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News Disneyland to give Snow White’s Scary Adventures dark ride a major facelift in 2020

CaptinEO

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It's funny- on here I analyze every aspect of the park and its operations to a ridiculous extent. We discuss stuff on here no normal person discusses.

But when I'm at Disneyland? I'll notice the maintenance issues and frumpy CM's that give bad service. I'll groan when Mickey's Mix Magic starts playing on Main Street. But I don't sit there with my friend group complaining about all the stuff I see that's wrong except for the occasional comment or two. I'm there to have a good time- and the enjoyment of being there outweighs the burned out lights and broken animatronics.
I mean I'd say thats how we all are.

We go to have fun and have a good time and escape the real world. I know I am. I'm critical of how they operate but when I'm at a themepark I'm just happy.
 

180º

Well-Known Member
I was just making conversation.
Were you also the person in front of me in the IJA single rider line who brought their own flashlight for the express purpose to shine it up at the Eeyore parking sign and engage me in conversation about it? And then proceeded to skip the rest of the wait by following the regular line up the stairs? (True, bizarre story)
 

fctiger

Well-Known Member
It's funny- on here I analyze every aspect of the park and its operations to a ridiculous extent. We discuss stuff on here no normal person discusses.

But when I'm at Disneyland? I'll notice the maintenance issues and frumpy CM's that give bad service. I'll groan when Mickey's Mix Magic starts playing on Main Street. But I don't sit there with my friend group complaining about all the stuff I see that's wrong except for the occasional comment or two. I'm there to have a good time- and the enjoyment of being there outweighs the burned out lights and broken animatronics.

That's pretty much everyone I know who goes. No one in my family complains about the park outside if it's too busy or a FP they wanted gone. That's basically the extend of it. It's usually me who goes into the nerdy nit picking complaints. And every time I do, I feel a 'please save it dad' type of eye roll from the family lol. Unless it's something BIG, then they go to have a good time. I'm not there to kill the vibe...I come here for that. 🤣
 

Dead2009

Horror Movie Guru
Cancel Cultural is being made out to be a boogieman... to drive fear and outrage for political gain. Cancel culture as described in the news, doesn't exist.

Change itself, does exist and always has. Like I said before, they changed the name of the Indian War Canoes in 1971 and it wasn't labeled cancel culture then.

>1971
>2021

It's definitely a different time and place. Had the name stayed the same and they were calling for change now, you would see how people who weren't around then, are offended today.
 

egg

Well-Known Member
People weren't actually any less offended by things in 1971 than they are in 2021.

The two big differences are that the world was far less connected and society was far less receptive to certain opinions, so people weren't able to express themselves. If someone was offended by something in 1971, they probably decided it was better for their career, relationships, friendships, etc. to keep quiet, and even if they were bold enough to take on society, their voice probably wouldn't leave the neighborhood because they didn't have instant worldwide communication through the internet. There's a lot more I want to say but I don't want this to get moved to the politics and social issues section.

It's a positive development that in 2021 we are able to have conversations about this stuff.
 
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raven24

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People weren't actually any less offended by things in 1971 than they are in 2021.

The two big differences are that the world was far less connected and society was far less receptive to certain opinions, so people weren't able to express themselves. If someone was offended by something in 1971, they probably decided it was better for their career, relationships, friendships, etc. to keep quiet, and even if they were bold enough to take on society, their voice probably wouldn't leave the neighborhood because they didn't have instant worldwide communication through the internet. There's a lot more I want to say but I don't want this to get moved to the politics and social issues section.

It's a positive development that in 2021 we are able to have conversations about this stuff.
The Politics sub-forum was removed a while ago.

Feel free to say what you wanted. This thread has been swimming in politics for pages and pages now. :)
 

el_super

Well-Known Member
>1971
>2021

It's definitely a different time and place. Had the name stayed the same and they were calling for change now, you would see how people who weren't around then, are offended today.

Yeah.... But the opposite is true as well I think: People who complain the most about changes occurring now, are willing to accept the same changes occurring in the past, because they weren't impacted by them. They didn't see them, and in some cases are just completely ignorant to them happening. There's a strange form of exceptionalism going on too. The cancel culture of the 1970s can be dismissed as unimportant and mild compared to the tragedy of cancel culture today. Falling into the trap of thinking that the changes of today are somehow exceptional to any other changes that have occurred.

From a Disneyland perspective, it makes it really hard to determine how much is valid criticism of a change versus a complaint that something has to change at all.

I'm glad they changed Snow White. The ride was getting tired. Content wise, I don't think the end result was really a net positive, but I can still appreciate the effort that went into it, and the understanding that sometimes things just need to change and move on.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
I’m not sure how I feel about Enchanted Wish. I don’t dislike the facade as much as I thought I would. Don’t like Snow Whites jail cell bedroom at all. Whoever is doing Happys voice on the safety spiel is awful. Where does Disney find their voice actors for the parks lately?

The first half of the ride is pretty much all improvements. The best of them being in the mine and dungeon. Some really neat effects they added in the dungeon especially. That out of place breaking mirror effect has go to go. I appreciate the effort to move the cliff scene/ witch demise even if the original was staged much better. Then the whole thing just seems to end really fast. Really love the scene of Snow White being kissed. The projections and whatever else they are doing there are stellar. I like the music from the movie being added. Not thrilled with the last scene with the midget prince. That forced perspective just doesn’t work there.

For whatever reason the ride actually feels shorter now. Maybe because it’s not as cohesive of an experience and the ending feels rushed? Overall, I think there is just more to see in Enchanted Wish. I’m not sure which version I like more. I liked and disliked them both for various reasons. I think I give the nod to Enchanted Wish but I reserve the right to change my opinion after riding a few more times. I’ll take the newer more visually impressive/ interesting version with the music over the older more cohesive/ monotone version.
 

waltography

Well-Known Member
The first half of the ride is pretty much all improvements. The best of them being in the mine and dungeon. Some really neat effects they added in the dungeon especially. That out of place breaking mirror effect has go to go. I appreciate the effort to move the cliff scene/ witch demise even if the original was staged much better. Then the whole thing just seems to end really fast. Really love the scene of Snow White being kissed. The projections and whatever else they are doing there are stellar. I like the music from the movie being added. Not thrilled with the last scene with the midget prince. That forced perspective just doesn’t work there.
Agree with most of your points; the mine has never looked better, and the dungeon and the new projection mapping by the cauldron there are all great touches. It would've been so much better if instead of the mirror they had Snow's hand let go of the apple and roll it towards the path of the ride vehicle - less is more there. I don't think it ended too fast; I'm a sucker for the classic choral endings so this was right up my alley, and the lighting for the kiss was drop dead gorgeous.
 

George Lucas on a Bench

Well-Known Member
The reality is they crammed Snow White Apple Bite TV Screen, Dwarfs on Mountain with Witch and the Nonconsensual Kiss all in to one room and the ending is just a bunch of crap all at once. The original version with the witch in the boat, the woods, the holographic apple and the mountain lightning bolt bit all flowed. The new version does not at all.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
The reality is they crammed Snow White Apple Bite TV Screen, Dwarfs on Mountain with Witch and the Nonconsensual Kiss all in to one room and the ending is just a bunch of crap all at once. The original version with the witch in the boat, the woods, the holographic apple and the mountain lightning bolt bit all flowed. The new version does not at all.

Don’t disagree and yet I feel that that there is more there for me to enjoy in that rushed mess.
 

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