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News Disney world attendance down 80%??
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PuertoRekinSam
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I saw a similar article yesterday where they said something along the lines of “Disney’s Attendance is down 80%, while Universal’s is only down 64%”!
now what’s funny about this is they comparing percentages and not numbers.
If I look at Magic Kingdom and Universal Orlando 2019 attendance as reported in Wikipedia (I know... not a great source).
MK did annual attendance of 20,963,000 and USO did 10,922,000.
looking at those numbers, 20% of the MK’s attendance is still higher than 36% of USO. (4,192,600 vs. 3,941,920). Which means the MK would be seeing roughly 720 more people each day than USO is. Of course this is assuming every day is normally equal attendance(which I know it’s not), and that MK and USO have the same surge days and attendance ebbs and flows (Which I know they don’t).
In this new world historic attendance means nothing. New metrics need to be made for the current state... at least for the foreseeable future
now what’s funny about this is they comparing percentages and not numbers.
If I look at Magic Kingdom and Universal Orlando 2019 attendance as reported in Wikipedia (I know... not a great source).
MK did annual attendance of 20,963,000 and USO did 10,922,000.
looking at those numbers, 20% of the MK’s attendance is still higher than 36% of USO. (4,192,600 vs. 3,941,920). Which means the MK would be seeing roughly 720 more people each day than USO is. Of course this is assuming every day is normally equal attendance(which I know it’s not), and that MK and USO have the same surge days and attendance ebbs and flows (Which I know they don’t).
In this new world historic attendance means nothing. New metrics need to be made for the current state... at least for the foreseeable future
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
One of the fatalities in the US from this covid crisis is belief in the simple truth...
"El Gran Magnifico"
Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
The other - is the lack of common sense. There's a trifecta coming - I can feel it (God I hope I'm wrong - But it is 3's).
We cancelled our trip in September-12 people three generations- with 8 days of tickets and 9 nights at OKW resort. At a price tag of over 20 grand we cancelled when they decided to close the parks as early as 6:00 and 7:00.
No value in that-we are willing to live with the problems associated with Covid and for the most part have done a few things different because of Covid such as wear our mask, social distance, and wash our hands a lot. We are not going to cower in the corner and hyperventilate.
I trust Disney in their safety measures but closing down the parks at such ridiculous hours was a no brainer for for my entire family. We cancelled.
No value in that-we are willing to live with the problems associated with Covid and for the most part have done a few things different because of Covid such as wear our mask, social distance, and wash our hands a lot. We are not going to cower in the corner and hyperventilate.
I trust Disney in their safety measures but closing down the parks at such ridiculous hours was a no brainer for for my entire family. We cancelled.
"El Gran Magnifico"
Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
They wont - I fought that battle. In the end I was Custer. I'll expain -
I'm going next week. As a family we've had had AP's for the past 8 years. You can't roll the passes. You can't time them. The date is what the date is. Guess who's pass expired on 3/14? And because they gave me a 12 month get 2 months free on the previous renewal (Mine technically expired in Jan '20) - and because of that I don't get grandfathered into the extension.
So now, everybody in my family has a pass except me. I can't renew, I cant buy a new one. I'm relegated to this new "Flex Pass" (which s*cks).
I'm lobbying for them to go to the parks without me, because a single (or multi-day) pass is just throwing away money.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
All our talk on these myriad of threads tends to be “health focused”...
...but we aren’t even addressing that the valuation is completely off.
It is.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Translation: they’re both completely wrecked and have written off this year on the business calendar...
...the question is: how long will that last beyond this year? What adjustments will be made? How will they change pricing and product to “protect themselves” in the future?
Mainahman
Well-Known Member
Oh I know. Must be the captain talking
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Being able to lift safety measures is also a very fluid and complex situation.
"El Gran Magnifico"
Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
You'd probably win "the internet" if you could answer that. And then you could lay claim to a certain block (or square footage) of NYC. I'll back your bet. There'll be two of us..........A writer, poet, soldier, politician, courtier, spy and explorer...........and me - I'll be the one at the bar.
JoeCamel
Well-Known Member
Day by day as the numbers come in. Lots of plans for what happens at what level but the numbers will drive the decisions.
This is such a numbers driven corporation they cannot do anything else and still claim a measured response.
It is all true.
Turns out not budging with incentives, making your loyal base feel like they are getting much less value and even the general public knowing it can really hurt you. Not to mention your lifestylers and CP base are going to be non existent.
Disney did a few things right safety wise, but so many things wrong that it negated the success.
Universal won this one the best they could tenfold.
Even Sea World played their cards the best they could once they could reopen under their already hard previous budget issues.
Turns out not budging with incentives, making your loyal base feel like they are getting much less value and even the general public knowing it can really hurt you. Not to mention your lifestylers and CP base are going to be non existent.
Disney did a few things right safety wise, but so many things wrong that it negated the success.
Universal won this one the best they could tenfold.
Even Sea World played their cards the best they could once they could reopen under their already hard previous budget issues.
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"El Gran Magnifico"
Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
Pandemic hasn't changed the calculation (formula). The numbers are just different. I'll be there next week. My numbers changed too. With the NBA, and the restrictions....I opted for Gaylord (No problem with the Park Res system). I'd like to come back "on-property" for the "Holidays" - If not....Hilton Orlando has a mighty fine pool area (with a lazy river - and decent pool/bar food).
networkpro
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- Yes
Are they doing ICE this year ?
"El Gran Magnifico"
Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
Honestly, I haven't even checked. Did it about 4 years ago.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
They said Epcot and DAK outperform MK and DHS. That’s the exact opposite of the truth. Anyone with eyes knows attendance is down. If they keep opening more resorts, that will be a clear indication that attendance is rising. If they push off reopening further, obviously attendance will have not increased by as much as they currently anticipate.
These articles are ridiculous. The company sends out signals without releasing absolute attendance numbers.
You sure?
WDW is offering FL resident discounts and allowing cast and their family entry.