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Disney Analyst

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As my fiancee is Canadian, I just find it interesting how you present your country on these forums when the narrative I hear from him is vastly different. There is a reason he is choosing to move to Florida with me and not have me move there
I mean, in the end everyone has different experiences that shape their world view. His experience in Canada can be vastly different then many Canadians, and the same for anyone in any country.
 

OneofThree

Well-Known Member
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Stupid international relations experts, stupid American public, and stupid pesky facts:

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I know you'd like to believe this reduces to a Trump problem. While his antics may contribute significantly, the media, pundits, Congressional whores, and the ignorant people with social media platforms are equally problematic.
 

BuddyThomas

Well-Known Member
I know you'd like to believe this reduces to a Trump problem. While his antics may contribute significantly, the media, pundits, Congressional whores, and the ignorant people with social media platforms are equally problematic.
If Trump wasn’t behaving like a psychopath, “the media, pundits, Congressional whores, and the ignorant people with social media platforms” would be talking about other stuff.
 

Willmark

Well-Known Member
@Willmark and some of the others have been just as offended over what most would call trivial or non existent things to.

I can’t recall every using the @ to directly call you out yet you seem to do it regularly. I’m truly impressed you’re such a fan, albeit a bit like a creeper.

Yet time and again you try to bait me, news flash as I’ve told another poster here who tried the same thing, it won’t work, but hey keep trying if you want

For nearly a year (or at least since the start of 2019) I’ve shown a fair amount of restraint and not sure why. I point out your behavior and you’ve walked back comments only to continue again at a later point. Like here once again. You must think you’re being edgy, you might even think you’re upsetting me somehow? Far from it, as I pointed out in another thread it amounts to low grade trolling nothing substantive.

So hence forth any response you make to me will be treated as a such and dismissed out of hand. I’m ready if you are and stubborn enough to go on for years calling it out, so good luck.

Have a great day.
 
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DoubleJ21

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Yes, Buddy. Amendments have been made to the Constitution. No amendments have been made that in any way alter the first 10 amendments, also known as the Bill of Rights. You said, I quote:
Are you aware that the Bill of Rights has already been amended multiple times?
 

The Mom

Moderator
Premium Member
Bill of Rights and later Amendments. To the Constitution. Not the Bill of Rights - they have never, nor can they be, amended. Amendments can be repealed and new amendments added, through a very clearly defined process.AFAIK, Prohibition is the only Amendment that has been repealed. It was quickly recognized that it was a "solution" to a problem that actually created more problems.
 

BuddyThomas

Well-Known Member
Bill of Rights and later Amendments. To the Constitution. Not the Bill of Rights - they have never, nor can they be, amended. Amendments can be repealed and new amendments added, through a very clearly defined process.AFAIK, Prohibition is the only Amendment that has been repealed. It was quickly recognized that it was a "solution" to a problem that actually created more problems.
Well! The more you know....thanks!
 

Willmark

Well-Known Member
So here's a Canadian question for American's... should the Bill of Rights be adjusted as time goes on and the future changes? Is there no room for slight adjustment anywhere? Is it set in stone, the values from way back when? Just curious, I am not advocating changing your countries values, but it also seems strange to not be willing to rewrite or adjust things as time goes on.
Sure there are two ways to amend the constitution. One way has been done multiple times previously, the other? Never.

1. An amendment can be repealed (only done with the 19th- ie Prohibition). All other amendments after the first ten (The Bill of Rights) have been new amendments independent of the first ten, adding new rights or superseding parts of amendments or the constitution itself.

2. The second way is less well known and has never happened: a Constitutional Convention (alternative called a National Convention). If I remember correctly based on the number of states currently, 34 are required to call a Constitution Convention with 38 the results would be binding across all 50. EDIT: 38 not 37; it’s all covered under Article V of the Constitution.

Since it’s never been done before there is some question as to what it would look like. AFAICR the Legislature of each state gets a single vote to call forth a Convention and same with voting on any matter put forth to be voted on.

Edit #2: the process is outlined here but again as to how it would look or work? Especially in today’s hyper partisan age?
 
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Willmark

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You’re going to have to let us know how things are in 2929. Anything like the conveyor belt at the end of Space Mountain or the last scene in Carousel of Progress? 😜
You’ll note I did correct the typo while simultaneously dealing with the trolling of Club Cools.
 
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Disney Analyst

Well-Known Member
Sure there are two ways to amend the constitution. One way has been done multiple times previously, the other? Never.

1. An amendment can be repealed (only done with the 19th- ie Prohibition). All other amendments after the first ten (The Bill of Rights) have been new amendments independent of the first ten, adding new rights or superseding parts of amendments or the constitution itself.

2. The second way is less well known and has never happened: a Constitutional Convention (alternative called a National Convention). If I remember correctly based on the number of states currently, 34 are required to call a Constitution Convention with 38 the results would be binding across all 50. EDIT: 38 not 37; it’s all covered under Article V of the Constitution.

Since it’s never been done before there is some question as to what it would look like. AFAICR the Legislature of each state gets a single vote to call forth a Convention and same with voting on any matter put forth to be voted on.

Edit #2: the process is outlined here but again as to how it would look or work? Especially in today’s hyper partisan age?
Thanks for responding seriously and with detail. Appreciate it. Interesting stuff you showcased.
 

Disney Analyst

Well-Known Member
No problem, happy to help.
And now that I've done further research myself, I understand why people say you cannot alter the bill of rights... which is considered the first 10 amendments. But theoretically you can add amendments that could nullify any amendment in the constitution? Like has happened with prohibition.
 
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