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aw14

Well-Known Member
I just can’t imagine waking up and being triggered by Bill Nye of all people.

He played a role on children’s infotainment programming.

I’m guessing you don’t like him because he called Donald Trump a conspiracy theorist regarding his stance on climate change (that China caused it for economic purposes), but the fact that you get triggered over Bill Nye of all people is the height of ridiculousness.
Triggered? Ok...evidently you have a loose definition. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of using engineer as a science thought leader.
 

Gitson Shiggles

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Somewhere in Einstein’s notes, he makes a statement about a guy named Bill Nye, who would be full of crap in his later years. My German is a little rusty, though.
 

Tony Perkis

Well-Known Member
Triggered? Ok...evidently you have a loose definition. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of using engineer as a science thought leader.
He played a bit on two shows aimed toward younger people to introduce a base level understanding of common and agreed upon studies.

Anyone who puts him at the science thought leader.....that’s on them.

It’s not even close to being a thing worth getting overly upset about.
 

Wendy Pleakley

Well-Known Member
I just can’t imagine waking up and being triggered by Bill Nye of all people.

He played a role on children’s infotainment programming.

I’m guessing you don’t like him because he called Donald Trump a conspiracy theorist regarding his stance on climate change (that China caused it for economic purposes), but the fact that you get triggered over Bill Nye of all people is the height of ridiculousness.
Bill Nye promotes science. He promotes understanding based on facts and evidence.

It's not even remotely surprising the right doesn't like him.

When he debated Ken Ham on evolution vs. creationism, they were asked what would change their mind on the issues. Ham basically said nothing would change his viewpoint, while Nye answered with "evidence".
 

Club34

Well-Known Member
“What is "Far Right"
I hold the same beliefs I have held for a half century. Most of those I have validated through independent study. (It turns out, most of the stuff I learned from my parents and others in their generation, is true after all.)
So what defines me as "far right"?
Well, it is no secret that a LOT of folks in our culture have abandoned the teaching of their fathers. Many have rejected the lessons of history (If they ever bothered to study them in the first place). The natural result is a slide to the left. So, from their perspective, those of us who have not moved are "far right" IF we going to use the relative position of the left as the standard.
But what if we used the historical markers of the past generations (i.e. the founders of the republic) as the standard unit of measurement or baseline?
By THAT measure, I'm not "far right" at all. In fact, I would probably be considered "centrist" or "just right".
Navigation tip: When determining your position always measure from a fixed known point. IF you measure from a non-stationary point, you will NEVER know where you are.


I've rewritten a response to this about 4 times and none of them seem to fit. So maybe I will just respond with a question...what are people supposed to take from this? What are the takeaways for the "left" and the "right" from this piece?

My gut says this is total garbage and nothing but an eloquent semantics game about labels. And neither this person or most here on this forum for the past few pages has been willing to define their own terms for left and/or right to even invite the discussion...which is completely not surprising.
 

Gomer

Premium Member
Just to be sure....you went climate change from me ripping Nye? Right?

If we want to do this, I will find more that contradict. However the one I provided, had multiple scientists quotes within.

Your call....
Its a fact check on the person you were using to fact check Nye. You criticized me for using a source that wasn't squeaky clean. So I should expect the same in return.

I don't have the time or the desire to have another climate change debate on this forum. It goes nowhere. We've been down that road before. Neither of us are climate scientists, so we can do nothing but throw links at each other while we badmouth each other's sources. And our resident actual climate scientist has been wise enough not to pop back in this subforum in quite a while. So, it would be repetition of what we have already done with no real possibility of actually changing the other's mind.
 

aw14

Well-Known Member
Its a fact check on the person you were using to fact check Nye. You criticized me for using a source that wasn't squeaky clean. So I should expect the same in return.

I don't have the time or the desire to have another climate change debate on this forum. It goes nowhere. We've been down that road before. Neither of us are climate scientists, so we can do nothing but throw links at each other while we badmouth each other's sources. And our resident actual climate scientist has been wise enough not to pop back in this subforum in quite a while. So, it would be repetition of what we have already done with no real possibility of actually changing the other's mind.
Color me curious...who is our resident climate scientist? Honest question
 

Tony Perkis

Well-Known Member
Its a fact check on the person you were using to fact check Nye. You criticized me for using a source that wasn't squeaky clean. So I should expect the same in return.

I don't have the time or the desire to have another climate change debate on this forum. It goes nowhere. We've been down that road before. Neither of us are climate scientists, so we can do nothing but throw links at each other while we badmouth each other's sources. And our resident actual climate scientist has been wise enough not to pop back in this subforum in quite a while. So, it would be repetition of what we have already done with no real possibility of actually changing the other's mind.
I mean, how can you win this debate when his source is the Conservative Tribune?
 

aw14

Well-Known Member
“What is "Far Right"
I hold the same beliefs I have held for a half century. Most of those I have validated through independent study. (It turns out, most of the stuff I learned from my parents and others in their generation, is true after all.)
So what defines me as "far right"?
Well, it is no secret that a LOT of folks in our culture have abandoned the teaching of their fathers. Many have rejected the lessons of history (If they ever bothered to study them in the first place). The natural result is a slide to the left. So, from their perspective, those of us who have not moved are "far right" IF we going to use the relative position of the left as the standard.
But what if we used the historical markers of the past generations (i.e. the founders of the republic) as the standard unit of measurement or baseline?
By THAT measure, I'm not "far right" at all. In fact, I would probably be considered "centrist" or "just right".
Navigation tip: When determining your position always measure from a fixed known point. IF you measure from a non-stationary point, you will NEVER know where you are.


I've rewritten a response to this about 4 times and none of them seem to fit. So maybe I will just respond with a question...what are people supposed to take from this? What are the takeaways for the "left" and the "right" from this piece?

My gut says this is total garbage and nothing but an eloquent semantics game about labels. And neither this person or most here on this forum for the past few pages has been willing to define their own terms for left and/or right to even invite the discussion...which is completely not surprising.
Where I will disagree is that I do believe both sides here are quick to wrongfully label.

As an example, a poster here labeled me far right, for what seemed Like no other reason than we disagree.

It’s that behavior I believe the original post
On this was referring.
 
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