News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Disstevefan1]

Well like so many said, there will be a new special district that replaces RCID. I am happy to know the taxpayers will not get stuck with Disney's bond debt.

It's said as a result of this new special district, it will slow the construction of new things in WDW.

Can they work any slower at WDW?

Whatever special district Universal Orlando works in; it doesn't seem to slow them down.

 

[Tonto]

Reedy Creek wouldn’t even be in the news much less being disputed/challenged if they hadn’t stepped in it

Interesting how many people support the second amendment. I do!!!
However, I also support the 1st. You can't have it both ways. Disney did nothing wrong regardless of whether you agree or disagree with their statement.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

The Problem is that Disney caters to many demographics. There opinion towards the bill should have never been made. Either way, they offend someone. This time it was the vast majority of people in Florida who do not want their children indoctrinated or influenced about sexuality at a young age at which they truly can't comprehend it. Why there are those who want to confuse children at that age stymies me. Disney took the side of the minority and doing so angered the majority who disagree. That is where they erred. Disney of all companies should have stayed out of it. They have too much to lose. It cost them their precious autonomy.

They have every right to make their opinions known without threat of GOVERNMENT retaliation. Boycott all you want, that's how the market works. Their gamble was solid: they're not playing to the "majority" of Floridians. Their customers are all over the world. The majority of the country is not falling for this nonsense, and their own employees were clamoring for action.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Well like so many said, there will be a new special district that replaces RCID. I am happy to know the taxpayers will not get stuck with Disney's bond debt.

It's said as a result of this new special district, it will slow the construction of new things in WDW.

Can they work any slower at WDW?

Whatever special district Universal Orlando works in; it doesn't seem to slow them down.

Things that don’t exist tend to not get in the way.

 

[wdwmagic]

I know the subject matter makes this difficult, but please try not to get into political bashing on both sides. thanks.

 

[monothingie]

I know the subject matter makes this difficult, but please try not to get into political bashing on both sides. thanks.

You'd have better luck trying to herd cats.

It's same arguments, just on a different day. It gets boring quick.

 

[fgmnt]

Can they work any slower at WDW?

Is this something you are wishing for?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You'd have better luck trying to herd cats.

It's same arguments, just on a different day. It gets boring quick.

I was out on the ranch this morning rounding up those “steers”

 

[Cliff]

As a huge, lifelong Disney fan, I DO like the idea of the state stepping in to rename RCID and take a higher oversite roll over Disney.

I also love the idea of Nelson Peltz getting himself into Disney's board as well. At this time in Disney's life,...this company is in desperate need of "outside" guidence and opinion. It very much needs opposing points of view to keep the company balanced and healthy.

Any and ALL organizations the size and power of Disney...need that healthy, tough love pushback.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

As a huge, lifelong Disney fan, I DO like the idea of the state stepping in to rename RCID and take a higher oversite roll over Disney.

I also love the idea of Nelson Peltz getting himself into Disney's board as well. At this time in Disney's life,...this company is in desperate need of "outside" guidence. It very much needs oposing points of view to keep the company balanced and healthy.

Any and ALL organizations the size and power of Disney...need that healthy, tough love pushback.

Or I have an idea:

Bob Iger needs to go for a collection of younger/more fresh/outside management…

It works like a charm…I swear

And a personal request: can the movie guy be a a Gen Xer who played with Star Wars toys and dressed as Indiana Jones in college for Halloween at least once?

 

[the_rich]

As a huge, lifelong Disney fan, I DO like the idea of the state stepping in to rename RCID and take a higher oversite roll over Disney.

I also love the idea of Nelson Peltz getting himself into Disney's board as well. At this time in Disney's life,...this company is in desperate need of "outside" guidence and opinion. It very much needs opposing points of view to keep the company balanced and healthy.

Any and ALL organizations the size and power of Disney...need that healthy, tough love pushback.

What Nelson peltz is doing is fine, whether I agree with it or not. But the state has no legal standing to do what they are doing. From the start they've made this about punishing them for their free speech. No one should ever like the idea of that happening.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What Nelson peltz is doing is fine, whether I agree with it or not. But the state has no legal standing to do what they are doing. From the start they've made this about punishing them for their free speech. No one should ever like the idea of that happening.

Yeah…apples and oranges there

 

[Ayla]

I am shocked at the number of people who are ok with authoritarianism and have no qualms about the government potentially taking over a private business in the United States of America.

 

[lazyboy97o]

As a huge, lifelong Disney fan, I DO like the idea of the state stepping in to rename RCID and take a higher oversite roll over Disney.

I also love the idea of Nelson Peltz getting himself into Disney's board as well. At this time in Disney's life,...this company is in desperate need of "outside" guidence and opinion. It very much needs opposing points of view to keep the company balanced and healthy.

Any and ALL organizations the size and power of Disney...need that healthy, tough love pushback.

Could you please provide some examples of how the District was in need of greater state oversight? In what areas was the District lacking in the application of different and opposing points of view? How does a board appointed by the state ensure this diversity of views on land management?

 

[mikejs78]

As a huge, lifelong Disney fan, I DO like the idea of the state stepping in to rename RCID and take a higher oversite roll over Disney.

I also love the idea of Nelson Peltz getting himself into Disney's board as well. At this time in Disney's life,...this company is in desperate need of "outside" guidence and opinion. It very much needs opposing points of view to keep the company balanced and healthy.

Any and ALL organizations the size and power of Disney...need that healthy, tough love pushback.

I don't disagree with your larger point, but these are the wrong avenues. The state getting involved because they didn't like Disney's speech is awful precedent, and could have disastrous effects. It also will put Disney at a distinct disadvantage to other companies because this board has the ability to tax them without any vote. Universals taxes are limited by the FL constitution and the general taxes of the county and city of Orlando.

As far as Peltz, he's the wrong guy to give fresh blood to Disney. All he cares about is shareholder returns, and he's friendly with Ike Perlmutter, who is a bigger cost cutter than Chapek was.

So yes to fresh blood, but let's make sure it's the right fresh blood. We need more creatives on the board, people who care about the Disney legacy and aren't going to try to nickel and dime. And no to a state takeover of an arrangement that has served both Disney and the people of Florida well, just because the governor didn't like what Disney said.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Is this something you are wishing for?

Who would wish for that?

My point is, under RCID they are slow. How much slower can they got things done?

Maybe under the new district, it will be so much trouble to get a permit that they will make it a point to get it done before the permit expires.

 

[mikejs78]

Who would wish for that?

My point is, under RCID they are slow. How much slower can they got things done?

Maybe under the new district, it will be so much trouble to get a permit that they will make it a point to get it done before the permit expires.

Or the permits will take years to get because the Governor doesn't like the latest movie.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Who would wish for that?

My point is, under RCID they are slow. How much slower can they got things done?

Maybe under the new district, it will be so much trouble to get a permit that they will make it a point to get it done before the permit expires.

That’s not how it works. Not to mention the serious safety issues that would arise from rushing construction.

 

[flynnibus]

Could you please provide some examples of how the District was in need of greater state oversight? In what areas was the District lacking in the application of different and opposing points of view? How does a board appointed by the state ensure this diversity of views on land management?

When people read the staff analysis... you can see how people can say there was room for 'updates' that would have been relevant for RCID. But the thing is... 'if it ain't broke...' - There is no pressing need to modernize this, no conflicts that were causing friction, etc. And of course it wasn't demonstrating leadership problems that incite a need to replace the oversight.

So the reality is somewhere in the middle. Where updates relevant for RCID? Sure. Were they NEEDED? No Is the legislation just modernizing those defects? NO, its going way beyond that.

You could also argue the new structure has some benefits with the ideas of planned reviews, etc so you could scope this down or review instead of the 'forever kingdom' the original charter setup. In isolation, these points all make sense... but the problem is none of this is in isolation and it's not being done for 'house cleaning' or to improve citizen's needs.

 

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