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gsam4ever

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/kelly-sadler-cindy-mccain-hits-002412226.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index

Are you referring to this article? Who is the person who told the media that this was said by Kelly Sadler? If it WAS said that is sad and should not have been said by her but I see no respect from John McCain towards the president of the US..
Numerous sources have confirmed she mocked McCain when she said "He's dying anyway" referring to his opposition to
the nomination of Gina Haspel for CIA director. Truly low class but typical for this administration.
 

bhg469

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/kelly-sadler-cindy-mccain-hits-002412226.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index

Are you referring to this article? Who is the person who told the media that this was said by Kelly Sadler? If it WAS said that is sad and should not have been said by her but I see no respect from John McCain towards the president of the US..
I agree there should be proof before anyone throws stones but if true, its never ok. This is a classless thing to say even though I disagree with McCain especially how he has handled his work lately. His personal medical condition and his eventual passing is nothing to joke about.
 
With the uptick of random police calls on people of color for stupid stuff,

Yale student calls police on black grad student for sleeping:
Women calls police on 2 black men: bbqing
White woman calls police as black group of friends leave airbnb: https://abcnews.go.com/US/black-airbnb-guests-questioned-cops-plan-legal-action/story?id=55026358
black guys arrested for sitting at starbucks not ordering anything yet: https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html
White women calls campus security on two native american men touring college:https://indiancountrymedianetwork.c...colorado-campus-tour-gain-national-attention/
Black women get police called on them for golfing too slow:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/25/us/black-women-golfers-york.html

There is privilege because if any one of caucasian status did any of these things, the cops are never called. However, when its a POC, they deal with this stuff on a regular basis.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
With the uptick of random police calls on people of color for stupid stuff,

Yale student calls police on black grad student for sleeping:
Women calls police on 2 black men: bbqing
White woman calls police as black group of friends leave airbnb: https://abcnews.go.com/US/black-airbnb-guests-questioned-cops-plan-legal-action/story?id=55026358
black guys arrested for sitting at starbucks not ordering anything yet: https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html
White women calls campus security on two native american men touring college:https://indiancountrymedianetwork.c...colorado-campus-tour-gain-national-attention/
Black women get police called on them for golfing too slow:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/25/us/black-women-golfers-york.html

There is privilege because if any one of caucasian status did any of these things, the cops are never called. However, when its a POC, they deal with this stuff on a regular basis.

Call me cynical, but this is just such an almost-unbelievable coincidence-


...”said one of the women, Sandra Thompson, 50, a lawyer and the president of the York chapter of the N.A.A.C.P.”
 
North Korea is not happy with us saying one thing and doing another,

North Korea said Wednesday it is canceling high-level talks with South Korea planned for later in the day due to ongoing military exercises between the South and the United States.

The North's Korean Central News Agency said the Max Thunder drills between the South Korean and U.S. air forces are a rehearsal for invasion of the North and a provocation amid warming inter-Korean ties.

It also called into question whether next month's summit between North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and U.S. President Donald Trump can go ahead as planned.

"This exercise targeting us, which is being carried out across South Korea, is a flagrant challenge to the Panmunjom Declaration and an intentional military provocation running counter to the positive political development on the Korean Peninsula," the KCNA report said. "The United States will also have to undertake careful deliberations about the fate of the planned North Korea-U.S. summit in light of this provocative military ruckus jointly conducted with the South Korean authorities."

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2018/05/16/0200000000AEN20180516000551315.html

Originally part of the inter Korean agreement was that US Forces could stay in Korea and however due to this, someone overplayed their hand and now North Korea will use this as a negotiation tactic for removal of all US Forces on the peninsula.
 

Nubs70

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North Korea is not happy with us saying one thing and doing another,

North Korea said Wednesday it is canceling high-level talks with South Korea planned for later in the day due to ongoing military exercises between the South and the United States.

The North's Korean Central News Agency said the Max Thunder drills between the South Korean and U.S. air forces are a rehearsal for invasion of the North and a provocation amid warming inter-Korean ties.

It also called into question whether next month's summit between North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and U.S. President Donald Trump can go ahead as planned.

"This exercise targeting us, which is being carried out across South Korea, is a flagrant challenge to the Panmunjom Declaration and an intentional military provocation running counter to the positive political development on the Korean Peninsula," the KCNA report said. "The United States will also have to undertake careful deliberations about the fate of the planned North Korea-U.S. summit in light of this provocative military ruckus jointly conducted with the South Korean authorities."

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2018/05/16/0200000000AEN20180516000551315.html

Originally part of the inter Korean agreement was that US Forces could stay in Korea and however due to this, someone overplayed their hand and now North Korea will use this as a negotiation tactic for removal of all US Forces on the peninsula.
Who overplayed their hand?
 
Who overplayed their hand?
Arguably Trump.

The agreement made during the inter-Korean summit, billed the Panmunjom Declaration, called for formally ending the 1950-53 Korean War within the year and pursuing "complete denuclearization" of the Korean Peninsula while allowing US troops to remain.

Currently according to sources a joint exercise is being conducted on the peninsula, which goes against the spirit of that agreement.

Moon (south Korean president) stated when he was running during his term there would be the removal of US Forces in Korea. This will push the peace deals in NK favor to remove US troops.

Korea is a strategic location for US troops in deterring China and Russia which is why there is a DOD push to remain there.
 

Nubs70

Well-Known Member
Arguably Trump.

The agreement made during the inter-Korean summit, billed the Panmunjom Declaration, called for formally ending the 1950-53 Korean War within the year and pursuing "complete denuclearization" of the Korean Peninsula while allowing US troops to remain.

Currently according to sources a joint exercise is being conducted on the peninsula, which goes against the spirit of that agreement.

Moon (south Korean president) stated when he was running during his term there would be the removal of US Forces in Korea. This will push the peace deals in NK favor to remove US troops.

Korea is a strategic location for US troops in deterring China and Russia which is why there is a DOD push to remain there.
So Trump is at fault for conducting military training in a sovereign country that violates the spirit of a non binding declaration?

Seems to me that the one violating the spirit of a non binding declaration (If that is even possible), is President Moon.
 
So Trump is at fault for conducting military training in a sovereign country that violates the spirit of a non binding declaration?

Seems to me that the one violating the spirit of a non binding declaration (If that is even possible), is President Moon.
Its a combined exercise...meaning US and Korea. If it didn't matter, why is the Pentagon putting out a statement:

The Pentagon said Max Thunder was an annual exercise to maintain military readiness to defend South Korea. “The defensive nature of these combined exercises has been clear for many decades and has not changed,” said a Defense Department spokesman, Col. Rob Manning.
The State Department spokeswoman, Heather Nauert, said: “Kim Jong-un had said previously that he understands the need and the utility of the United States and the Republic of Korea continuing in its joint exercises. They are exercises that are legal. They’re planned well, well in advance.”
Right now, with North Korea inviting journalist and press from all over the world to see the dismantling of their nuclear site as well as bringing in tons of observers gives them the appearance of doing what they mean.

The president has stated the Kim Jong Un is a very honorable man multiple times and he treated prisoners excellent so therefore if that's the case shouldn't we be upholding our side as well.
 
The entire point (or at least the most important one) of these "peace talks" was getting North Korea to denuclearize. That was their good-faith offering to open up a channel for discussion.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...discuss-denuclearization-source-idUSKBN1HF0WQ

Now they are saying they have a "different definition" of what denuclearization means and want to keep their weapons after all. Sure didn't take very long for those goal posts to move...
 

Nubs70

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And now Korea is saying the summit can happen only if US says they can still have nukes...

https://www.apnews.com/f3055c87f50e4b979b6c27341b7101cb
All this is pre summit posturing. If KJU is genuinely serious about a summit, it will still happen. If he pulls out a poison pill and kills the summit, he was never serious to begin with. Dismantling of a destroyed nuke test site is a gesture but is rather meaningless.
 

Jimmy Thick

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With the uptick of random police calls on people of color for stupid stuff,

Yale student calls police on black grad student for sleeping:
Women calls police on 2 black men: bbqing
White woman calls police as black group of friends leave airbnb: https://abcnews.go.com/US/black-airbnb-guests-questioned-cops-plan-legal-action/story?id=55026358
black guys arrested for sitting at starbucks not ordering anything yet: https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html
White women calls campus security on two native american men touring college:https://indiancountrymedianetwork.c...colorado-campus-tour-gain-national-attention/
Black women get police called on them for golfing too slow:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/25/us/black-women-golfers-york.html

There is privilege because if any one of caucasian status did any of these things, the cops are never called. However, when its a POC, they deal with this stuff on a regular basis.
Because there is never two sides of the story....




Police get called usually for a reason, never forget this.

Support your local Policemen and Policewomen, true modern day heroes!
 
Support your local Policemen and Policewomen, true modern day heroes!
Never did I say cops were bad in my post you posted. I was posting the level of harassment minorities get from cops being called due to people feeling uncomfortable despite no crime or suggestion of crime coming. Memphis cops are starting to tell people they will arrest them for harassment for unnecessary calls on minorities.

Part of policing is community relations if the police are only focusing on appeasing one part of the community, you create the animosity and cultural outcomes we are facing today in America.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2018...vestor-racial-profiling-memphis-michael-hayes
 
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