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Angel Ariel

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It probably has already been talked about with our prez denying death tolls in Puerto Rico and how he keeps claiming that it was a 'success'. But now he is arguing that Democrats had something to do with it.

Alright, let me preface by saying I didn't vote. I am not against either parties whatsoever. I am of the mindset that if a person runs for president and wants to look after our country, then by all means I am here to back you up.

But this guy...I don't think he is looking after us, but trying to just keep his own butt covered.
Ah,, ok...wasn’t sure if something new had happened :) thanks
 

gsam4ever

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It probably has already been talked about with our prez denying death tolls in Puerto Rico and how he keeps claiming that it was a 'success'. But now he is arguing that Democrats had something to do with it.

Alright, let me preface by saying I didn't vote. I am not against either parties whatsoever. I am of the mindset that if a person runs for president and wants to look after our country, then by all means I am here to back you up.

But this guy...I don't think he is looking after us, but trying to just keep his own butt covered.
Sounds about right.
 

Gomer

Well-Known Member
Nice appeal to authority. Can you tell me why they classify Naziism as right wing? I've asked this before but you always appeal to authority (a logical fallacy).
It is unfair and hyperbolic to call Naziism either right or left wing. Fascism, and in particular naziism, pulls on the worst parts of both sides of ideas to bastardize them into an oppressive belief system. The nazi's incorporated parts of socialism in an effort to capitalize on the socialist movements in Germany and traditional right wing beliefs like nationalism and corporatism to prop up something entirely different and altogether morally corrupt.

They used xenophobia (a tactic of the right) and class warfare (a tactic of the left) to evil ends because it was a regime built out of manipulation. Honestly to compare either side of the political spectrum to the European fascists of the 20th centrury is ignorant and insulting.
 

Gomer

Well-Known Member
I doubt Trump will ever admit to a mistake. To my knowledge he hasn't ever even apologized for what he said about John McCain in 2016.
This is a new low though. I'd hope someone advises him to backtrack. Denying the deaths of thousands of innocent people, regardless of the politicization of the relief efforts there, is akin to Holocaust deniers and 9/11 truthers. I usually try to restrain myself in hyperbolic accusations against Trump, but this was just disgusting. I don't even care if he believes it, a president should be better than to express those kinds of sentiments.
 

Jim S

Well-Known Member
Oh I'm sure Sanders has a lie, I mean something prepared, that will explain Trump's callousness.
I don't see it as being intentionally callous. Trump strongly believes he has to be on the offense against the press and it makes for some unforced errors. If he remains reticent they will destroy him.
 
It is unfair and hyperbolic to call Naziism either right or left wing. Fascism, and in particular naziism, pulls on the worst parts of both sides of ideas to bastardize them into an oppressive belief system. The nazi's incorporated parts of socialism in an effort to capitalize on the socialist movements in Germany and traditional right wing beliefs like nationalism and corporatism to prop up something entirely different and altogether morally corrupt.

They used xenophobia (a tactic of the right) and class warfare (a tactic of the left) to evil ends because it was a regime built out of manipulation. Honestly to compare either side of the political spectrum to the European fascists of the 20th centrury is ignorant and insulting.
To an extent I agree. Corporatism isn't exactly right wing. Neither is xenophobia.
 
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