News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[VelocityRaptor]

Idk man, it sure seems like he's acting completely in line with what the Republican party has become. Would your opinion be different if you didn't live in Orange county? Or do you only care because the consequences are now personally effecting you?

I personally care because of my love for Disney. Disney is something that I care immensely about and the same for my friends and family. If I still lived in NY I would still care about this. You say this is what the Republican Party has become. Can I come back and say that the Democratic Party has now shifted even further left towards socialism in the past few years? I’m not here to discuss politics. Both parties are shifting more extreme. But that shift is leaving more and more voters stuck in the middle. Us from both sides of the aisle who don’t believe is the extreme political spectrum are being left in the dust.

 

[Kamikaze]

and then they would face a lawsuit and lose in court

Disney might sue regardless. They should. Just tie it up in court for years until you get a more favorable set of people making the decisions.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It exempts WDW from oversight that the other Orlando parks are subject to.

“Other parks” are not operating a piece of property that is the size of a major city.

Universal is getting there, but even they aren’t really comparable to the WDW Resort in how they manage and operate the property.

 

[JohnD]

Again, I’m not a lawyer but I’ve got to think it’s a legal question to determine if the legislature can simply say that a provision that states a dissolution must be put to a vote locally simply does not apply in this situation. While this is being put through the legal system, RCID will continue.

That's a given. The bill has it dissolve June 30, 2023 if nothing is done. It's a matter now of what happens during the next year.

 

[peter11435]

A better analogy would be if Chick-fil-a didn't have to abide by state health inspections because they had a sweetheart deal with the legislature. Revoking that special privilege would be entirely legitimate.

The Reedy Creek Improvement District is corporate welfare. The Left used to believe in eliminating corporate welfare.

Except restaurants at WDW do have to abide by state health codes and inspections

 

[MurphyJoe]

Could that even happen? If Disney fights and wins wouldn't that undo everything?

No idea. I'd imagine it'd fall with how the debt is structured and Florida state law. Sounds more plausible than my idea of Disney buying a large tract of land in Georgia, then film their latest D+ reality game show, "Moving the Magic," where teams of the world's best industrial movers compete to relocate the Walt Disney World resort to its new location. I'm sure they could figure out a way to deduct the relocation production expenses from their taxes.

 

[the_rich]

I have three kids. Pretend I give each of them $20 per week as allowance. If one of my kids annoys me and I decide to eliminate her allowance, that's targeted punishment. But that isn't what's happening here.

What's happening here is that I currently give my favorite kid $40 per week as allowance just because I like her better than the others. I decide to revisit my allowance policy because it's unfair, so I cut the privileged kid to the same $20 that the other two kids get. This is merely leveling the playing field.

Yea its literally not the same thing.

 

[jericho]

It's now passed the Florida House and going to the Governor's desk to sign.

Disney self-government in peril after Florida House vote

 

[flynnibus]

Or their lawyers have said it doesn’t have a chance of withstanding a legal challenge so they are smartly ignoring the bait, the last thing they need is to be drug into political theater.

The lawyer tells you can't challenge a law that isn't yet a law.. so you wait until its actually actionable

 

[JohnD]

The lawyer tells you can't challenge a law that isn't yet a law.. so you wait until its actually actionable

Which, judging by the speed this is happening, could very well be today that the Governor signs it.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I'm a liberal and I support everyone's right to say whatever they want. But if public opinion turns on them or there is a boycott then they reap what they sow. But I couldn't be more against the government enacting consequences.

I am not a liberal and I totally agree with you too.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

A better analogy would be if Chick-fil-a didn't have to abide by state health inspections because they had a sweetheart deal with the legislature. Revoking that special privilege would be entirely legitimate.

The Reedy Creek Improvement District is corporate welfare.

Except that WDW isn't exempt from any health or safety standards, so your example doesn't work.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The District is not exempt from state regulations.

You can't have it both ways. In this thread, you have claimed:

1) Disney does not receive special benefits, whether financial or in the form of regulatory exemptions, AND;

2) Disney will be harmed by the dissolution of the RCID.

#1 and #2 can't both be true.

Except restaurants at WDW do have to abide by state health codes and inspections

Seven hells, it was an analogy applied to Chick-fil-a. Some very smart people on this board are pretending like they don't know how analogies work.

 

[flynnibus]

Interesting take. RCID dissolves so their bonds default and get passed to FL's taxpayers. Disney fights the action in court and wins due to comments made about the dissolution being retaliatory in nature. RCID reforms without the debt as it's been transferred due to the previous default.

This is why there is a timeline in the bill - its not immediate

 

[peter11435]

Disney might sue regardless. They should. Just tie it up in court for years until you get a more favorable set of people making the decisions.

They certainly will sue regarding the passing of this bill. Although it is more likely that it will be the district itself and other parties filing suit also.

My comment though was in reference to if the county singled them out for additional permit revenue

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Except that WDW isn't exempt from any health or safety standards, so your example doesn't work.

Which is it?

Either WDW doesn't get special treatment from RCID, or Disney will be harmed if Florida dissolves the RCID. It can't be both.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

The idea that “all Reps” or “all Dems” are the same really needs to stop, most of us fall into the gray middle and likely agree more often than we disagree despite voting for different parties.

Judging everyone by the actions of the extremes, and in turn viewing people as enemies, is what’s really dangerous to this country.

 

[jericho]

This makes absolutely no sense.

It makes perfect sense. Why are you okay with Universal having to abide by government regulations but not Disney?

 

[MisterPenguin]

As to the results of the dissolution of the RCID, it doesn't have to be all good or all bad. There can be pros and cons for both WDW and the counties.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Disney has taken losses at the hands of the government before. A notable instance is when, thanks to the governor of California, Disneyland couldn't open for over a year due to onerous COVID guidelines, despite an enormous lobbying effort by the company and allies.

Whether Disney comes out a winner or loser on this matter remains to be seen. There are too many variables, not the least of which is if it can withstand Constitutional muster.

Ultimately they would win this one.

Florida ham handed this (shocking)

It looks like they are voiding rules that they created for Disney after they took a stance against them on another issue.

Zero case was attempted to be made that thus benefited the residents of Florida. Why bother when it’s crap, right?

And longterm Florida would never win this…

You know what Disney could do? Pay everyone starting $25 an hour. Actually drive competition out of business when they always helped/benefited from it being there. That could lead to massive job losses/tax base issues.

Only two dogs in tourist Mecca have those kinda pockets