maintain the older feel of Epcot, its uniqueness? I assume the management people are aware that some fans are against some of these changes, but are there people in the upper levels who also feel the same way? If that's something an "insider" can answer? :)
 

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
Of the people who make these decisions, are there people who argue to maintain the older feel of Epcot, its uniqueness? I assume the management people are aware that some fans are against some of these changes, but are there people in the upper levels who also feel the same way? If that's something an "insider" can answer? :)
Yes, there are still fans of EPCOT Center within the decision making process.
 

EPICOT

Well-Known Member
Going take some guesses too:
- Odyssey
- Magic eye theater
- The two stores that sit under SSE
- Project Tomorrow/ending area for SSE

What's been assumed based off the concept art/other statements:
- All of Innoventions, but this was reduced down to "just half" as said by @marni1971 in another Epcot thread (as it stands, can still change though)
- WoL still lives on as festival space
- FoN gone
- Entrance overhaul/rocks are dead
None of those suggestions would fall into the "irreparable damage" category IMO. I'm thinking more like:

-Imagination pavilion torn down and replaced
-SSE gutted
-LwtL gutted
-Even worse rework of the Seas

TT, M:S, Soarin, and new Gaurdians are all safe so these seem like the only options.
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
From Martin's past posts, it didn't seem like any updates to LwTL and The Seas would be more than minimal. But plans could always change I suppose.

Test Track becoming CARS, SSE getting a gut job would be destructive ... I know some think leveling Innoventions buildings is on the same level but for me it's not make or break. So we'll just have to see what they do.
 

EPICOT

Well-Known Member
Yea I was more suggesting things we know are on the docket for change with the added presumption that things go south. SSE and Imagination are the more likely candidates for major destruction than LwtL or the Seas. But beyond those 4 and the "safe" attractions, I don't know what else they can destroy that already hasn't been destroyed.
 

Kman101

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Yea I was more suggesting things we know are the docket for change with the added presumption that things go south. SSE and Imagination are the more likely candidates for major destruction than LwtL or the Seas. But beyond those 4 and the "safe" attractions, I don't know what else they can destroy that already hasn't been destroyed.
Yeah, that's where I'm at. Not sure what's left, lol. I meant to add Imagination into that but that seems in flux. It could go either way there. So not sure what's left to ruin besides SSE.
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
Why can't they just preserve SSE as the only holdover to EC? It could be like a tribute ride that could talk to all the original ride themes.
That would be nice. I think people are simply going to worst case scenario with SSE we've so far gotten no indication that as it stands it's in any danger.
 

DC0703

Active Member
That would be nice. I think people are simply going to worst case scenario with SSE we've so far gotten no indication that as it stands it's in any danger.
It worries me that SSE might get gutted at some point, given that Disney seems to be slowly doing away with these types of rides. That said, Marni1971 said that something was being considered for demolition like they are with Innoventions buildings, and I can't see them taking down the geosphere, since it is the park's central landmark (though I suppose anything is possible these days).

My guess is that they are thinking of leveling WoL and moving the festival stuff elsewhere. Imagination would be another possibility, since that pavilion is full of unused and underused space.
 
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