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Flight of Passage, How Does it Rank at WDW in E-Tickets?
- Thread starter Chef Mickey
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Can we discuss the move to simulators for E-Tickets a little bit? I think there are 2 main reasons:
1) Cheaper - Although I'm not sure on the cost of FOP itself, it has to be cheaper than Everest for example.
2) Easier to change without scrapping.
I mean, what's the last E-Ticket that isn't a simulator? We've got to get back to real rides...
Look at Pirates in Shanghai. THAT is the direction we need to head if we are doing AR experiences. A physical ride within a simulation. I would like to see more of that here.
1) Cheaper - Although I'm not sure on the cost of FOP itself, it has to be cheaper than Everest for example.
2) Easier to change without scrapping.
I mean, what's the last E-Ticket that isn't a simulator? We've got to get back to real rides...
Look at Pirates in Shanghai. THAT is the direction we need to head if we are doing AR experiences. A physical ride within a simulation. I would like to see more of that here.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
You're also able to do more with a screen though. It would have been difficult to impossible to simulate flying through Pandora in FoP without one.
I'd expect FoP to be an order of magnitude more expensive than Everest.
Raineman
Well-Known Member
Do you think that we may have seen the last of the large scale, immersive, physical, AA-based dark rides, not just at Disney parks, but at any major theme park? It seemed like Disney was the last holdout, but it's obvious that they too are moving towards at least partially screen based simulator type attractions. Don't get me wrong, I like those kind of rides, but my favorite ride at WDW is HM-to me, possibly the best dark ride ever-but if HM was an attraction like Navi River Journey or even Pirates in Shanghai, it wouldn't have the same effect on me. Given the type of AAs that we are seeing Disney create, ie Shaman Of Songs, what Disney could do with an AA-based dark ride in 2017 could be pretty spectacular.
My top 5 E-Tickets (Subject to change once I ride FoP)
1. Star Tours
2. Splash
3. Everest
4. Haunted Mansion
5. Kilimanjaro Safaris
1. Star Tours
2. Splash
3. Everest
4. Haunted Mansion
5. Kilimanjaro Safaris
danyoung56
Well-Known Member
I rode several times when the yeti was working, and I don't remember any slowdown at all.
God, I hope not. I also think Haunted Mansion is the best ride at WDW. I would be incredibly sad to see all new e-tickets turn into virtual experiences, although those are cool.
I do think Pirates Shanghai is a great example of combining both virtual and physical experiences. I would like FOP to have incorporated a moving track in addition to the experience today. I still think it's a good e-ticket, incredible the first time you rid, but still think it should be even better.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
That's interesting that you'd say it's even more expensive. I really have no basis for thinking it's a cheaper alternative, but I'd argue the increased cost for FOP if it indeed does cost more is only due to having duplicate screens. I'd like to see the cost of one theater versus Everest...as of course, Everest doesn't have multiple tracks.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
There are a significant amount of things to account for to run a ride like FOP. Every detail needs some mechanism to control it, so it would likely need a small datacenter of very fast equipment and storage to process the effects for every rider, then there's the costs associated with building the CGI world that you're flying in, the music score, and also the rest of the facility and mechanics that completes it. I'd guess that it cost over $150m just to build that one ride.
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dreamscometrue
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Nope. It moved through that section at the exact same speed it does now.
Haymarket2008
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I think it is the best simulator ever created. Is it the best attraction in WDW? ........ not to me.
I prefer physical experiences. Also everyone GROSSLY exaggerated the hype on the queue. Nevertheless, this attraction is a home run.
I prefer physical experiences. Also everyone GROSSLY exaggerated the hype on the queue. Nevertheless, this attraction is a home run.
It just seems so much less ambitious than something like Tower of Terror because you're practically using a computer to create the experience. I still think one room cost significantly less than a the entire Tower of Terror project in today's dollars or even the $100m supposedly spent on Everest, which is probably based on the cost in 2002ish timeframe when it started.
DisneyRoy
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Tower of Terror $140 million 1994 dollars adjusted to 2017 dollars = $230 million. I would bet that Flight of Passage cost roughly the same as that. Tech doesn't come cheap. And it's built in a mountain. That's not cheap either.
Im not sure I see it. Flight of Passage is definitely a lot of tech, but unless a lot of th cost is in the development of the story, I don't believe the execution of the screen and ride vehicles are similarly priced to the physical cost associated with something like the Everest track, Yeti, mountain, artists, plants,etc.
I've seen stats the entire land was around $500M and I would doubt half was in FOP.
freediverdude
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Just think how much monorail they could have built for that 500 million.
Glasgow
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38 feet?
Polydweller
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My opinion, based on riding it multiple times when the Yeti was working, I'd say you are over stating. The story is still finished by meeting the Yeti.