Only if the governor fails to sign or veto it within 7 days of being presented to him. That timeframe increases if the Legislature adjourns sine die during that 7 day period, then he has 15 days to sign or veto or the bill becomes law.
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Only if the governor fails to sign or veto it within 7 days of being presented to him. That timeframe increases if the Legislature adjourns sine die during that 7 day period, then he has 15 days to sign or veto or the bill becomes law.
Many posters have been ignoring the No Politics rule - which I understand is difficult in this situation. But it still stands and if a poster finds it impossible to discuss this topic in a general fashion without being overtly political then you may be prevented from participating.
flynnibus
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That wasn't the ruling in the case --at all--
The 4th Court of Appeals ruled the plantiffs didn't have standing in the matter. The court didn't rule on retaliation at all. The Texas Supreme Court decision to send it back to a lower court was based on the defense used. No court has found that any discrimination in this case was legal.
Texas SB 1978 is a game by the law makers to allow 3rd parties to tie up people with civil actions
That's not how this works... and that's not the claim the court judged on.
UNCgolf
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I think it's highly unlikely the current SCOTUS would overturn Citizens United. Alito, Thomas, and Roberts were all part of the majority in the original case, so they're almost certainly not going to change their position. That means two of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Coney Barrett would have to side with the three liberals (and that's assuming Kagan, Sotomayor, and Brown Jackson would all want to overturn it).
There are pretty long odds against that happening.
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GoofGoof
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I don’t disagree. What they should do and what they will do are not necessarily the same. However, I do think a point comes where maybe they stand on their own if they see the writing on the wall that the Governor is moving on to bigger and better things and they will be left with the mess. If that happens and if an Iger lead Disney comes to the table to negotiate maybe they listen anyway despite the Governor’s objections.
At a macro economic level any politician who supports a plan to intentionally economically damage one of the top employers in the state while the country faces a short to mid-term economic slow down (likely a recession) is not doing their job and is not doing what’s in the best interest of the people they represent. If (when?) a recession sets in we all know the travel industry is one of the first impacted. In a state that relies so heavily on tourism for their economy the focus should be on propping up the industry not breaking it down. Disney isn’t going anywhere but we have already seen that Disney has announced cost cutting so by taking away some economic benefits of RCID that means they will need even deeper cuts elsewhere. That means more layoffs and citizens of the state out of work at a time when the whole industry may be slowing down.
pdude81
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I think Desantis at this point has decided he's best off burying his head in the sand and then letting the courts throw this out. No way he wants to give up anything in this fight. He can say he was fighting for what he believes in, etc, etc. Also no reason for RCID or Disney to give up anything in this fight. Next move is for the state to show how this can happen without hurting taxpayers and still fit into the Florida and US Constitution.
flynnibus
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The next session of the legislature isn’t until march.
They aren not in a rush to announce things before they can actually be acted upon.
I doubt we see anything until closer to the session deadlines
JoeCamel
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Many news cycles between then and now, who knows what might happen.
lazyboy97o
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@lentesta was talking about the building codes and the District on The Disney Dish. The EPCOT Building Code is not drastically different and more restrictive than the Florida Building Code when it comes to hurricanes as Len unfortunately suggests.
The ultimate wind load requirements in the EPCOT Building Code are similar to what Orange County enforces. Exterior elements must have the same Florida Product Approval as in other areas. What really drives some Disney facilities to being more hardened is their size, which can push them from the typical Risk Category II into a Risk Category III.
The Florida Building Code has largely been a success and make buildings more resilient to hurricanes. It is though only about 20 years old, so there is still plenty out there built under the prior, less functional system of codes. Except certain types of structures, there are also not recurring building code inspections to see if facilities are properly maintained. Even new construction can be deficient based on a variety of factors.
Building codes are also minimum standards. Exceeding them is allowed. Disney as a company has their own accessibility standards that, where possible, exceed those required by the District / State and the federal government.
The ultimate wind load requirements in the EPCOT Building Code are similar to what Orange County enforces. Exterior elements must have the same Florida Product Approval as in other areas. What really drives some Disney facilities to being more hardened is their size, which can push them from the typical Risk Category II into a Risk Category III.
The Florida Building Code has largely been a success and make buildings more resilient to hurricanes. It is though only about 20 years old, so there is still plenty out there built under the prior, less functional system of codes. Except certain types of structures, there are also not recurring building code inspections to see if facilities are properly maintained. Even new construction can be deficient based on a variety of factors.
Building codes are also minimum standards. Exceeding them is allowed. Disney as a company has their own accessibility standards that, where possible, exceed those required by the District / State and the federal government.
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Correct, the statewide building code went into effect after Hurricane Andrew in 1992. Prior to that, it was a mish mash of county codes.
After Hurricane Dennis damaged Alligator Point, Carrabelle and St. George Island (leveled the sand dunes) in 2005, local codes for homes built along the Panhandle Gulf Coast were changed - pylons for homes needed to be bigger in diameter, taller and sunk deeper, large windows facing the Gulf had to have hurricane shutter, etc. Many homes on both Carrabelle Beach and St. George Island were either flooded or knocked off their pylons due to the storm surge.
After the Surfside collapse, a new law was passed requiring inspections every 10 years in certain types of property taller than 3 stories. Counties may also have their own codes for inspection regarding commercial and large scale residential properties, like apartments and hotels.
After Hurricane Dennis damaged Alligator Point, Carrabelle and St. George Island (leveled the sand dunes) in 2005, local codes for homes built along the Panhandle Gulf Coast were changed - pylons for homes needed to be bigger in diameter, taller and sunk deeper, large windows facing the Gulf had to have hurricane shutter, etc. Many homes on both Carrabelle Beach and St. George Island were either flooded or knocked off their pylons due to the storm surge.
After the Surfside collapse, a new law was passed requiring inspections every 10 years in certain types of property taller than 3 stories. Counties may also have their own codes for inspection regarding commercial and large scale residential properties, like apartments and hotels.
JohnD
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By Florida Statute, the Governor is required to provide his recommended budget one month prior to session. Florida's 2023 session begins Tuesday, March 7. One month would be no later than Tuesday, February 7. That doesn't mean he'll have commentary on the next phase of RCID. This topic and the budget are separate. But it is one possible timeframe we may hear something.
flynnibus
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There are published deadlines for submitting bills for the session too - just look at the state house website. This is why I mentioned ‘deadlines’ in the first place rather than the start of the session itself.
Governor usually issues his recommended budget shortly after the first of the year. We were always scrambling to make requested revisions in October/November.
Executive agencies had to get their budgets to the governor's office August/September. Then revisions may go on for a month or two. The governor's recommended budget is usually sent to the Legislature in January and publicly announced at that time.
You JUST had to be different. No one said that. The poster said "local floridians" pay income taxes.
Rich Brownn
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There's no STATE income tax
JoeCamel
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Wasn't stated......
DisneyCane
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There used to be an intangible property tax but it was eliminated 15 years ago. It could be construed as an income tax of sorts because higher income people would typically have more intangible property.
JohnD
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That's about right. The Governor has no later than one month prior to session to submit his recommended budget. Session always begins on the first Tuesday of the first Monday in March of odd years and January of even years. That's March 7 in 2023. So his recommended budget must be submitted no later than February 7.
Executive agencies submit their budgets by October 15 when Session begins in March and September 15 when Session begins in January.