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Skibum1970

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I think we had Blondie's One Way Or Another....Which I liked the best of the songs I have heard on it...

Agreed. Second favorite was "September". It should be noted that my wife and I are Blondie fans and so we were biased. I just hope that Encanto turns out to be a good ride that is as enjoyable as Guardians. I know that it will be very different but they need a ride where you exit with a smile and not disappointment. Of course, a ride won't satisfy everyone.
 

DCLcruiser

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Guardians is a very good ride. The coaster is fun, the queue is immersive and the pre-show is great. Would I prefer it in another park? Maybe. Would I prefer it to have more nods to UoE and be about energy? Yes. But, I am not complaining about it existing. Please give us more of that level of attraction.
 

Andrew25

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There should be animatronics in Guardians. Itโ€™s criminal that there arenโ€™t. Sure, maybe the coaster is fun, but for that price, there should have been some more dimensional sets than just a moon.
In the pre-show? Sure, definitely should be one. But it's very difficult to justify an animatronic on a coaster you speed by in less than 3 seconds unless it has very minimal movement.
 

UNCgolf

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In the pre-show? Sure, definitely should be one. But it's very difficult to justify an animatronic on a coaster you speed by in less than 3 seconds unless it has very minimal movement.

Yeah, I think the issue with the on-ride experience in CR (from a theme/story perspective, that is) isn't a lack of AAs -- it's that the use of projections/screens is bad.

They make sense for an indoor coaster, but the execution in CR is awful.
 
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Bocabear

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In the pre-show there could be an AA or two.... even if it is just Rocket.... And then atr the end of the coaster portion on your way to the station, rather than just a projection of the Guardians thanking you, it might be cool if there were actually a guardian or two physically there... It would flesh out the experience...Like when they finally added the Tres Amigo to the Where Is Donald attraction in EPCOT...that little bit of animatronic at the end completely changed the ride... It felt complete....
 

wedenterprises

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Guardians is a very good ride. The coaster is fun, the queue is immersive and the pre-show is great. Would I prefer it in another park? Maybe. Would I prefer it to have more nods to UoE and be about energy? Yes. But, I am not complaining about it existing. Please give us more of that level of attraction.
The only thing I would change about Guardians is making it more obvious that it's a World Showcase style pavilion. To me, it's the most clever thing about the attraction because it's the only reason it makes sense in Epcot.

On a side note, I would have preferred if Tron and Guardians swapped places.
 

RSoxNo1

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Yes it would include site work, and thats not exactly something extravagant.

The price tag on Guardians was way too high for what we got. If the Encanto/Indy stuff turns out like that...yikes.

Agreed. Sometimes we fixate on cost a bit more than we should. They can obviously afford it. Guardians is probably my familyโ€™s favorite WDW addition from the last 5 years and theyโ€™ve opened quite a few rides in that interval.
We can't deny the price point is ridiculous, but it's also the best ride in EPCOT in the eyes of most people. It's not perfect (missing the AAs that were promised as an example), but it's pretty great. I actually believe that once it's taken off virtual queue, EPCOT becomes a better park.

It would be interesting to see a dissection of that $450 million. The warehouse building structure itself is easily 8 figures. The coaster is probably $50 mil+. I have no idea what the site prep work would have cost, but that's probably one of the places where the money just dissolves.
 

dreamfinding

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I like Guardians. It has snuck its way into my top 3 coasters list (between WDW, DL and USF). Iโ€™ve ridden 26 times (and kept track of songs). I really wish we had a Rocket AA somewhere, but the ride does fine without it.

Do I think it was built in the wrong park? Yes.
Can I enjoy it while realizing that fact? Yes.
 

dreamfinding

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We can't deny the price point is ridiculous, but it's also the best ride in EPCOT in the eyes of most people. It's not perfect (missing the AAs that were promised as an example), but it's pretty great. I actually believe that once it's taken off virtual queue, EPCOT becomes a better park.
Part of me wonders what is going to happen to CR once TT closes for refurb.
 

RSoxNo1

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I like Guardians. It has sneaked its way into my top 3 coasters list (between WDW, DL and USF). Iโ€™ve ridden 26 times (and kept track of songs). I really wish we had a Rocket AA somewhere, but the ride does fine without it.

Do I think it was built in the wrong park? Yes.
Can I enjoy it while realizing that fact? Yes.
 

Bocabear

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Guardians needs more of a "Xandar Pavilion" after the coaster...not just a walk back into the hot sun. There should be a better shop and covered area outside the exit doors for waiting for your party etc...Would be a great place to do a few Xandar plants,and perhaps a Xandarian snack kiosk... Complete the experience as a pavilion would...not just the premise at the entrance and then forget about it after the coaster.... And the actual merch for the attraction is kind of dismal...and not avilable anywhere else including Creations and World Of Disney...
 

dreamfinding

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Guardians needs more of a "Xandar Pavilion" after the coaster...not just a walk back into the hot sun. There should be a better shop and covered area outside the exit doors for waiting for your party etc...Would be a great place to do a few Xandar plants,and perhaps a Xandarian snack kiosk... Complete the experience as a pavilion would...not just the premise at the entrance and then forget about it after the coaster.... And the actual merch for the attraction is kind of dismal...and not avilable anywhere else including Creations and World Of Disney...
My only issue: the courtyard area doesnโ€™t seem large enough for a food cart. I agree about the vegetation- think about all of the different plants in Pandora, an alien world.

The merch issue has been ongoing for years. Most of the parks/attractions used to carry their merchandise only. Tell me why I could buy a figment pin in DAK back in January
 

Professortango1

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In the pre-show? Sure, definitely should be one. But it's very difficult to justify an animatronic on a coaster you speed by in less than 3 seconds unless it has very minimal movement.
There's plenty of opportunities for practical effects at the start and end of the attraction, but the simple fact is that Disney took a pre-existing concept (Big Bang Coaster) and slapped on Guardians IP. The ride is fun, but the theme and concept is incredibly forced and lazy. I hate Mission BO, but that feels more like a Guardians attraction and its a cheap retheme.
 

C33Mom

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I like Guardians. It has snuck its way into my top 3 coasters list (between WDW, DL and USF). Iโ€™ve ridden 26 times (and kept track of songs). I really wish we had a Rocket AA somewhere, but the ride does fine without it.

Do I think it was built in the wrong park? Yes.
Can I enjoy it while realizing that fact? Yes.
We are DLR locals (who usually have APs) and we fly to WDW 2-3 times a year just for Cosmic Rewind (we used to go every 18-36 months). Yes, we go to 3-4 parks while weโ€™re out there but we go (and purchased APs and pay for deluxe resorts) because our whole family really enjoys Cosmic Rewindโ€”Tron and EE are fun but I wouldnโ€™t fly to Florida for them. I donโ€™t really think CR โ€œbelongsโ€ in EPCOT (and wish it at least did a little more education about actual energy concepts and not just cosmic generators)โ€”but it is a LOT of fun and draws coaster enthusiasts with its unique experience. It took me years to stop being mad about Maelstrom, but Iโ€™ve accepted EPCOT will keep changing away from its original vision. They already have a Rocket animatronic for Mission Breakout so Iโ€™m surprised they didnโ€™t put one somewhere within the CR attraction (donโ€™t know what the cost breakdown is between original design imagineering and actual construction).

Incidentally, I am not sure weโ€™ll keep visiting EPCOT as often once Cosmic Rewind goes off VQ. I expect that line to be bananas (presumably worse than TT) and the current paid FP system only allows you to buy your way out of it once per day.
 

UNCgolf

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How is it awful? Looked fine to me.

Because the story is stupid (and often completely incomprehensible)?

It could be completely removed and it would not affect anyone's enjoyment of the ride. That's why I call it an execution failure.

Doesn't mean the ride itself is bad (it obviously isn't) but it's certainly not one of Imagineering's better efforts from a theme/story perspective. The ride would actually be improved if it was just stars, nebulae, etc. without the Celestial etc.
 
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UNCgolf

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Guardians needs more of a "Xandar Pavilion" after the coaster...not just a walk back into the hot sun. There should be a better shop and covered area outside the exit doors for waiting for your party etc...Would be a great place to do a few Xandar plants,and perhaps a Xandarian snack kiosk... Complete the experience as a pavilion would...not just the premise at the entrance and then forget about it after the coaster.... And the actual merch for the attraction is kind of dismal...and not avilable anywhere else including Creations and World Of Disney...

To be fair, Energy was never really a full pavilion the way Land, Seas, World of Motion, Imagination, and Wonders of Life were. It was always just the attraction -- although the attraction was 45 minutes long.
 

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