Florida Legislators Want To Remove The Reedy Creek Improvement District

[Disstevefan1]

We have no idea if he's actually worked on special districts. He's on Youtube; he can claim anything he wants.

Other Florida attorneys that practice in the area have said very different things than he does in that video. Also, some of his videos about other topics are misleading at best. He's not providing trustworthy information; he's acting in a partisan capacity to hopefully make money off Youtube videos.

Nobody really knows how this is going to play out yet, including Disney, RCID, Governor DeSantis, and the Florida state legislature.

I have to agree, lawyers say anything to support their opinion. Like all of us do on these discussion forums
We all know, nothing we say on these forums say will make any difference.
The “Legal Mindset” attorney had be hopeful.
I am now back to hopeless.
But wait, each of us are free to believe what uninformed information posted on these forums we choose, right?
I am back to hopeful

 

[peter11435]

I have to agree, lawyers say anything to support their opinion. Like all of us do on these discussion forums
We all know, nothing we say on these forums say will make any difference.
The “Legal Mindset” attorney had be hopeful.
I am now back to hopeless.
But wait, each of us are free to believe what uninformed information posted on these forums we choose, right?
I am back to hopeful

What exactly did he have you hopefully for?

 

[Disstevefan1]

What exactly did he have you hopefully for?

1. They will simply create a new complaint special district to replace RCID; a district similar to RCID, but a modern one, compliant to the Florida constitution like all the current special districts; Disney giving up some power.
2. Even if DCID is dissolved and there is no replacement, Disney is responsible to pay the bonds not taxpayers outside the physical borders of RCID.
   
   I do not care who replies to this post, I am not listening to you, LA, LA, LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU, LA, LA, LA

 

[peter11435]

1. They will simply create a new complaint special district to replace RCID; a district similar to RCID, but a modern one, compliant to the Florida constitution like all the current special districts; Disney giving up some power.
2. Even if DCID is dissolved and there is no replacement, Disney is responsible to pay the bonds not taxpayers outside the physical borders of RCID.
   
   I do not care who replies to this post, I am not listening to you, LA, LA, LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU, LA, LA, LA

1. If RCID as it existed was unconstitutional the governor would not have needed legislation passed to dissolve it. And if it was unconstitutional why did the Supreme Court in 1968 unanimously rule in the districts favor.

2. It’s not Disney’s debt.

 

[GoofGoof]

1. They will simply create a new complaint special district to replace RCID; a district similar to RCID, but a modern one, compliant to the Florida constitution like all the current special districts; Disney giving up some power.
2. Even if DCID is dissolved and there is no replacement, Disney is responsible to pay the bonds not taxpayers outside the physical borders of RCID.
   
   I do not care who replies to this post, I am not listening to you, LA, LA, LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU, LA, LA, LA

There would be no legal way for Disney to be responsible for paying the bonds directly. They either stay with RCID, possibly transfer to a newly created district or possibly they transfer to the counties. Dissolving a municipality cannot result in a single taxpayer having the burden of the municipality’s debt.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

There would be no legal way for Disney to be responsible for paying the bonds directly. They either stay with RCID, possibly transfer to a newly created district or possibly they transfer to the counties. Dissolving a municipality cannot result in a single taxpayer having the burden of the municipality’s debt.

I think the last point in the message you quoted was the most relevant.

People just won't hear if the debt ends up being transferred to Orange County or a new district. Maybe those directly effected by this and who opposed it will, but those who support it will hear an entirely different story about how DeSantis stuck it to Disney for being woke and Disney now doesn't get special treatment. This is why I have no faith there will be a best possible outcome in this case: the actual outcome in dollar and cents terms basically doesn't matter for those in charge of setting policy in Florida.

 

[Baloo62]

Look at the comments of ANY YouTube video concerning Disney's current state of affairs. They certainly don't ooze with support for the mouse. In fact, in nearly every instance, its pure loathing and disgust. This includes attitudes toward Genie+, over-crowding, absurd cutbacks (no trams at three parks), and the monetization of everything but oxygen. We went for my 30th trip last month and I can honestly say it was my least favorite ever. We spent more than we ever have and got much less accomplished. We are a family that literally experiences every single ride and 98% of the attractions during each visit. Despite paying $15 a day for that damnable Genie+, we were unable to do 8 of the major rides. As for the paid Lightning Lanes, they were never available. On the other hand, our two days at Universal were incredible. What a totally pain-free and simplistic Express Pass system. Those two days were the highlight of our trip. We all agreed that VelociCoaster (35 minute wait) and Hagrid's (55 minute wait) are the two best rides in Central Florida.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Look at the comments of ANY YouTube video concerning Disney's current state of affairs. They certainly don't ooze with support for the mouse. In fact, in nearly every instance, its pure loathing and disgust. This includes attitudes toward Genie+, over-crowding, absurd cutbacks (no trams at three parks), and the monetization of everything but oxygen. We went for my 30th trip last month and I can honestly say it was my least favorite ever. We spent more than we ever have and got much less accomplished. We are a family that literally experiences every single ride and 98% of the attractions during each visit. Despite paying $15 a day for that damnable Genie+, we were unable to do 8 of the major rides. As for the paid Lightning Lanes, they were never available. On the other hand, our two days at Universal were incredible. What a totally pain-free and simplistic Express Pass system. Those two days were the highlight of our trip. We all agreed that VelociCoaster (35 minute wait) and Hagrid's (55 minute wait) are the two best rides in Central Florida.

None of that is relevant. Plenty of people who think dissolving Reedy Creek is ridiculous criticize Disney.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

None of that is relevant. Plenty of people who think dissolving Reedy Creek is ridiculous criticize Disney.

 

[Baloo62]

None of that is relevant. Plenty of people who think dissolving Reedy Creek is ridiculous criticize Disney.

Criticizing and loathing are two very different things. I would argue the comments within a relatively small Disney fan site are irrelevant to the company as a whole.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Criticizing and loathing are two very different things. I would argue the comments within a relatively small Disney fan site are irrelevant to the company as a whole.

What is your stance here?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So what are the four media corps that deal in content, distribution and physical locations/products that might not like governments interfering with their business capabilities/autonomy???

Maybe…paramount?…time Warner?….Comcast?…and that other one…ummm…starts with a D I think??

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Look at it this way:

Who’s interests are shared?

So what are the four media corps that deal in content, distribution and physical locations/products that might not like governments interfering with their business capabilities/autonomy???

Maybe…paramount?…time Warner?….Comcast?…and that other one…ummm…starts with a D I think??

I have noticed that Uni likes to be a bit of a smart when it comes to Disney on Twitter, but, unless I've missed something, they've stayed quiet since all of this went down. It's almost like things suddenly got serious.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Criticizing and loathing are two very different things. I would argue the comments within a relatively small Disney fan site are irrelevant to the company as a whole.

Still not relevant. Reedy Creek’s existence isn’t something that should be based on whether or not some segment criticizes or loathes Disney.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I have noticed that Uni likes to be a bit of a smart *** when it comes to Disney on Twitter, but, unless I've missed something, they've stayed quiet since all of this went down. It's almost like things suddenly got serious.

NBC has covered it pro-rodent. It’s an easy choice for them this time…for about 1,000 reasons

 

[Chip Chipperson]

1. They will simply create a new complaint special district to replace RCID; a district similar to RCID, but a modern one, compliant to the Florida constitution like all the current special districts; Disney giving up some power.
2. Even if DCID is dissolved and there is no replacement, Disney is responsible to pay the bonds not taxpayers outside the physical borders of RCID.
   
   I do not care who replies to this post, I am not listening to you, LA, LA, LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU, LA, LA, LA

1. What power would/should Disney/RCID give up and why?

2. Businesses cannot be legally responsible for municipal debt.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

The problem with these kinds of polls is that when you ask something in the abstract people say one thing, but when you poll on a specific issue people say something completely different.

 

[castlecake2.0]

I have noticed that Uni likes to be a bit of a smart *** when it comes to Disney on Twitter, but, unless I've missed something, they've stayed quiet since all of this went down. It's almost like things suddenly got serious.

I’ve noticed that too, it’s almost like they don’t want people to notice they also donate to a lot of these politicians

 

[Disstevefan1]

Hey gang, I just thought of something cool. RCID will not be dissolved till July 1, 2023. That gives is over a year to argue meaninglessly, go off on countless tangents with a goal to fill more pages than the Coronavirus and Walt Disney World thread.

Ok, ok, I know we can never eclipse that page count since that thread will last forever since COVID with its variants will be with us forever, BUT I bet we can hit at least 3K pages. Who’s with me?

 

[Disstevefan1]

1. What power would/should Disney/RCID give up and why?

2. Businesses cannot be legally responsible for municipal debt.

Excuse me but I prefer to believe my uninformed unconfirmed information thank you.