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The Mom

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As I find myself so often saying in this forum...who?
I also had no idea. But apparently he was fired because of harassment from people who disagree with him - not because he was causing a problem (except in a certain right wing group's opinion of what a comic should be), but because those reacting to him online were posting vulgarities, etc. Not right, IMO.
 

Tony Perkis

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I find it utterly unsurprising that you don't have the ability to understand this rather obvious reality.

One need look no further than the fight over the new DNC chair to get a preview of how it is going to go.
It’s not even clever parody.
 

Tony the Tigger

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I also had no idea. But apparently he was fired because of harassment from people who disagree with him - not because he was causing a problem (except in a certain right wing group's opinion of what a comic should be), but because those reacting to him online were posting vulgarities, etc. Not right, IMO.
Sounds like (only) Fox-esque news. We live in different worlds. I don't have the "give a hoots" to even google it. Still at work. Thanks for the summary!
 

The Mom

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AEfx

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Gitson Shiggles

There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
I don't think this is a right wing Fox-esque news site: https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2018/10/12/17969824/star-wars-marvel-chuck-wendig-fired-tweets. But, it really would fly under the radar of those who aren't interested in Marvel, etc.
This news—not necessarily the source— would appeal to those who have strong opinions on Rian Johnson, James Gunn, etc.

He was fired because he told half of the Star Wars/Marvel fanbase to go f-themselves.

And...because he is a pretty crappy writer to begin with, LOL.
Disney has shown, since they were courting 20th Century Fox, that they aren’t tolerating controversial employees. Cleaning house.
 

AEfx

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Disney has shown, since they were courting 20th Century Fox, that they aren’t tolerating controversial employees. Cleaning house.
Yeah, this was clearly the guy going over the line and not someone any corporation wants working for them in this current climate. I guess people are so desensitized to language and attacking huge amounts of people like that just because they agree with the sentiment that it makes it right. If we wouldn't tolerate someone saying that about one side, we shouldn't tolerate it from the other.

Some are trying to link it to what happened to Gunn but even though yes, he does have a history of this, the controversy is over brand new stuff, so the "oh these are old 'jokes' being dredged up" excuses don't fly here.
 

21stamps

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As someone who has also carried a child, I can't imagine forcing a woman to do so unless that is her choice. It's one thing to go through labor/c-section because you want a child badly enough to do so, but quite another to be forced to do so.

Obviously, my first choice would be for a woman who chooses to have sex to also choose to not get pregnant in the first place, by using effective BC correctly.
As someone who has also carried a child, I can't imagine forcing a woman to do so unless that is her choice. It's one thing to go through labor/c-section because you want a child badly enough to do so, but quite another to be forced to do so.

Obviously, my first choice would be for a woman who chooses to have sex to also choose to not get pregnant in the first place, by using effective BC correctly.
I would never force a woman to keep a baby. What I want, and what Pro Life means to me is these two main points-
EDUCATION on options when pregnant.
NO late term or partial abortions.

Both PP and NARAL- aka the mainstays/loudmouths/most influential of the Pro Choice movement- advocate for late term and partial. They hated when the law changed. They hated when Florida voted FOR parental consent.
Abortion is legal, but there is nothing that says women shouldn’t be educated of their choices, and there is definitely nothing that says it can be at any point.
 

21stamps

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It was vandalized, not attacked. There was literally no violence.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lohud.com/amp/1615104002

I don’t condone this by Antifa in the slightest, but stop spreading fake news.
🙄

Apparently Antifa attacked the NY GOP HQ. Hasn't been this much violence from the Democrats since the KKK.

This isn’t the first time. It was bad in ‘04- attacking/vandalizing campaign offices/vehicles/signs. The following campaigns weren’t as bad, but now here we are again.
It’s just worse now because of social media.

This is their playbook- Destroy.
 

AEfx

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It was vandalized, not attacked. There was literally no violence.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lohud.com/amp/1615104002

I don’t condone this by Antifa in the slightest, but stop spreading fake news.
Violence doesn't mean "directed at people" - it means "use of destructive physical force" against a person or thing.

Considering how much damage they did, starting with throwing bricks through windows - yes, I would call it violence.

It was actually bordering on terrorism, given that it was a planned violent act that they even left a note detailing that they did it specifically to intimidate them.
 

21stamps

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I’ve talked about the 2004 campaign often.. it’s the nastiest that I’ve ever seen.. personally. The only difference then was social media.


For those who want to use the “Trump Excuse” and claim you’re trying to save the world from him.

Let me take you on trip thru memory lane...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1271607/posts?page=3
If Only They Hated Terrorists This Much Dustin Hawkins November 4th,, 2004

After conceding the election to President Bush, John Kerry encouraged the American people to "begin the healing" and said it was time for us to come together and unite. It is not that easy, Johnny Boy.

Who are we suppose to unite with? The people who vandalized Republican headquarters around the nation? Those who sprayed bullets through GOP offices, hurled rocks and cinder blocks through windows, sprayed racist and anti-Bush graffiti on walls outside and broke laptops and other equipment inside? Or just unite with those large groups of unkempt hippies who attempted to overtake Republican headquarters around the nation?

What about the people who vandalized and egged cars that had Republican bumper stickers on them, or those who slashed the tires of dozens of GOP Campaign vehicles election morning? Is this what we are suppose to unite with?

Are we supposed to unite with the anti-American Michael Moore who thinks Americans are dumb and who has a disgustingly high following to prove his point? Or the Mainstream Media who spreads gossip faster than my Aunt Ester at a Sunday Brunch, or CBS who conveniently rolled out their "I Hate Bush" Book of the Month Club on national television in time for the election? Or just unite with MTV's national "Rock The Vote" campaign to oust Bush (because he will draft you to die), or the hysterical celebrities who line up to call Republicans racist, sexist, ageist, and "those people who, are like, you know, like evil." (And speaking of celebrities, thanks to Puffy Muffy Diddy Daddy we got to deal with the most moronic slogan ever: “Vote or Die.” Umm, okay.)

Two weeks before the election, a friend and the College Republican Chairman at Florida Atlantic University, Dana Roberts, had her car surrounded by Kerry supporters who then began spitting and throwing beer on her car, and then tacked it with Kerry stickers. They said that Roberts, who is black, had sided with the Ku Klux Klan. Other Republicans at the college faced similar fates. (Oh but wait! Time to unite!)

On Election Day, I joined hundreds of Bush supporters to gather for one last day long push in Boca Raton, Florida in the heart of Palm Beach County. We cheered, and we had a great time. We loved every minute of it. The people who we are supposed to unite with spit on some us, flicked off most of us and told all of us to F’ off and to F’ Bush. These people make France seem like a desirable ally.

We smiled, we waved, and we said thank you. As luck would have it, we would be smiling all through the night.
 

21stamps

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The difference between 2004 and Now is that the Democrat leaders were not calling for that type of behavior, they were calling for unity, they didn’t want to be associated with thug-crazy-madness.. Now- they embrace #resist. They freely announce that they do not want civility.

They have become everything they claim to be against... and they can’t use “Donald Trump” as an excuse. Too many of us haven’t lost our memories.
 

Gitson Shiggles

There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
Violence doesn't mean "directed at people" - it means "use of destructive physical force" against a person or thing.

Considering how much damage they did, starting with throwing bricks through windows - yes, I would call it violence.

It was actually bordering on terrorism, given that it was a planned violent act that they even left a note detailing that they did it specifically to intimidate them.
Protesters/agitators typically deny violence when acts aren’t committed against person(s). I’ve seen enough of it locally. Destruction of property is completely justified to them. There’s no point in trying to level with these types if you encounter them online.
 
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