Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

Miss Bella

Miss Bella

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VaderTron said:
On the resort side of things, I recently got a 'flash sale' promo email from a DVC rental service I've subscribed to in the past. They usually say something along the lines of, "We have these couple of rooms available (minor discount). Act fast! These will be gone soon!" And usually they are gone within an hour or so.

This time the promo reads this way: "THERE ARE A TON OF RESORTS AVAILABLE".Then they list a number or DVC resorts and say either "most dates in sep and oct" or "every night in (name of month)". After listing several locations they self-truncate the list with "the list goes on...."

That's how empty the resorts are.

Not sure how long it's sustainable to operate under such conditions.
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There still not offering discounts though. Unless I missed something which is entirely possible I’ve haven’t been paying attention, but aren’t they just offering iAP rates to Sept 30.

I wouldn’t pay rack rate if there was no Covid and the economy was roaring.
 
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legwand77

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carolina_yankee

carolina_yankee

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VaderTron said:
On the resort side of things, I recently got a 'flash sale' promo email from a DVC rental service I've subscribed to in the past. They usually say something along the lines of, "We have these couple of rooms available (minor discount). Act fast! These will be gone soon!" And usually they are gone within an hour or so.

This time the promo reads this way: "THERE ARE A TON OF RESORTS AVAILABLE".Then they list a number or DVC resorts and say either "most dates in sep and oct" or "every night in (name of month)". After listing several locations they self-truncate the list with "the list goes on...."

That's how empty the resorts are.

Not sure how long it's sustainable to operate under such conditions.
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That’s not a problem for Disney. That’s a problem for DVC owners. Disney is still getting their money off the membership dues, which cover the operation of those resorts. DVC owners who want to rent out their points before they die (the points, not the owners) are up against a wall.

It should also be noted that brokers aren’t dropping the rental price and it’s now significantly riskier to book a DVC reservation with uncertain refund policies. I’m also reading reports elsewhere that the rental market is collapsing with owners getting $10 - $12 a point now when they were getting $18 and above on their own without going through a broker. I personally would only rent a DVC reservation I knew was 100% refundable.

Whether or not the cash resorts are doing the business Disney wants at this time, I don’t know. They don’t seem to be interested in offering discounts to encourage people, though.
 
VaderTron

VaderTron

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LUVMCO said:
There still not offering discounts though. Unless I missed something which is entirely possible I’ve haven’t been paying attention, but aren’t they just offering iAP rates to Sept 30.

I wouldn’t pay rack rate if there was no Covid and the economy was roaring.
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The DVC resellers are. 20% across the board and deeper discounts on specific DVC resorts on select nights. Old Key West had $165 a night.
 
peter11435

peter11435

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carolina_yankee said:
Whether or not the cash resorts are doing the business Disney wants at this time, I don’t know. They don’t seem to be interested in offering discounts to encourage people, though.
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Most of their cash resorts are still closed. In fact very very few cash rooms are actually open. And they are offering discounts for Florida residents and cast members
 
VaderTron

VaderTron

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carolina_yankee said:
That’s not a problem for Disney. That’s a problem for DVC owners. Disney is still getting their money off the membership dues, which cover the operation of those resorts. DVC owners who want to rent out their points before they die (the points, not the owners) are up against a wall.

It should also be noted that brokers aren’t dropping the rental price and it’s now significantly riskier to book a DVC reservation with uncertain refund policies. I’m also reading reports elsewhere that the rental market is collapsing with owners getting $10 - $12 a point now when they were getting $18 and above on their own without going through a broker. I personally would only rent a DVC reservation I knew was 100% refundable.

Whether or not the cash resorts are doing the business Disney wants at this time, I don’t know. They don’t seem to be interested in offering discounts to encourage people, though.
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My point isn't that Disney is losing money on those DVC rooms. I understand the money goes to the owners. My point is that rooms aren't even filling up at a steep discount. That doesn't bode well for the regular hotel rooms Disney does operate and charge customers directly to use.

Additionally, this is not a good look for DVC in the long run. That does have a direct effect on Disney's bottom line.
 
carolina_yankee

carolina_yankee

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VaderTron said:
My point isn't that Disney is losing money on those DVC rooms. I understand the money goes to the owners. My point is that rooms aren't even filling up at a steep discount. That doesn't bode well for the regular hotel rooms Disney does operate and charge customers directly to use.

Additionally, this is not a good look for DVC in the long run. That does have a direct effect on Disney's bottom line.
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Oh, it’s definitely a challenging time, no doubt. People aren’t traveling now. But the DVC rental market isn’t a good comparison given the lack of flexibility for last minute cancellations. I know some brokers have worked up various schemes and many owners want to do right by the renters, but it’s very much a risk to rent if you don’t know if you can travel.

Surely affecting Disney and and DVC are the travel quarantines. Again, hard to commit dollars if you don’t know if you can even travel if you want to travel.

Given how DVC surveys everything to death, I can’t imagine they have any data that suggested to them their resorts would book well this fall.
 
Miss Bella

Miss Bella

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VaderTron said:
My point isn't that Disney is losing money on those DVC rooms. I understand the money goes to the owners. My point is that rooms aren't even filling up at a steep discount. That doesn't bode well for the regular hotel rooms Disney does operate and charge customers directly to use.

Additionally, this is not a good look for DVC in the long run. That does have a direct effect on Disney's bottom line.
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I know from another board that most people would rather have two beds. I’ve never booked a villa because of the bed situation. My son has no choice this time. He has to make due on a sofa bed. Like I said in my previous post I don’t think a lot of people would know where to find that discount. I wouldn’t and I’ve been several times and frequent more than one disney board.
 
EricsBiscuit

EricsBiscuit

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