General political chat

BuddyThomas

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For those of you on here decrying riots, it must be wonderful to come from a place where you have not faced total discrimination and injustice, and while I do not expect any of you to empathize with that the in any way, I’m just gonna leave this right here. I for one am thankful for the brave people who participated in this riot.
 

thenerdbaker

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I am baffled that every Americans is not outraged at three very big things that have happened this week.

1. Another example of police brutality against a person of color.
2. The president trying to censor the internet.
3. The president laying the groundwork for people to not believe the election results are accurate if he looses. (Washington has been using mail in ballots for years without issue)
 

DoubleJ21

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1. Another example of police brutality against a person of color.
I’m outraged, to the point that I couldn’t sleep last night.
2. The president trying to censor the internet.
It’s upsetting. I have faith that Trump will be blocked from making any unilateral changes of any significant consequence.
3. The president laying the groundwork for people to not believe the election results are accurate if he looses. (Washington has been using mail in ballots for years without issue)
In this case, I think the concerns are legitimate. Washington has a rigorous security system where ballot signatures are checked against signatures on file. And when they don’t match, voters are contacted. This system has taken years to get right. Don’t expect a national mail-in system to be anywhere near as secure as Washington’s if implemented in such a hurry. Prior to this situation, the view that mail-in voting was much less secure was bipartisan.
 

Grimley1968

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It’s a good thing those rioters in MN torched that guilty car in a parking lot I just saw on the news. -s

It seems an ineffective protest for any cause, especially one as important as the police brutality death Mr. Floyd suffered, to wantonly destroy innocent people’s property. Unless someone can show me proof of ownership of the car by one of those 4 cops, that was just mob violence for its own sake, and those involved had no interest in actual justice, but only in media attention and destruction. Same goes for looting stores in the area.

They should not be conflated with the good people engaged in peaceful protest about what happened to George Floyd.
 

Nubs70

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In Boston, opposition moved from fiery rhetoric to inflamed violence, fanned by a secret organization known as the Loyall Nine. The clandestine group of artisans and shopkeepers printed pamphlets and signs protesting the tax and incited the mob that ransacked Oliver’s house.
The resignation, however, didn’t douse the violent protests in Boston. On August 26, another mob attacked the home of Oliver’s brother-in-law—Lieutenant Governor Thomas Hutchinson. The rioters stripped the mansion, one of the finest in Boston, of its doors, furniture, paintings, silverware and even the slate from its roof.

Similar riots broke out in seaports from Portsmouth, New Hampshire, to Savannah, Georgia, and forced the resignations of crown-appointed officials. Mobs turned away ships arriving from Great Britain with stamp papers. The Loyall Nine expanded and became known as the Sons of Liberty.

Hmm, but I guess rioting isn’t american?
Did the Tea Party rioters haul off bales of tea like a 65" flat screen?
 

thenerdbaker

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It’s a good thing those rioters in MN torched that guilty car in a parking lot I just saw on the news. -s

It seems an ineffective protest for any cause, especially one as important as the police brutality death Mr. Floyd suffered, to wantonly destroy innocent people’s property. Unless someone can show me proof of ownership of the car by one of those 4 cops, that was just mob violence for its own sake, and those involved had no interest in actual justice, but only in media attention and destruction. Same goes for looting stores in the area.

They should not be conflated with the good people engaged in peaceful protest about what happened to George Floyd.
Yet again a lot of change has happened because a community has rioted and shown they are fed up with the treatment they are receiving. If not for the Stonewall riots would I a non straight person be able to live my life without being harassed? Prior to that the police brutalized non straights and that was a fire that sparked change. Lives can not be replaced. Things can. Again people have tried to be peaceful. Many peaceful protests have happened and again I will point to kneeling at a football game. It was still treated with outraged and nothing changed. I hope and pray no one would ever need to be violent or destroy property to make a point but at this point what else is the option. We have been having this conversation about police brutality for way to long without anything changing.
 

Quinnmac000

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Did the Tea Party rioters haul off bales of tea like a 65" flat screen?
Welll they went off with dudes silverware during the stamp act which literally was stated right there so......

the rioters stripped the mansion, one of the finest in Boston, of its doors, furniture, paintings, silverware and even the slate from its roof.
 

draybook

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Are you trying to refer to the armed black men that escorted someone into the building? The ones protecting people from the outraged people who wanted a haircut? That's definitely not the same at all.

This first one is EXACTLY THE SAME...


Now here are some other examples of us minorities enjoying the same right to bear arms as the white folks:





You asked for an example, I give you one exact copy and a few others that are semi related. You can extend your white guilt to us minorities, it doesn't mean that we have to blindly accept it.
 

thenerdbaker

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Umm...we didn't overthrow the British government...we threw them out of a new country that we established. There's a difference.
Was still against the law at that time. Sometimes you have to break some laws to get things done. No revolution was ever accomplished by following the law. The situation should have never gotten to the point of a riot but when you still have 4 cops involved with killing a man not in jail it tends to **** some people off. All of this would have been avoided if the 4 of them had been arrested.
 
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